Are there any members using a 2018/2019 Muzzo for towing 2000 kg van and can give a short review please. Cheers Steve
Jimmy Kwaka said
06:17 PM Mar 31, 2019
I had no idea that SsangYong were back in Australia. Had a quick look at a couple of reviews. No longer junkyard dog ugly (and any owners of Ssangers, please don't take offence, but really, they looked like something even your grandmother would strangle ) and surprisingly well equipped. 3.5 tonne towing with auto, 3 with a manual. 133 kilowatts and 400 nm. Not industry leading, but heck, at a good price and with a seven year warranty, well, it could be a player. This time they are factory backed rather than having a local distributor. And the Koreans are really fast learners.
-- Edited by Jimmy Kwaka on Sunday 31st of March 2019 06:18:51 PM
Peter_n_Margaret said
06:32 PM Mar 31, 2019
My only experience was with this one that drowned in a creek on the Cape Melville Track on Cape York Peninsula. We dragged it out and then drove through.
Actually, I am one that did like the look of the old SsangYong.
Craig1 said
09:13 PM Mar 31, 2019
Geeez Possum, what is the guide dog's name?
Knight said
07:47 AM Apr 1, 2019
"SsangYong Motor Company (Korean: Ssangyong meaning "Double Dragons") is a subsidiary of Indian multinational automotive company Mahindra & Mahindra Limited and the fourth largest South Korea-based automobile manufacturer.
A 70% share of SsangYong was acquired by Mahindra & Mahindra Limited in February 2011, after being named the preferred bidder in 2010 to acquire the bankruptcy-protected company. Mahindra's acquisition was approved by South Korea's Free Trade Commission. As of January 2019, Mahindra & Mahindra Limited holds 74.65% stake in the company."
Mahindra SUV and light truck models have been sold here since at least 2010, SUV XUV500 has never gained a significant market share however the utes have done better in country areas.
If the Ssangyoung uses the same diesel engine it was designed in Austria, the manual transmission is Jeep and the auto is Japanese.
Mariner30 said
08:46 AM Apr 1, 2019
Factory says 80 kmhr towing,
2.2 lt turbo diesel
Loud 'noise' at 3000 rpm
Gearbox would not remain locked
3500 kg tow cap in the long term real world?
Doubtful...
Best suited for rough suburban streets, where street sweepers remove the yucky stuff, like dust, pigeon poop and labrador turds.
Jimmy Kwaka said
11:14 AM Apr 1, 2019
Mariner30 wrote:
Best suited for rough suburban streets, where street sweepers remove the yucky stuff, like dust, pigeon poop and labrador turds.
Now now Mariner...new ideas, new players in the market cannot be a bad thing. Sure, they may well be a ****ebox, but they have probably come on leaps and bounds. I too am a bit wary of untried offerings, but gee, remember when the first Toyotas came on the market in Australia? Or the first Dattos and Nissans? People laughed. They laugh no more. In fact, the latest sales figures show that the Hilux just outsold Holden. No, not just the Commodore. All the Holden offerings put together.
steve3154 said
11:32 AM Apr 1, 2019
If you bother to read my question, i specifically asked if there was a member who tows with a 2018/2019 Musso.
I have watched/read about every review on the Musso. I had the original Musso Sports which we used for towing a light weight Viscount van with no problems.
I'm not interested in replies other than those that address my question.
Cheers
Steve3154
-- Edited by steve3154 on Monday 1st of April 2019 11:38:14 AM
Mariner30 said
11:33 AM Apr 1, 2019
Jimmy,
It's what day again?
I don't actually remember Toyota's 4wd launch, even though l'm old enough,
I remember the first model passing us in the 60's ( we were in a kombi...everything passed it ) looked ok but only the rich folks could afford a new one,
Jimmy Kwaka said
12:16 PM Apr 1, 2019
Mariner30 wrote:
Jimmy, It's what day again? I don't actually remember Toyota's 4wd launch, even though l'm old enough, I remember the first model passing us in the 60's ( we were in a kombi...everything passed it ) looked ok but only the rich folks could afford a new one,
If you bother to read my question, i specifically asked if there was a member who tows with a 2018/2019 Musso.
