Somebody will know... How long ago was it that Diesel fuel had the Sulpher content reduced here in Australia. I remember BP having to pay out millions to car owners to replace seals in fuel systems that leaked. My Grey import Tarago had the whole back end covered in diesel. I was sent to a diesel mechanic in Springwood Brisbane to have it fixed. Took less than an hour and no cost to me.
Now many years later we find out that the Govt hasn't followed much of the rest of the world by reducing High Sulpher petrol here.
-- Edited by Yuglamron on Tuesday 26th of March 2019 09:43:58 AM
Mariner30 said
10:55 AM Mar 26, 2019
Dunno about the sulphur question but...umm...is Volkswagen etc really a credible source,
given their penchant for telling porkies about fuel usage
Just sayin'...
Tony Bev said
11:23 AM Mar 26, 2019
A good article, John (Rockylizard)
I was unaware that we had high sulpher content, in our petrol
I do recall, (going from memory), that we went unleaded, as the authorities found too much lead in the air, in the cities
It appears that this may have been affecting the brain power of city schoolchildren, in comparrison to the rural schoolchildren
Whenarewethere said
12:16 PM Mar 26, 2019
For a few decades I have been using 98. First car had cylinders liners so it was bullet proof, 250k km. Second car, always had fuel filter issues on 91. Second half of its life I used 98. A whisker more economical & no fuel issues. Also 250k km, my mechanic took it from me!
Current car engine can use 91, but is tuned for 95. I always put 98 in it if possible. It gives me more range & works out at the same cost per actual km in fuel cost.
Around Australia I had to buy 91 a couple of times as there was no choice, so my back up of 98 was watered down a bit.
The 98 fuel costs more but you get more range & less maintenance so it is more economical in the long run.
Whenarewethere said
12:22 PM Mar 26, 2019
Tony Bev wrote:
A good article, John (Rockylizard)
I was unaware that we had high sulpher content, in our petrol
I do recall, (going from memory), that we went unleaded, as the authorities found too much lead in the air, in the cities
It appears that this may have been affecting the brain power of city schoolchildren, in comparrison to the rural schoolchildren
About 20 years after a city anywhere in the world stopped using lead in fuel. Crime rates dropped according.
Whenarewethere said
12:32 PM Mar 26, 2019
The Manly Ferry & similar boats are all using bottom of the barrel crap high sulphur fuel with a lot of other toxic elements including heavy metals. Prevailing winds fumigate the population & the community pays the price.
If you have a diesel car & kids at least get them in the car before starting it. Kids being shorter do breath in a higher percentage of toxins from exhaust.
Dougwe said
02:11 PM Mar 26, 2019
Mmmm, interesting Rocky.
Maybe we need to get some 91 and 95 RONDA fuel to even out the playing field.
Terryt said
08:06 PM Mar 26, 2019
I'm a bit confused. I thought most of our petrol came from o/s. Do they mix up an inferior blend for us.
Kebbin said
09:37 AM Mar 27, 2019
Agree with Terry here there is something amiss or the article is fiction, as we get about 90% of our fuel from China, Singapore & South Korea which is produced at 10 ppm sulfur the producers would then have to add sulfur up to 50 ppm to export to Australia, this is unlikely
The article seems to be assuming that we produce all our own fuel through our own refineries, when only 10% is the fact.
Clear as mud, Is the Australian refined stuff trucked separately? Does it get mixed with imported stuff? Does it only go to certain stations? Unlikely. So maybe the articles should have said 10% of petrol in higher in sulfur, but we don't know if you will ever have a tank of 50-150 ppm in you car ever.
Just more BS, this time from the Industry. It is well known by people in the running of wells that 'light sweet'crude oil can be put directly into an older diesel straight from the well unrefined. This is the preferred crude for refining.
The industry report quoted suggests the following....
'Much of Australias crude oil production is also of a quality (light sweet) which is very commercially attractive for processing in other countries. Australian refineries require a blend of crude oils to produce the product slate demanded by Australian fuel users'.
Where Wiki and others suggest....
