I would like any information from dmax owners on pedders ,ironman Lovell's or any other legal suspension upgrade up to 3600 kg any recomendations would be great thank
Possum3 said
10:15 AM Apr 4, 2019
Not entirely to topic but if going to Suspension specialist get them to check spring eyes - refer Rocky's advice in Technical sub forum Recalls.
Dougwe said
12:59 PM Apr 4, 2019
I could be wrong (I have been known to be) but I thought I read somewhere recently that you can't do a suspension upgrade on an existing vehicle only new from the factory one's and before you take delivery.
I had an extra leaf put on both rear leaf springs many moons ago now and improved towing a lot. The Aluminium TeePee and Collie sit nice and level too, without WDB.
Keep Safe on the roads and out there.
JackoFJR said
01:12 PM Apr 4, 2019
Dougwe wrote:
I could be wrong (I have been known to be) but I thought I read somewhere recently that you can't do a suspension upgrade on an existing vehicle only new from the factory one's and before you take delivery.
I had an extra leaf put on both rear leaf springs many moons ago now and improved towing a lot. The Aluminium TeePee and Collie sit nice and level too, without WDB.
Keep Safe on the roads and out there.
Yep ya wrong , you can
DMaxer said
02:54 PM Apr 4, 2019
Hi Travelyounger. I went down this path last year, not to increase GVM, but to improve towing. I looked at all the after market suspension upgrades until I was nearly in therapy. On the recommendation of another forum member I then changed my mind and had the extra leaf in the rear suspension with no change to the front. Works brilliantly.
If you go to the Search Function on this site and look under Suspension Upgrade you will see the advice that I received and where I went. It will save you a lot of money and will probably solve your problems.
I tried to get information from Isuzu but just got the "can't recommend anything" routine. Surprisingly, when I was getting my latest service done at the Isuzu dealer, they had a D Max that they used for the NRMA Roadside Service, It also carried replacement batteries, tools and all the stuff they usually cart about. I spoke with the driver and he informed me that the only thing they had done to the car was, you guessed it, had another leaf inserted. This D Max had some serious weight in the back yet sat flat.
Hope this helps.
travelyounger said
03:07 PM Apr 4, 2019
Yes thanks for info I have already had 2 extra leaf springs added efs shocks and HD springs front but it is more about insurance if accident happened as carry 3500 KGS loaded so need to be a legal kit then can be upgraded just wondered has anyone had this done to there vehicle cheers
mezza56 said
06:38 PM Apr 4, 2019
Have you spoken to Lovells to see if they do one ? Had the landcruiser done and got a new plate fitted and approved by vic roads , then notified our insurance and had it notorised on our insurance plan.
yobarr said
10:39 PM Apr 4, 2019
travelyounger wrote:
Gvm upgrade izuxu d.max
I would like any information from dmax owners on pedders ,ironman Lovell's or any other legal suspension upgrade up to 3600 kg any recomendations would be great thank
Where abouts in Australia are you? If anywhere near Brisbane or Sydney,Carroll Springs are WAY cheaper than Lovells,from my experience.Very quick,very efficient,and they certainly know their stuff! And you can indeed upgrade your GVM...its the GCM upgrade that can be tricky/impossible. Cheers
travelyounger said
06:10 AM Apr 5, 2019
Carolls springs in Brisbane did my upgrade but they said no gvm upgrade in 2017 when I bought my ute I will call them thanks
montie said
11:23 AM Apr 5, 2019
travelyounger wrote:
Gvm upgrade izuxu d.max
I would like any information from dmax owners on pedders ,ironman Lovell's or any other legal suspension upgrade up to 3600 kg any recomendations would be great thank
Just remember that a GVM upgrade does not increase your GCM rating of 6000kg so if you load to the new upgraded GVM rating you will be very restricted in towing capacity.
Depending on ball weight your max tow capacity will be around 2650kg if you load to 3600kg inc ball weight.
