attached poll showing results thus far , recently bought bf's not thru experience but because of various recommendations from other vanners , time will tell , fitted Falkens on the van as cheaper than bf.
Interesting data, Doesn't Matter, what is the poll showing?
What people have fitted;
what people are happy with;
what tyre has long life;
what tyres are cheapest.
Cheers - John
Whenarewethere said
10:15 AM Apr 25, 2019
The best all terrain tyre upgrade has been acoustic insulation!
rockylizard said
10:19 AM Apr 25, 2019
Whenarewethere wrote:
The best all terrain tyre upgrade has been acoustic insulation!
Gday...
do you mean that they are trying to reduce the road noise produced by all terrain tyres?
Cheers - John
-- Edited by rockylizard on Thursday 25th of April 2019 10:19:30 AM
yobarr said
10:19 AM Apr 25, 2019
mezza56 wrote:
attached poll showing results thus far , recently bought bf's not thru experience but because of various recommendations from other vanners , time will tell , fitted Falkens on the van as cheaper than bf.
If you are serious about tyres,you will fit BFG.When I was looking at replacing my Bridgestone 697s I did lots of research,and visited many tyre shops.General stacked up,as did Toyo,but when two different tyre shops that each sold both BFG and 697s,both said BFG every time......BFG and Bridgestone 697s are like chalk and cheese. I queried their advice,and they both cited stronger construction as the main reason for their advice.And at $280 each,theyre a bargain.If you can not afford the tyres,you cannot afford the car.Cheers
Hewy54 said
01:31 PM Apr 25, 2019
yobarr wrote:
mezza56 wrote:
attached poll showing results thus far , recently bought bf's not thru experience but because of various recommendations from other vanners , time will tell , fitted Falkens on the van as cheaper than bf.
If you are serious about tyres,you will fit BFG.When I was looking at replacing my Bridgestone 697s I did lots of research,and visited many tyre shops.General stacked up,as did Toyo,but when two different tyre shops that each sold both BFG and 697s,both said BFG every time......BFG and Bridgestone 697s are like chalk and cheese. I queried their advice,and they both cited stronger construction as the main reason for their advice.And at $280 each,theyre a bargain.If you can not afford the tyres,you cannot afford the car.Cheers
Yes I am serious about tyres and yes I fitted BFG. The first set was fine, the second set chipped badly.
Lots of brands of tyres have their advantages, and if you were to go to a third tyre shop you may have found a different opinion.
I have been closely involved in a tyre business for the last 15 years (as a silent partner), and the recommendation from those in the know at the moment is Mickey Thompson Deegan 38.
HandyWalter said
04:12 PM Apr 25, 2019
I have been closely involved in a tyre business for the last 15 years (as a silent partner), and the recommendation from those in the know at the moment is Mickey Thompson Deegan 38.
Mickey T Deegan 38 are essentially a mud tyre. Mud tyres are known to be very noisy and not long wearing. I guess it depends where you are driving most but if its mainly bitumen with a bit of dirt road, I think there are better suited tyres. Then again for every brand there are detracters and supporters. ATM I have BFG but I have also heard good reports on D697s. Also it may well depend what car they are on, as some tyres also seem to suit some brands/models better.
-- Edited by HandyWalter on Thursday 25th of April 2019 04:16:18 PM
Mutley said
04:41 PM Apr 25, 2019
I'm thinking that just to be posting here on this site, most people would be very experienced in driving, thus buying/using tyres?
Everyone will have a different opinion on what's a good tyre, or what's better, brand A or brand B. Tyres are like that! (Everyone's an expert lol)
Just buy what YOU like.
mezza56 said
04:42 PM Apr 25, 2019
What people had fitted rocky
Bobdown said
06:03 PM Apr 25, 2019
Dunlop Grandtrek AT 22 on a LC 200, 75k on a big heavy AWD, 65k of that towing 3 ton van, 80% road 20% offroad mix, original tyre from Toyota but no complaints from me only they are about $330 ea.
Everyone has a different view.
Cheers Bob
Keith P said
06:58 PM Apr 25, 2019
I have a set of the older series BFG All Terrains atm....the second set since owning my rig...and like the last lot are going well. However .not too sure about the newer type....as around here talking to folks that have them fitted...I haven't anyone say anything good about them so far...so not sure what I,m gunna get next. But that's a few years and about 90000 k away .hopefully anyhow.
Cheers Keith
gold dandelion said
07:30 PM Apr 25, 2019
I found Pirelli Scorpion the best all round tyre, bitumen and gravel. Out lasted other brands on vehicles travelling with us.
gold dandelion said
07:31 PM Apr 25, 2019
I found Pirelli Scorpion the best all round tyre, bitumen and gravel. Out lasted other brands on vehicles travelling with us.
