Rarely seen on caravans in my experience. Note that the first link emphasises that if you are under 7.5m you MUST NOT use these signs.
Pretty hard to find a car/caravan rig UNDER 7.5 meters I reckon.
Long Weekend said
08:53 PM Oct 1, 2018
While it is compulsory to have a 'Do Not etc' sign on the back of all vehicles over 7.5m it is only optional for caravans.
That said I believe that once placed on the back of a caravan it has the same legal status as if it were on the back of a bus, semi trailer or whatever.
Therefore, when you swing wide to make a left hand turn and a vehicle comes through on the inside and collides with the van - with the sign the vehicle is at fault.
Without the sign the caravan driver is at fault!
It is also against the law to have the 'Do Not ...' sign on the right hand side of the van (or indeed any long vehicle) as well as the left - contrary to what you sometimes see.
Murray
Dickodownunder said
09:03 PM Oct 1, 2018
@Long Weekend, Can you provide a link to support your statement in the post above that it is illegal to have the Do Not Overtake etc etc. on the right hand side of the vehicle? Immediately the situation of a tight roundabout comes to mind whereby a vehicle may attempt to overtake a combination over 7.5 metres long on the right hand side while that combination is turning right within the roundabout. Having driven heavy combination vehicles for many years I can assure you that this can happen with a disturbing majority of times and many trucks have signs on both sides.
-- Edited by Dickodownunder on Monday 1st of October 2018 09:09:49 PM
yobarr said
09:11 PM Oct 1, 2018
-- Edited by yobarr on Monday 1st of October 2018 09:20:54 PM
It contains this information regarding the placement of signs and which signs are for which application.
Signs that simply state the words "DO NOT OVERTAKE TURNING VEHICLE" for vehicles >7.5m in length are to only be placed on the left hand side of the vehicle.
Cheers - John
Dickodownunder said
09:16 PM Oct 1, 2018
Ok thanks guys.
That can be a bit confusing.
Must a be a few vehicles around that obviously do not comply.
Long Weekend said
09:45 PM Oct 1, 2018
Thanks for that John (Rockylizard) - I knew about the law from several years ago so would have had to search back. Anyway, I have made sure that all my vans (I'm on my third) have the 'Do Not ' signs on the rear left hand side.
As Dickodownunder says, there are a few around with the incorrect signs and the police do not seem to take any notice.
Murray
PeterD said
12:20 PM Oct 2, 2018
One thing to watch - there are/have been plates around that do not conform to the specs provided by Rocky John. Read through those to see the minimum size and what is required to be on the signs. If the sign you have in hand does not conform then don't use it.
dogbox said
01:32 PM Oct 2, 2018
Dickodownunder wrote:
@Long Weekend, Can you provide a link to support your statement in the post above that it is illegal to have the Do Not Overtake etc etc. on the right hand side of the vehicle? Immediately the situation of a tight roundabout comes to mind whereby a vehicle may attempt to overtake a combination over 7.5 metres long on the right hand side while that combination is turning right within the roundabout. Having driven heavy combination vehicles for many years I can assure you that this can happen with a disturbing majority of times and many trucks have signs on both sides.
-- Edited by Dickodownunder on Monday 1st of October 2018 09:09:49 PM
unless things have changed it has always been illegal to overtake in a round about
The Travelling Dillberries said
01:38 PM Oct 2, 2018
Reading all the info below it says the signs with wording only be placed on the left side....nothing to do with overtaking on the right.
The red/yellow signs go an left and right rear of vehicle indicating do not overtake on left or right side.
Clear as mud!!
Aus-Kiwi said
05:24 PM Oct 2, 2018
In most cases you use BOTH lanes so you can turn into tight streets without running onto or overvthe curb . Warns cars NOT to come up the side while turning . I keep back on both sides . Especially semis ..
Delta18 said
07:45 PM Oct 2, 2018
This is how mine are.
<edit> No idea why it is side on, not so on my pc.
-- Edited by Delta18 on Tuesday 2nd of October 2018 07:46:10 PM
@Long Weekend, Can you provide a link to support your statement in the post above that it is illegal to have the Do Not Overtake etc etc. on the right hand side of the vehicle? Immediately the situation of a tight roundabout comes to mind whereby a vehicle may attempt to overtake a combination over 7.5 metres long on the right hand side while that combination is turning right within the roundabout. Having driven heavy combination vehicles for many years I can assure you that this can happen with a disturbing majority of times and many trucks have signs on both sides.
-- Edited by Dickodownunder on Monday 1st of October 2018 09:09:49 PM
unless things have changed it has always been illegal to overtake in a round about
May very well be illegal dogbox but try driving a semi a b double or a road train through a roundabout.
It is amazing what motorists think they can do around a turning articulated vehicle.