'Sweet crude oil contains small amounts of hydrogen sulfide and carbon dioxide. High-quality, low-sulfur crude oil is commonly used for processing into gasoline and is in high demand, particularly in industrialized nations. Light sweet crude oil is the most sought-after version of crude oil as it contains a disproportionately large fraction that is directly processed (fractionation) into gasoline (naphtha), kerosene, and high-quality diesel (gas oil). The term sweet originates from the fact that a low level of sulfur provides the oil with a mildly sweet taste and pleasant smell. Nineteenth-century prospectors would taste and smell small quantities of oil to determine its quality'.[3]
Warren-Pat_01 said
12:19 AM Mar 28, 2019
How do you spell "Sulphur"? I was put off the RACV report with "Sulfur"!! I also found "Sulfer", "Sulpher" Is this more of the Yank influence on our spelling?
My Rover mower still starts on the first or second pull of the rope! That's the main thing.
Gday...
Read the article here
Cheers - John
Somebody will know... How long ago was it that Diesel fuel had the Sulpher content reduced here in Australia. I remember BP having to pay out millions to car owners to replace seals in fuel systems that leaked. My Grey import Tarago had the whole back end covered in diesel. I was sent to a diesel mechanic in Springwood Brisbane to have it fixed. Took less than an hour and no cost to me.
Now many years later we find out that the Govt hasn't followed much of the rest of the world by reducing High Sulpher petrol here.
-- Edited by Yuglamron on Tuesday 26th of March 2019 09:43:58 AM
I was unaware that we had high sulpher content, in our petrol
I do recall, (going from memory), that we went unleaded, as the authorities found too much lead in the air, in the cities
It appears that this may have been affecting the brain power of city schoolchildren, in comparrison to the rural schoolchildren
For a few decades I have been using 98. First car had cylinders liners so it was bullet proof, 250k km. Second car, always had fuel filter issues on 91. Second half of its life I used 98. A whisker more economical & no fuel issues. Also 250k km, my mechanic took it from me!
Current car engine can use 91, but is tuned for 95. I always put 98 in it if possible. It gives me more range & works out at the same cost per actual km in fuel cost.
Around Australia I had to buy 91 a couple of times as there was no choice, so my back up of 98 was watered down a bit.
The 98 fuel costs more but you get more range & less maintenance so it is more economical in the long run.
About 20 years after a city anywhere in the world stopped using lead in fuel. Crime rates dropped according.
The Manly Ferry & similar boats are all using bottom of the barrel crap high sulphur fuel with a lot of other toxic elements including heavy metals. Prevailing winds fumigate the population & the community pays the price.
If you have a diesel car & kids at least get them in the car before starting it. Kids being shorter do breath in a higher percentage of toxins from exhaust.
Maybe we need to get some 91 and 95 RONDA fuel to even out the playing field.
The article seems to be assuming that we produce all our own fuel through our own refineries, when only 10% is the fact.
Gday...
A little more background -
https://www.racv.com.au/membership/member-benefits/royalauto/archive/sulfur-in-australia-petrol.html
https://www.caradvice.com.au/714921/why-australia-needs-better-quality-fuel/
Cheers - John
Gday...
Where Strayan petrol is refined - https://www.aip.com.au/resources/australian-crude-production-and-refining
Cheers - John
The industry report quoted suggests the following....
'Much of Australias crude oil production is also of a quality (light sweet) which is very commercially attractive for processing in other countries. Australian refineries require a blend of crude oils to produce the product slate demanded by Australian fuel users'.
Where Wiki and others suggest....
'Sweet crude oil contains small amounts of hydrogen sulfide and carbon dioxide. High-quality, low-sulfur crude oil is commonly used for processing into gasoline and is in high demand, particularly in industrialized nations. Light sweet crude oil is the most sought-after version of crude oil as it contains a disproportionately large fraction that is directly processed (fractionation) into gasoline (naphtha), kerosene, and high-quality diesel (gas oil). The term sweet originates from the fact that a low level of sulfur provides the oil with a mildly sweet taste and pleasant smell. Nineteenth-century prospectors would taste and smell small quantities of oil to determine its quality'.[3]
My Rover mower still starts on the first or second pull of the rope! That's the main thing.