Since this has long been a bugbear of mine, I figured that a few observations would not go amiss. I hasten to add that the following does not apply to all road users obviously! but a bloody big majority from my observations.
Do not give way to a vehicle already in the roundabout unless you are less than 30ft away. (The thinking here is if you think that there is just enough room go for it!)
A orange traffic light does not mean be prepared to stop, it really means plant the right foot. ( a green light means the same)
When the speed limit is 60kph its ok to do 70 plus. (if the limit is 100kph then anywhere between 100 and 120 is ok.)
When stopped at traffic lights one should always creep forward in order to be the first away when they change. ( a bit of wheel spin all the better!)
Constantly change lanes, weaving in and out all the way down the road the fact that you are "cutting in and causing hard braking" is not your problem.
When stopped at lights if the vehicle in front does not move the second that the lights change a long blast of the horn is the way to go.
All possible overtaking options should be considered when you find yourself behind a truck or caravan, even if they endanger others lives. Remember there is not a moment to be lost.
If you see a bus with indicators on to pull away from a stop it is your bounden duty not to allow him to do so. You must never get caught behind a bus it could cost you at least a minute.
As an old feller once told me quote "a lot of drivers these days have not got time to s--t" Add the presence of ice, mary jane, and all the other combinations of drugs out there and our roads are truly becoming a very dangerous place to be. For me the joy I once had in driving is fast becoming a chore and the roads here in Melbourne are almost at choke point now.
Shut up Phil, hitch the van up and go bush!!!!!
Joda said
07:06 PM Jul 25, 2019
Could not agree more, now retired 3yrs. so travel more on weekdays & see all & more of this behaviour, the amount of female drivers (young & old)I see breaking the speed limit frightens Me, car makers can delete speedos, no one uses them, or indicators, they scream past Me when there is a red light plainly in front of them, W.T.F. end of rant.
Craig1 said
08:47 PM Jul 25, 2019
Yep and pass you on the right to pull across in front to take left hand exit which is only 50 metres away
Olive Oil said
05:43 AM Jul 26, 2019
Whenever we spend time away in the bush & then go back to the city it's a ''wake up call'' as far as driving is concerned.
It feels a bit like being on a slot car racing track with all of the above things happening.
I don't agree with it being just VIC drivers though, it occurs in every capital city & large regional town in AUS.
If you think its bad here try driving in the UK, we found it much worse.
-- Edited by Olive Oil on Friday 26th of July 2019 05:45:38 AM
Mariner30 said
10:48 PM Jul 26, 2019
I drove trucks for more than 30 yrs and was based in central Vic
When driving in melb l'd be on the different major freeways every day and then return to the sticks
Imho the worst, most aggro, most impatient inconsiderate car drivers were those on the Monash freeway by far...in both directions.
Santa said
03:23 PM Jul 27, 2019
Agree with all that you say Magnarc, another one of my pet hates, drivers now seem to think the use of indicators is optional.
Eaglemax said
05:28 PM Jul 27, 2019
I'm near the Hume Highway near Euroa. Use the highway all the time. I can honestly say that those cars that cruise at around 120-130kph are NSW registered. Also those cars that do not slow down to 40kph when passing emergency vehicles are also NSW. Maybe they don't get the advertising about it like we do. And AFL is better than rugby lol
Joda said
06:24 PM Jul 27, 2019
Your a brave man eaglemax, A.F.L. better than that other game, to be honest I dont notice the number plates, I' m too busy keeping out of their way., nice place Euroa, always stop on the way up the hume for a break, pity grandmas little cafe over the road from the school closed down, always had brekky there,
John.
Baz421 said
08:31 PM Jul 27, 2019
Very surprised how many cars in Melb run red lights. In Adelaide you see one go through often,,, but in Melb 3 or 4 were going through every day, not on orange on red.
No cops on road,, so free for all
Peter_n_Margaret said
06:00 PM Jul 28, 2019
Whine, whine, whine. I hope all you perfect people fell better now.
Cheers,
Peter
Santa said
06:21 PM Jul 28, 2019
Not whining.
When it comes to road safety I think it's reasonable to expect adherence to road rules and respect for the safety of others.
Craig1 said
08:09 PM Jul 28, 2019
There is beginning to be a strong push from assorted do -gooders to tax the average whine out of existance. What will we do then
Joda said
09:34 PM Jul 28, 2019
I dont think I,m perfect by any means but I can drive better than these teararse clowns any day of the week, you putting yourself in the other camp are You P&M?
Olive Oil said
05:05 AM Jul 29, 2019
There's nothing wrong with an open discussion on road safety.
Magnarc said
08:28 AM Jul 29, 2019
Joda, don't worry about P&M being in the other camp. With all those batteries, water and solar I doubt that the old Oka would barely get away from the traffic lights let alone run them! vbg.
StewG said
03:28 PM Jul 29, 2019
I agree with Olive Oil. As a regular driver in Melbourne, Sydney and Gold Coast, the bad behaviour that we experience is IMHO due to the increasing congestion of the cities and the frustration that it engenders. The few seconds delay turns into minutes of lost opportunities... Fortunately I never exhibit this bad behaviour, it is always someone else(?).
blaze said
04:13 PM Jul 29, 2019
I find that if I smile and give a friendly nod to bad drivers it doesn't cause me as much bother as when I spent my time looking for others faults. Every driver makes errors, most aren't deliberate.
cheers
blaze
Peter_n_Margaret said
10:48 AM Aug 1, 2019
blaze wrote:
I find that if I smile and give a friendly nod to bad drivers it doesn't cause me as much bother as when I spent my time looking for others faults. Every driver makes errors, most aren't deliberate. cheers blaze
Yep.