Baz421 said
07:49 PM Apr 25, 2019
Bobdown wrote:
Dunlop Grandtrek AT 22 on a LC 200, 75k on a big heavy AWD, 65k of that towing 3 ton van, 80% road 20% offroad mix, original tyre from Toyota but no complaints from me only they are about $330 ea.
Everyone has a different view.
Cheers Bob
Hey Bob,,, are you saying you got 75,000km from new Grandtreks fitted on new Toyota???? They have about 9-10mm tread as supplied to Toyota versus about 16 or 17mm I think normally. Mine lasted 40,000 from 10mm tread new.
Bobdown said
08:09 PM Apr 25, 2019
Baz421 wrote:
Bobdown wrote:
Dunlop Grandtrek AT 22 on a LC 200, 75k on a big heavy AWD, 65k of that towing 3 ton van, 80% road 20% offroad mix, original tyre from Toyota but no complaints from me only they are about $330 ea.
Everyone has a different view.
Cheers Bob
Hey Bob,,, are you saying you got 75,000km from new Grandtreks fitted on new Toyota???? They have about 9-10mm tread as supplied to Toyota versus about 16 or 17mm I think normally. Mine lasted 40,000 from 10mm tread new.
Interesting Baz, I said the same thing to a mate the other week, that they must have a deal with Dunlop for half tread size.
But my Cruiser is a 2015 and I just replaced the tyres in March this year, the originals always looked like a new set from Tyrepower or whatever.
Fair dinkum..............Bob
PS: I reckon I would have got another 10k from them but I tend to over inflate a bit and they only had about 2 mm left in the centre, maybe not legal.
-- Edited by Bobdown on Thursday 25th of April 2019 08:33:54 PM
Warren-Pat_01 said
09:36 PM Apr 26, 2019
On my past Nissans (an MQ & a GQ), I only had the same tyres on twice - GT Radials - Savero & they were on the GQ.
I always got similar life out of them whether they were Australian, Japanese or Korean made - around 50,odd 000kms. Yes, I could have got another 10,000kms out of them in town running but when going on holidays on all sorts of roads, possible tyre trouble was not wanted. A blowout could cost far more than a measly set of tyres.
The GU had Bridgestone 694 tyres on it when I bought it. Went to 697 for the past four sets & am happy. I get about 53,000 from them - not bad for a 3t vehicle that averages over 25,000kms a year. Friends have also fitted these tyres & again are happy.
I had BFG tyres on a camper trailer - thought they were pretty average!
So which is better? Nissan or Toyota? Holden or Ford?
Incidently, we had a blowout on the van on Good Friday - 10kms east of Hughenden. The tyre was a GT Radial - Savero. Luckily no sway, no damage to the rim. It just needed two jacks to lift the van.
Not bad Craig.........not sure if they will take off in the RV market though !!
Cheers Bob
Warren-Pat_01 said
10:21 PM Apr 27, 2019
Thanks Craig - that is ok when you have two axles. I have one!
I saw a similar device marketed a few years ago that slipped under the axle & lifted the wheel but I believe it's gone now.
As we were on a sharp drop off on the side of the road, I had to initially lift on the front of the springs until I could get enough clearance to lift under the axle. I was happy to have replaced the Jayco scissor jack with a hydraulic one. I'm not Superman, Mr Jayco!
HandyWalter said
07:24 AM Apr 28, 2019
Since I purchased a TPMS that covers 7 wheels (ie 2 axle van & car spare ) I have never had a problem with a tyre blow out. You get an early warning that something is happening and you can pull over fix/plug the leak, pump up the tyre and move on. Only time that a TPMS is no better than nothing is if you stake a tyre and have rapid air escape. Usually there are warning signs that a good TPMS will pick up well before you destroy a tyre. In most cases a blowout is the result of a under inflated tyre heating up and the rubber then disindigrates.
Warren-Pat_01 said
08:55 PM Apr 29, 2019
Thanks too Walter,
There was no warning when my tyre went - just a big BANG!!
For Nomads who are heading to North & West Qld - be wary that the edges of the highways are in places, not the best with the bitumen breaking up due to the water undermining the top coat & huge loads being carried by mining trucks. WE HAVE HAD LOTS OF RAIN UP THIS WAY!
Whether that caused the tyre to go or whether running them at max pressure (50psi), or a combination - I don't know. I was travelling at around 95-100Kph at the time but managed to pull up quite quickly without any issues. The new tyre has a better load capability - will be getting two extras soon.
Yes one day I might get one of those fancy monitors. A friend said that I had no sway issues as vans/cars have anti-sway assistance. I said on a 2004 car & 2011 van??? What happens when the electronics plays up? One has to have some skill.