I have watched/read about every review on the Musso. I had the original Musso Sports which we used for towing a light weight Viscount van with no problems.
I'm not interested in replies other than those that address my question.
Cheers
Steve3154
-- Edited by steve3154 on Monday 1st of April 2019 11:38:14 AM
Many can't help themselves. This is what happens here, tend to stray off the original path.
Dick.
Nevd said
02:23 PM Apr 1, 2019
If you're thing about longer term towing, maybe wait a bit until the LWB version with heavier duty rear leaf springs arrives later this year.
Looks interesting, but being an early adopter always has its risks.
Someone please buy one and live with it for awhile so we all know.
Mariner30 said
02:29 PM Apr 1, 2019
The mag article says the musso only came back in Oz in dec '18,
Probably NOT going to be a lot of personal long term 'van/boat/ trailer towing reviews since then...
The mag indicates 5 days of testing...
The said vehicle came second last, as l read it,
Don't have any personal experience with the new one though,
Think l'd wait for a long term test.
PeterD said
03:18 PM Apr 1, 2019
steve3154 wrote:
Are there any members using a 2018/2019 Muzzo for towing 2000 kg van and can give a short review please. Cheers Steve
The best I can do is to say our next door neighbour has one. He was towing a van of about 17-1800 kg. He found it quite good. I can't add to that as I am not home to quiz him for more comment.
Peter_n_Margaret said
06:41 PM Apr 1, 2019
steve3154 wrote:
If you bother to read my question, i specifically asked if there was a member who tows with a 2018/2019 Musso.
I have watched/read about every review on the Musso. I had the original Musso Sports which we used for towing a light weight Viscount van with no problems.
I'm not interested in replies other than those that address my question.
Cheers
Steve3154
Better ask your question elsewhere then Steve.
What you see is what you get with forums. Accept it, or not, but there is no point getting bitchy about it.
Cheers,
Peter
Jimmy Kwaka said
09:21 PM Apr 1, 2019
'Peter_n_Margaret wrote:
steve3154 wrote:
If you bother to read my question, i specifically asked if there was a member who tows with a 2018/2019 Musso.
I have watched/read about every review on the Musso. I had the original Musso Sports which we used for towing a light weight Viscount van with no problems.
I'm not interested in replies other than those that address my question.
Cheers
Steve3154
Better ask your question elsewhere then Steve.
What you see is what you get with forums. Accept it, or not, but there is no point getting bitchy about it.
Cheers,
Peter
I too was a bit taken aback by Steve. He need not worry however. I for one will not bother to read any of his future contributions. But I will be on the lookout for his book...'How To Make New Friends And influence People On The Interwebby Forum Thingy.' Perhaps I could learn a thing or two.
PeterD said
11:28 PM Apr 1, 2019
I thought Steve had a point. Too much white noise in a thread masks any answers on the original question. If you want to go off in a tangent then start a new thread.
littledick said
08:04 AM Apr 2, 2019
PeterD wrote:
I thought Steve had a point. Too much white noise in a thread masks any answers on the original question. If you want to go off in a tangent then start a new thread.
Going off tangent is a part of any site, not just this one. Why would Steve wish to ask anything after some remarks here?
Dick.
steve3154 said
09:26 AM Apr 2, 2019
I've reached the age where l don't have time for tyres kickers and time wasters.
If you think l'm bitchy, good on yer, your entitled but don't waste mine and others time with replies which do not address the question on this forum.
For all the who have helped with honesty,THANK YOU.
