hi all, have been travelling around with our recently installed snorkel on the new mazda bt50. the noise/drone/ engine noise, even with windows up is driving the wife and i crazy. before the snorkel was fitted, the BT was very quite. i have since called the installer and explained the noise to which he said it was normal. over my life time ive had eight 4wds, all with snorkels, but none have ever been close to the noise levell of this.
has anyone else experianced this noise?, could it have been installed wrong? i realize that on newer cars the induction noise can be louder but this seems to be WAYYYYY above the normal. CHEERS and happy travells to all. Peter. ps-- im seriously thinking of removing it.
Possum3 said
03:05 PM Apr 10, 2019
If snorkel is facing forward turn it around so air doesn't ram down the tube. It is better facing the rear anyway as it doesn't allow dust to enter.
yobarr said
03:29 PM Apr 10, 2019
Possum3 wrote:
If snorkel is facing forward turn it around so air doesn't ram down the tube. It is better facing the rear anyway as it doesn't allow dust to enter.
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-- Edited by yobarr on Wednesday 10th of April 2019 03:32:40 PM
HandyWalter said
04:02 PM Apr 10, 2019
The way a snorkel oraface is facing is very much dependent on the vehicle and manufacturers recommendation. Some vehicle require a forward facing opening to ram the air into the motor, others this is not so dependent. I would be chec king with Mazda before I turned it around.
Peter_n_Margaret said
05:44 PM Apr 10, 2019
Possum3 wrote:
It is better facing the rear anyway as it doesn't allow dust to enter.
Same amount of air goes in irrespective of the way it faces, so it will make no measurable difference to the dust entry. In any case, by picking up air from a higher point it will likely get cleaner air than the standard intake.
To keep more dust out, don't follow other traffic so close.
In fact facing forward might give a small ram effect that would increase performance a tad.
Cheers,
Peter
Greystone said
06:03 PM Apr 10, 2019
There are three sources of noise. One is caused by air being sucked into the snorkel which creates a hissing sound. Nothing much you can do about this. The other is caused by vibration of the air due to the turbine blades. This is amplified by the duct walls, like a trombone. This can be mitigated somewhat by carefully choosing the length of the snorkel in respect to your cruising engine speed. The third source is the airflow buffeting around the snorkel when you drive at high speed. Varying the distance between the snorkel and your window frame may help somewhat.
In most cases a snorkel likely increases cabin noise.
thomas01 said
07:01 PM Apr 10, 2019
I drive a BT50 with a snorkel and find the noise level to be audible, without being overbearing. With the windows up the noise level is negligible. It was installed from new, so I have no idea of the noise level without it. Last vehicle was a Navara, also with a snorkel, which I thought was a lot quieter.
That was until the wife commented that she thought the BT50 was quieter. The difference of opinion was found to be caused by the fact that the snorkel was now on the drivers side (my side) whereas in the Nissan it was on the passenger side. Could this be part of the issue?
Regards
Craig1 said
09:13 PM Apr 10, 2019
G'day Cobb.
You dont say who installed or which brand. Some Toyota owners have an issue with ARB, but others reckon no problems. The ARB ones have been mostly sorted with a " baffle arrangement ?". Also check all the mounting bolts,rivets, clamps etc. maybe even the entry to airfilter.
JackoFJR said
09:14 PM Apr 10, 2019
What make is the snorkel ?
cobberdog said
08:28 AM Apr 11, 2019
it is a TJM AIRTEC SNORKEL. thanks for all replies. i will take it back to the installer and have them check all joins etc and make sure they put air filter back in.
JackoFJR said
10:41 AM Apr 11, 2019
Years ago when I had a 2.8lt Hilux I had a Snorkel fitted , I believe it was a AirTec , it had a small piece of foam fitter to the top where the Snorkel Head attached to the tube
without the foam the noise was very loud , still wasn't the best even with the foam .
I eventually replaced the AirTec Snorkel with a Safari Snorkel that cured the problem .
But like I say that was a long time ago with a 2.8 Hilux , it might not be the case now with the BT50 .
Can you find someone with a BT50 and different Snorkel and go for a drive .
cobberdog said
06:13 PM Apr 11, 2019
thanks jack, ill look into that tomorro. i initially asked about the safari and was told they are as good as each other
Hylife said
06:19 PM May 1, 2019
The noise is called induction noise.
Normally air filter boxes are specifically designed to be tuned to the frequency of the induction sounds to render the noise Null.
Fitting a snorkel screws with this.
Most modern diesel induction noise is caused by the turbo.
Baffles can be fitted inside the snorkel to re-tune and/or muffle the intake system noise.
hi all, have been travelling around with our recently installed snorkel on the new mazda bt50. the noise/drone/ engine noise, even with windows up is driving the wife and i crazy. before the snorkel was fitted, the BT was very quite. i have since called the installer and explained the noise to which he said it was normal. over my life time ive had eight 4wds, all with snorkels, but none have ever been close to the noise levell of this.
has anyone else experianced this noise?, could it have been installed wrong? i realize that on newer cars the induction noise can be louder but this seems to be WAYYYYY above the normal. CHEERS and happy travells to all. Peter. ps-- im seriously thinking of removing it.
.
-- Edited by yobarr on Wednesday 10th of April 2019 03:32:40 PM
Same amount of air goes in irrespective of the way it faces, so it will make no measurable difference to the dust entry. In any case, by picking up air from a higher point it will likely get cleaner air than the standard intake.
To keep more dust out, don't follow other traffic so close.
In fact facing forward might give a small ram effect that would increase performance a tad.
Cheers,
Peter
That was until the wife commented that she thought the BT50 was quieter. The difference of opinion was found to be caused by the fact that the snorkel was now on the drivers side (my side) whereas in the Nissan it was on the passenger side. Could this be part of the issue?
Regards
You dont say who installed or which brand. Some Toyota owners have an issue with ARB, but others reckon no problems. The ARB ones have been mostly sorted with a " baffle arrangement ?". Also check all the mounting bolts,rivets, clamps etc. maybe even the entry to airfilter.
Years ago when I had a 2.8lt Hilux I had a Snorkel fitted , I believe it was a AirTec , it had a small piece of foam fitter to the top where the Snorkel Head attached to the tube
without the foam the noise was very loud , still wasn't the best even with the foam .
I eventually replaced the AirTec Snorkel with a Safari Snorkel that cured the problem .
But like I say that was a long time ago with a 2.8 Hilux , it might not be the case now with the BT50 .
Can you find someone with a BT50 and different Snorkel and go for a drive .
Normally air filter boxes are specifically designed to be tuned to the frequency of the induction sounds to render the noise Null.
Fitting a snorkel screws with this.
Most modern diesel induction noise is caused by the turbo.
Baffles can be fitted inside the snorkel to re-tune and/or muffle the intake system noise.