Craig1 said
10:38 PM Apr 30, 2019
G'day Warren,
My google search said that your van was a tandem/dual axle, so apologies for that. Bob, I bought one, have not needed, hope I never do, but well made and quite compact.
Whenarewethere said
10:42 PM Apr 30, 2019
We destroyed a tyre on the Gibb River Road, later found out it was a screw in the tyre & I hadn't noticed the leak early enough even though I checked the tyres each day. Only one more spare left, bought TPMS in Broome. The TPMS saved us from a few more instances, so well & truly paid for itself. We plugged the tyre & could keep going. It's peace of mind that you have more options & keep all your spares.
It's a bit irritating at first letting down & pumping up tyres for rough roads. But after half a dozen times at it, you get pretty efficient, & we can pump tyres from 20psi to 35psi in 30 seconds per corner with 3 built in compressors, air tank & dryer. Takes longer to put the TPMS back on.
We remind ourselves that we have the psi for each corner on display & warning alarm if pressure varies more than 8 psi from the set level, which is worth more than the time changing tyre pressure!
I may have said this before somewhere, Cooper and Mickey's if you are doing serious desert driving on regular basis. Spent 2 1/2 years in Warburton bashing landcruisers over rocky roads with no issues. Head office then said to only use the tyres that are OEM in this case 79lc had dunlops. One of the crew did two tyres in one short trip. The carcasses of the Mickey's were absolutely trashed from rock chipping and cuts, but we had no blowouts. Saw lots of blown out Bridgestones at the roadhouse. My personal LC was fitted with Mickey's also and no issues there also.
HandyWalter said
10:29 AM May 2, 2019
TMPS are not that dear if you shop around. Ebay is a good place to start, Digoptions sell the solar one I bought, and it is still under $200. Tyre pressure is monitored (ie upper and lower thresholds) as well as tyre temps. When Highway driving, I have mine set at above 55 and not below 40. When off road I change the lower pressure to 20. I cannot remember the temp setting but I think it is about 50C. The saving of just one tyre and it pays for itself. All you then need is a air compressor and a tyre plug repair kit. I do not subscribe to the excuse I had no warning. There is only no warning if you stake the tyre with a branch or something that makes a large hole, which in any case the tyre would be a throw away.
attached poll showing results thus far , recently bought bf's not thru experience but because of various recommendations from other vanners , time will tell , fitted Falkens on the van as cheaper than bf.
Gday...
Interesting data, Doesn't Matter, what is the poll showing?
Cheers - John
The best all terrain tyre upgrade has been acoustic insulation!
Gday...
Cheers - John
-- Edited by rockylizard on Thursday 25th of April 2019 10:19:30 AM
If you are serious about tyres,you will fit BFG.When I was looking at replacing my Bridgestone 697s I did lots of research,and visited many tyre shops.General stacked up,as did Toyo,but when two different tyre shops that each sold both BFG and 697s,both said BFG every time......BFG and Bridgestone 697s are like chalk and cheese. I queried their advice,and they both cited stronger construction as the main reason for their advice.And at $280 each,theyre a bargain.If you can not afford the tyres,you cannot afford the car.Cheers
Yes I am serious about tyres and yes I fitted BFG. The first set was fine, the second set chipped badly.
Lots of brands of tyres have their advantages, and if you were to go to a third tyre shop you may have found a different opinion.
I have been closely involved in a tyre business for the last 15 years (as a silent partner), and the recommendation from those in the know at the moment is Mickey Thompson Deegan 38.
Mickey T Deegan 38 are essentially a mud tyre. Mud tyres are known to be very noisy and not long wearing. I guess it depends where you are driving most but if its mainly bitumen with a bit of dirt road, I think there are better suited tyres. Then again for every brand there are detracters and supporters. ATM I have BFG but I have also heard good reports on D697s. Also it may well depend what car they are on, as some tyres also seem to suit some brands/models better.
-- Edited by HandyWalter on Thursday 25th of April 2019 04:16:18 PM
I'm thinking that just to be posting here on this site, most people would be very experienced in driving, thus buying/using tyres?
Everyone will have a different opinion on what's a good tyre, or what's better, brand A or brand B. Tyres are like that! (Everyone's an expert lol)
Just buy what YOU like.
What people had fitted rocky
Everyone has a different view.
Cheers Bob
I have a set of the older series BFG All Terrains atm....the second set since owning my rig...and like the last lot are going well. However .not too sure about the newer type....as around here talking to folks that have them fitted...I haven't anyone say anything good about them so far...so not sure what I,m gunna get next. But that's a few years and about 90000 k away .hopefully anyhow.
Cheers Keith
I found Pirelli Scorpion the best all round tyre, bitumen and gravel. Out lasted other brands on vehicles travelling with us.