Cheers Steve3154
Cruising Cruze said
10:14 PM Apr 2, 2019
7 years warranty sounds ok but you have to wait for 6 months or longer to get the spare parts if you need them I hope you get my drift. They are not that good in solving warranty problems
-- Edited by Cruising Cruze on Tuesday 2nd of April 2019 10:15:51 PM
PeterD said
08:08 AM Apr 3, 2019
Cruising Cruze wrote:
7 years warranty sounds ok but you have to wait for 6 months or longer to get the spare parts if you need them I hope you get my drift. They are not that good in solving warranty problems
That goes for most of the brands if you require a major part. The 6 months sounds a bit glib, where did you get that info from?
Jaahn said
09:17 AM Apr 3, 2019
steve3154 wrote:
I've reached the age where l don't have time for tyres kickers and time wasters.
If you think l'm bitchy, good on yer, your entitled but don't waste mine and others time with replies which do not address the question on this forum.
For all the who have helped with honesty,THANK YOU.
Cheers Steve3154
Hi Steve
You know people go on forums regularly for their own amusement and like to 'chat' a bit. Sometimes here to chat about cars, vans, solar, general problems and BS. That's why forums exist. Now sometimes a newbie comes along assuming that the people on the forum exist just to answer their question, indeed that the whole group is just waiting by their keyboard for newbies to ask something to 'make their day'
Well you made our day by trying to insult us. But hey, we are not wasting our time because it is a study in human nature, and that is part of life's learning. Whether it is wasting yours, well that's your business. If you continue to come on here is also your business. Good luck with getting answers to your specific questions
Jaahn
Ron-D said
09:18 AM Apr 3, 2019
steve3154 wrote:
Are there any members using a 2018/2019 Muzzo for towing 2000 kg van and can give a short review please. Cheers Steve
I dont think theres anyone here towing with the above combination,they might be a very good thing,but they may well be a very bad thing,there cheap and have no track record that I hnow of towing reasonably heavy vans in Australia,people usually buy vehicles that have been around a few years and proven themselves to be excellent tow vehicles,thats just common sense as theres a lot of money involved .I paid a premium price for a well respected premium brand tow vehicle,does that make me foolish...
Nevd said
10:04 AM Apr 3, 2019
A bit more about the LWB Musso here. Seems like you'll have to have the base model to tow a decent van because the coil springs sag a bit with a load on.
Are there any members using a 2018/2019 Muzzo for towing 2000 kg van and can give a short review please. Cheers Steve
I had no idea that SsangYong were back in Australia. Had a quick look at a couple of reviews. No longer junkyard dog ugly (and any owners of Ssangers, please don't take offence, but really, they looked like something even your grandmother would strangle ) and surprisingly well equipped. 3.5 tonne towing with auto, 3 with a manual. 133 kilowatts and 400 nm. Not industry leading, but heck, at a good price and with a seven year warranty, well, it could be a player. This time they are factory backed rather than having a local distributor. And the Koreans are really fast learners.
-- Edited by Jimmy Kwaka on Sunday 31st of March 2019 06:18:51 PM
My only experience was with this one that drowned in a creek on the Cape Melville Track on Cape York Peninsula.
We dragged it out and then drove through.
Cheers,
Peter
Actually, I am one that did like the look of the old SsangYong.
A 70% share of SsangYong was acquired by Mahindra & Mahindra Limited in February 2011, after being named the preferred bidder in 2010 to acquire the bankruptcy-protected company. Mahindra's acquisition was approved by South Korea's Free Trade Commission. As of January 2019, Mahindra & Mahindra Limited holds 74.65% stake in the company."
Mahindra SUV and light truck models have been sold here since at least 2010, SUV XUV500 has never gained a significant market share however the utes have done better in country areas.
If the Ssangyoung uses the same diesel engine it was designed in Austria, the manual transmission is Jeep and the auto is Japanese.
They are starting to be featured in road tests - Best Dual-Cab 4WD Ute of 2019
Now now Mariner...new ideas, new players in the market cannot be a bad thing. Sure, they may well be a ****ebox, but they have probably come on leaps and bounds. I too am a bit wary of untried offerings, but gee, remember when the first Toyotas came on the market in Australia? Or the first Dattos and Nissans? People laughed. They laugh no more. In fact, the latest sales figures show that the Hilux just outsold Holden. No, not just the Commodore. All the Holden offerings put together.