I think it is all about getting ahead of the truck at any cost and any amount of signage will not help stupidity.
-- Edited by Dickodownunder on Wednesday 3rd of October 2018 08:12:27 AM
Delta18 said
10:04 AM Oct 3, 2018
dogbox wrote:
Dickodownunder wrote:
@Long Weekend, Can you provide a link to support your statement in the post above that it is illegal to have the Do Not Overtake etc etc. on the right hand side of the vehicle? Immediately the situation of a tight roundabout comes to mind whereby a vehicle may attempt to overtake a combination over 7.5 metres long on the right hand side while that combination is turning right within the roundabout. Having driven heavy combination vehicles for many years I can assure you that this can happen with a disturbing majority of times and many trucks have signs on both sides.
-- Edited by Dickodownunder on Monday 1st of October 2018 09:09:49 PM
unless things have changed it has always been illegal to overtake in a round about
If it is a multi-lane roundabout there is no law against overtaking.
Raylids said
07:51 AM Oct 6, 2018
The discussion on the topic is great but in reality just remember this. "If you try and pass a heavy vehicle on the left hand side when its turning left you wont be overtaking you will end up UNDERTAKING".
Is this of any help?
http://www.lets-getaway.com/overtakingsignageforcaravans.htm
or this
https://thegreynomads.activeboard.com/t49621911/do-not-overtake-stickers/
Rarely seen on caravans in my experience. Note that the first link emphasises that if you are under 7.5m you MUST NOT use these signs.
Gday...
This is the National Code VSB12 - not specifically caravan but gives the regulations on size and placement.
https://www.nhvr.gov.au/files/201806-0849-vsb12-national-code-of-practice-rear-marking-plates.pdf
There is also this -
http://www.australiasomuchtosee.com/qa19.htm
Scroll down to the specific detail where they explain VSB12.
Hope that helps a little.
OH .. and welcome to the forum
Cheers - John
Pretty hard to find a car/caravan rig UNDER 7.5 meters I reckon.
While it is compulsory to have a 'Do Not etc' sign on the back of all vehicles over 7.5m it is only optional for caravans.
That said I believe that once placed on the back of a caravan it has the same legal status as if it were on the back of a bus, semi trailer or whatever.
Therefore, when you swing wide to make a left hand turn and a vehicle comes through on the inside and collides with the van - with the sign the vehicle is at fault.
Without the sign the caravan driver is at fault!
It is also against the law to have the 'Do Not ...' sign on the right hand side of the van (or indeed any long vehicle) as well as the left - contrary to what you sometimes see.
Murray
@Long Weekend,
Can you provide a link to support your statement in the post above that it is illegal to have the Do Not Overtake etc etc. on the right hand side of the vehicle?
Immediately the situation of a tight roundabout comes to mind whereby a vehicle may attempt to overtake a combination over 7.5 metres long on the right hand side while that combination is turning right within the roundabout.
Having driven heavy combination vehicles for many years I can assure you that this can happen with a disturbing majority of times and many trucks have signs on both sides.
-- Edited by Dickodownunder on Monday 1st of October 2018 09:09:49 PM
-- Edited by yobarr on Monday 1st of October 2018 09:20:54 PM
Gday...
I provided this link to VSB12 just before.
https://www.nhvr.gov.au/files/201806-0849-vsb12-national-code-of-practice-rear-marking-plates.pdf
It contains this information regarding the placement of signs and which signs are for which application.
Signs that simply state the words "DO NOT OVERTAKE TURNING VEHICLE" for vehicles >7.5m in length are to only be placed on the left hand side of the vehicle.
Cheers - John
That can be a bit confusing.
Must a be a few vehicles around that obviously do not comply.
Thanks for that John (Rockylizard) - I knew about the law from several years ago so would have had to search back. Anyway, I have made sure that all my vans (I'm on my third) have the 'Do Not ' signs on the rear left hand side.
As Dickodownunder says, there are a few around with the incorrect signs and the police do not seem to take any notice.
Murray
unless things have changed it has always been illegal to overtake in a round about
Reading all the info below it says the signs with wording only be placed on the left side....nothing to do with overtaking on the right.
The red/yellow signs go an left and right rear of vehicle indicating do not overtake on left or right side.
Clear as mud!!
This is how mine are.
<edit> No idea why it is side on, not so on my pc.
-- Edited by Delta18 on Tuesday 2nd of October 2018 07:46:10 PM
May very well be illegal dogbox but try driving a semi a b double or a road train through a roundabout.
It is amazing what motorists think they can do around a turning articulated vehicle.
I think it is all about getting ahead of the truck at any cost and any amount of signage will not help stupidity.
-- Edited by Dickodownunder on Wednesday 3rd of October 2018 08:12:27 AM
If it is a multi-lane roundabout there is no law against overtaking.