Hey Bob,,, are you saying you got 75,000km from new Grandtreks fitted on new Toyota???? They have about 9-10mm tread as supplied to Toyota versus about 16 or 17mm I think normally. Mine lasted 40,000 from 10mm tread new.
Interesting Baz, I said the same thing to a mate the other week, that they must have a deal with Dunlop for half tread size.
But my Cruiser is a 2015 and I just replaced the tyres in March this year, the originals always looked like a new set from Tyrepower or whatever.
Fair dinkum..............Bob
PS: I reckon I would have got another 10k from them but I tend to over inflate a bit and they only had about 2 mm left in the centre, maybe not legal.
-- Edited by Bobdown on Thursday 25th of April 2019 08:33:54 PM
I always got similar life out of them whether they were Australian, Japanese or Korean made - around 50,odd 000kms. Yes, I could have got another 10,000kms out of them in town running but when going on holidays on all sorts of roads, possible tyre trouble was not wanted. A blowout could cost far more than a measly set of tyres.
The GU had Bridgestone 694 tyres on it when I bought it. Went to 697 for the past four sets & am happy. I get about 53,000 from them - not bad for a 3t vehicle that averages over 25,000kms a year. Friends have also fitted these tyres & again are happy.
I had BFG tyres on a camper trailer - thought they were pretty average!
So which is better? Nissan or Toyota? Holden or Ford?
Incidently, we had a blowout on the van on Good Friday - 10kms east of Hughenden. The tyre was a GT Radial - Savero. Luckily no sway, no damage to the rim. It just needed two jacks to lift the van.
Cheers Bob
I saw a similar device marketed a few years ago that slipped under the axle & lifted the wheel but I believe it's gone now.
As we were on a sharp drop off on the side of the road, I had to initially lift on the front of the springs until I could get enough clearance to lift under the axle. I was happy to have replaced the Jayco scissor jack with a hydraulic one. I'm not Superman, Mr Jayco!
There was no warning when my tyre went - just a big BANG!!
For Nomads who are heading to North & West Qld - be wary that the edges of the highways are in places, not the best with the bitumen breaking up due to the water undermining the top coat & huge loads being carried by mining trucks. WE HAVE HAD LOTS OF RAIN UP THIS WAY!
Whether that caused the tyre to go or whether running them at max pressure (50psi), or a combination - I don't know. I was travelling at around 95-100Kph at the time but managed to pull up quite quickly without any issues. The new tyre has a better load capability - will be getting two extras soon.
Yes one day I might get one of those fancy monitors. A friend said that I had no sway issues as vans/cars have anti-sway assistance. I said on a 2004 car & 2011 van??? What happens when the electronics plays up? One has to have some skill.
My google search said that your van was a tandem/dual axle, so apologies for that. Bob, I bought one, have not needed, hope I never do, but well made and quite compact.
We destroyed a tyre on the Gibb River Road, later found out it was a screw in the tyre & I hadn't noticed the leak early enough even though I checked the tyres each day. Only one more spare left, bought TPMS in Broome. The TPMS saved us from a few more instances, so well & truly paid for itself. We plugged the tyre & could keep going. It's peace of mind that you have more options & keep all your spares.
It's a bit irritating at first letting down & pumping up tyres for rough roads. But after half a dozen times at it, you get pretty efficient, & we can pump tyres from 20psi to 35psi in 30 seconds per corner with 3 built in compressors, air tank & dryer. Takes longer to put the TPMS back on.
We remind ourselves that we have the psi for each corner on display & warning alarm if pressure varies more than 8 psi from the set level, which is worth more than the time changing tyre pressure!
I may have said this before somewhere, Cooper and Mickey's if you are doing serious desert driving on regular basis. Spent 2 1/2 years in Warburton bashing landcruisers over rocky roads with no issues. Head office then said to only use the tyres that are OEM in this case 79lc had dunlops. One of the crew did two tyres in one short trip. The carcasses of the Mickey's were absolutely trashed from rock chipping and cuts, but we had no blowouts. Saw lots of blown out Bridgestones at the roadhouse. My personal LC was fitted with Mickey's also and no issues there also.
TMPS are not that dear if you shop around. Ebay is a good place to start, Digoptions sell the solar one I bought, and it is still under $200. Tyre pressure is monitored (ie upper and lower thresholds) as well as tyre temps. When Highway driving, I have mine set at above 55 and not below 40. When off road I change the lower pressure to 20. I cannot remember the temp setting but I think it is about 50C. The saving of just one tyre and it pays for itself. All you then need is a air compressor and a tyre plug repair kit. I do not subscribe to the excuse I had no warning. There is only no warning if you stake the tyre with a branch or something that makes a large hole, which in any case the tyre would be a throw away.