-- Edited by montie on Friday 5th of April 2019 11:29:56 AM
travelyounger said
06:49 PM Apr 8, 2019
Everyone seems to have a different opinion on this subject has anyone had the upgrade by Lovell's or any other suspension company thanks
yobarr said
07:47 PM Apr 8, 2019
travelyounger wrote:
Everyone seems to have a different opinion on this subject has anyone had the upgrade by Lovell's or any other suspension company thanks
If you had been a little more specific in your intentions,and told us where you live,perhaps you would have got more help? I see little difference in opinion,but Montie summed things up nicely.If you want to upgrade your GVM to 3600kg,AND also tow a van,with your cars GCM of 6000kg,it will have to be a small van,no more than 2650kg ATM.This being the case,your 3600kg GVM will include 265kg (10%) towball weight,leaving the vans GTM at 2385kg. Add GVM and GTM together (3600+2385kg) and you are right on your max GCM.Be aware that a GVM upgrade does not increase GCM.Again I will say that,if you are near Sydney or Brisbane,Carroll springs are well ahead of the rest.Cheers
yobarr said
07:51 PM Apr 8, 2019
travelyounger wrote:
Carolls springs in Brisbane did my upgrade but they said no gvm upgrade in 2017 when I bought my ute I will call them thanks
Contact is Doug Butler. 07)37239504.
travelyounger said
08:33 PM Apr 8, 2019
Hi yobarr
You could be correct but I talked to a Lovell's approved gvm fitter and he said a 3600 kit would give my 2017 spacecab a gcm off 7100 kg and 3600 kg gvm all engineered and approved by RMS NSW I will be meeting and discussing with him and making sure that this true . When I find out for sure I will respond on the grey nomads site thanks
Gvm upgrade izuxu d.max
I would like any information from dmax owners on pedders ,ironman Lovell's or any other legal suspension upgrade up to 3600 kg any recomendations would be great thank
I had an extra leaf put on both rear leaf springs many moons ago now and improved towing a lot. The Aluminium TeePee and Collie sit nice and level too, without WDB.
Keep Safe on the roads and out there.
Yep ya wrong , you can
Hi Travelyounger. I went down this path last year, not to increase GVM, but to improve towing. I looked at all the after market suspension upgrades until I was nearly in therapy. On the recommendation of another forum member I then changed my mind and had the extra leaf in the rear suspension with no change to the front. Works brilliantly.
If you go to the Search Function on this site and look under Suspension Upgrade you will see the advice that I received and where I went. It will save you a lot of money and will probably solve your problems.
I tried to get information from Isuzu but just got the "can't recommend anything" routine. Surprisingly, when I was getting my latest service done at the Isuzu dealer, they had a D Max that they used for the NRMA Roadside Service, It also carried replacement batteries, tools and all the stuff they usually cart about. I spoke with the driver and he informed me that the only thing they had done to the car was, you guessed it, had another leaf inserted. This D Max had some serious weight in the back yet sat flat.
Hope this helps.
Yes thanks for info I have already had 2 extra leaf springs added efs shocks and HD springs front but it is more about insurance if accident happened as carry 3500 KGS loaded so need to be a legal kit then can be upgraded just wondered has anyone had this done to there vehicle cheers
Have you spoken to Lovells to see if they do one ? Had the landcruiser done and got a new plate fitted and approved by vic roads , then notified our insurance and had it notorised on our insurance plan.
Where abouts in Australia are you? If anywhere near Brisbane or Sydney,Carroll Springs are WAY cheaper than Lovells,from my experience.Very quick,very efficient,and they certainly know their stuff! And you can indeed upgrade your GVM...its the GCM upgrade that can be tricky/impossible. Cheers
Carolls springs in Brisbane did my upgrade but they said no gvm upgrade in 2017 when I bought my ute I will call them thanks
Just remember that a GVM upgrade does not increase your GCM rating of 6000kg so if you load to the new upgraded GVM rating you will be very restricted in towing capacity.
Depending on ball weight your max tow capacity will be around 2650kg if you load to 3600kg inc ball weight.
-- Edited by montie on Friday 5th of April 2019 11:29:56 AM
Everyone seems to have a different opinion on this subject has anyone had the upgrade by Lovell's or any other suspension company thanks
If you had been a little more specific in your intentions,and told us where you live,perhaps you would have got more help? I see little difference in opinion,but Montie summed things up nicely.If you want to upgrade your GVM to 3600kg,AND also tow a van,with your cars GCM of 6000kg,it will have to be a small van,no more than 2650kg ATM.This being the case,your 3600kg GVM will include 265kg (10%) towball weight,leaving the vans GTM at 2385kg. Add GVM and GTM together (3600+2385kg) and you are right on your max GCM.Be aware that a GVM upgrade does not increase GCM.Again I will say that,if you are near Sydney or Brisbane,Carroll springs are well ahead of the rest.Cheers
Contact is Doug Butler. 07)37239504.
Hi yobarr
You could be correct but I talked to a Lovell's approved gvm fitter and he said a 3600 kit would give my 2017 spacecab a gcm off 7100 kg and 3600 kg gvm all engineered and approved by RMS NSW I will be meeting and discussing with him and making sure that this true . When I find out for sure I will respond on the grey nomads site thanks