This "open discussion" is just a finger pointing exercise. Worse than that, any opposing view is immediately attacked. Maybe if we spent as much time looking at our own performances as we do blaming others, we would all be better off?
Cheers,
Peter
Santa said
11:12 AM Aug 1, 2019
Peter_n_Margaret wrote:
Yep.
This "open discussion" is just a finger pointing exercise. Worse than that, any opposing view is immediately attacked. Maybe if we spent as much time looking at our own performances as we do blaming others, we would all be better off?
Cheers,
Peter
Gotta smile at the irony after this opening gambit.
"Whine, whine, whine. I hope all you perfect people fell better now. "
blaze said
01:59 PM Aug 1, 2019
I don't and never confess to being perfect, far from it but I do believe the attitude of the person wronged has a calming or negative reaction. It does me no good looking for wrongs and errors every where
cheers
blaze
ps just seems on the forum and in life generally people want to have a crack at someone else's expense
Joda said
08:52 PM Aug 1, 2019
I do look at my own performance o righteous one, whats wrong with pointing the finger at MORONS anyway, drove linehaul Melbourne, sydney , brisbane so feel somewhat qualified to pass an OPINION on current driver behaviour, dodgem car free for all if you ask Me, yes, everyone makes errors driving, but they are not the same things We see happening regularly on the roads these days..
Greg 1 said
10:54 PM Aug 2, 2019
I don't think this is contained to just Vic drivers either. They drive amongst us everywhere.
Baz421 said
08:44 PM Aug 7, 2019
Well well for the 2nd time on this trip a Vic driver sat behind us,, too close,,, didn't want to pass,,,
another van came up behind him and he closed right up behind us,, other van then passed the 2 vans at once and following motor home did the same.
No chance for me to do anything.
I then pulled over and let him go,,,,, he was reluctant to pass even then
Since this has long been a bugbear of mine, I figured that a few observations would not go amiss. I hasten to add that the following does not apply to all road users obviously! but a bloody big majority from my observations.
Do not give way to a vehicle already in the roundabout unless you are less than 30ft away. (The thinking here is if you think that there is just enough room go for it!)
A orange traffic light does not mean be prepared to stop, it really means plant the right foot. ( a green light means the same)
When the speed limit is 60kph its ok to do 70 plus. (if the limit is 100kph then anywhere between 100 and 120 is ok.)
When stopped at traffic lights one should always creep forward in order to be the first away when they change. ( a bit of wheel spin all the better!)
Constantly change lanes, weaving in and out all the way down the road the fact that you are "cutting in and causing hard braking" is not your problem.
When stopped at lights if the vehicle in front does not move the second that the lights change a long blast of the horn is the way to go.
All possible overtaking options should be considered when you find yourself behind a truck or caravan, even if they endanger others lives. Remember there is not a moment to be lost.
If you see a bus with indicators on to pull away from a stop it is your bounden duty not to allow him to do so. You must never get caught behind a bus it could cost you at least a minute.
As an old feller once told me quote "a lot of drivers these days have not got time to s--t" Add the presence of ice, mary jane, and all the other combinations of drugs out there and our roads are truly becoming a very dangerous place to be. For me the joy I once had in driving is fast becoming a chore and the roads here in Melbourne are almost at choke point now.
Shut up Phil, hitch the van up and go bush!!!!!
Whenever we spend time away in the bush & then go back to the city it's a ''wake up call'' as far as driving is concerned.
It feels a bit like being on a slot car racing track with all of the above things happening.
I don't agree with it being just VIC drivers though, it occurs in every capital city & large regional town in AUS.
If you think its bad here try driving in the UK, we found it much worse.
-- Edited by Olive Oil on Friday 26th of July 2019 05:45:38 AM
Agree with all that you say Magnarc, another one of my pet hates, drivers now seem to think the use of indicators is optional.
Very surprised how many cars in Melb run red lights. In Adelaide you see one go through often,,, but in Melb 3 or 4 were going through every day, not on orange on red.
No cops on road,, so free for all
Whine, whine, whine. I hope all you perfect people fell better now.
Cheers,
Peter
Not whining.
When it comes to road safety I think it's reasonable to expect adherence to road rules and respect for the safety of others.
Joda, don't worry about P&M being in the other camp. With all those batteries, water and solar I doubt that the old Oka would barely get away from the traffic lights let alone run them! vbg.
cheers
blaze
Yep.
This "open discussion" is just a finger pointing exercise. Worse than that, any opposing view is immediately attacked. Maybe if we spent as much time looking at our own performances as we do blaming others, we would all be better off?
Cheers,
Peter
Gotta smile at the irony after this opening gambit.
"Whine, whine, whine. I hope all you perfect people fell better now. "
cheers
blaze
ps just seems on the forum and in life generally people want to have a crack at someone else's expense
Well well for the 2nd time on this trip a Vic driver sat behind us,, too close,,, didn't want to pass,,,
another van came up behind him and he closed right up behind us,, other van then passed the 2 vans at once and following motor home did the same.
No chance for me to do anything.
I then pulled over and let him go,,,,, he was reluctant to pass even then
I am lost for words.