If you bother to read my question, i specifically asked if there was a member who tows with a 2018/2019 Musso.
I have watched/read about every review on the Musso. I had the original Musso Sports which we used for towing a light weight Viscount van with no problems.
I'm not interested in replies other than those that address my question.
Cheers
Steve3154
-- Edited by steve3154 on Monday 1st of April 2019 11:38:14 AM
https://www.caradvice.com.au/732488/toyota-hilux-outsells-entire-holden-range/
Many can't help themselves. This is what happens here, tend to stray off the original path.
Dick.
If you're thing about longer term towing, maybe wait a bit until the LWB version with heavier duty rear leaf springs arrives later this year.
https://www.carsguide.com.au/car-news/ssangyong-musso-2019-long-wheelbase-unveiled-set-for-australia-72498
Looks interesting, but being an early adopter always has its risks.
Someone please buy one and live with it for awhile so we all know.
The best I can do is to say our next door neighbour has one. He was towing a van of about 17-1800 kg. He found it quite good. I can't add to that as I am not home to quiz him for more comment.
Better ask your question elsewhere then Steve.
What you see is what you get with forums. Accept it, or not, but there is no point getting bitchy about it.
Cheers,
Peter
I too was a bit taken aback by Steve. He need not worry however. I for one will not bother to read any of his future contributions. But I will be on the lookout for his book...'How To Make New Friends And influence People On The Interwebby Forum Thingy.' Perhaps I could learn a thing or two.
Going off tangent is a part of any site, not just this one. Why would Steve wish to ask anything after some remarks here?
Dick.
I've reached the age where l don't have time for tyres kickers and time wasters.
If you think l'm bitchy, good on yer, your entitled but don't waste mine and others time with replies which do not address the question on this forum.
For all the who have helped with honesty,THANK YOU.
Cheers Steve3154
7 years warranty sounds ok but you have to wait for 6 months or longer to get the spare parts if you need them
I hope you get my drift. They are not that good in solving warranty problems
-- Edited by Cruising Cruze on Tuesday 2nd of April 2019 10:15:51 PM
That goes for most of the brands if you require a major part. The 6 months sounds a bit glib, where did you get that info from?
Hi Steve
You know people go on forums regularly for their own amusement and like to 'chat' a bit. Sometimes here to chat about cars, vans, solar, general problems and BS. That's why forums exist. Now sometimes a newbie comes along assuming that the people on the forum exist just to answer their question, indeed that the whole group is just waiting by their keyboard for newbies to ask something to 'make their day'
Well you made our day by trying to insult us. But hey, we are not wasting our time because it is a study in human nature, and that is part of life's learning. Whether it is wasting yours, well that's your business. If you continue to come on here is also your business. Good luck with getting answers to your specific questions
Jaahn
I dont think theres anyone here towing with the above combination,they might be a very good thing,but they may well be a very bad thing,there cheap and have no track record that I hnow of towing reasonably heavy vans in Australia,people usually buy vehicles that have been around a few years and proven themselves to be excellent tow vehicles,thats just common sense as theres a lot of money involved .I paid a premium price for a well respected premium brand tow vehicle,does that make me foolish...
www.caradvice.com.au/741331/2019-ssangyong-musso-xlv-review-long-wheelbase/
Hi Steve,
Don't own one 'yet' but have inspected and test driven a Musso at Cricks,Tweed Heads fortnight ago.
Drove well, handled good and had plenty of get up and go.
Build finish was equal to its competitors and interior was better than most.
Being short wheel base the rear tub was ugly 'I' thought, but have seen one with a canopy and looked quite good.
I think I'll wait for the L.W.B. model and have a look at that.
Looking at the comparison tests the Musso came in 5th and tied with the Mercedes for towing and overall didn't come last.
Half the price of the Mercedes, Just need to prove themselves and then they will be popular.
Keep researching and make your own educated decision Steve,
Cheers Graham.