I wondered how many people are on restricted medication and how do they manage them? I know some can get a supply of medication for 6 months but others can only get 1 month at a time and in West Australia it is even worse as you have to have seen a pain specialist in the last 12 months which is okay if you have but difficult for those that haven't. I have raised this issue before but that was a few years back now.
In my case we are on an extended trip in W.A for 2 to 3 years so we can have a good look around and I have now hit this snag. I know and understand the reasons behind the ruling but surely it should be a case by case scenario. If you aren't aware of the rules over here as we weren't then it looks like the only thing I can do is go back to S.A and forget about W.A all together which I don't really want to do.
The doctor here can see I'm not a junkie and need my medication so he is trying his best to see if there is a way around it for me by making an appointment to see a pain specialist but all that takes time and I will run out of medication before then. He is unsure whether he can give me another script or he has already exceeded his authority
Why the rules aren't Australia Wide same gets me.
Any Feedback appreciated
Dougwe said
03:39 PM May 29, 2018
Just a thought. Have you thought of possibly fly home to see your doctor then fly back to the 'wild west'? I understang it being costly? but maybe not that much more than strange Specialists for the first time. They are related to charging bulls.
Possum3 said
04:09 PM May 29, 2018
You can have all your medical requirements and treatments listed on My Medical Records www.myhealthrecord.gov.au/ this is a Govt programme that can be accessed by all Hospitals and Doctors that are signed on to scheme. You can access records and obtain prescriptions all Public Hospitals.
Additionally I carry a copy of all my relevant health notes when we travel.
villatranquilla said
09:18 PM May 29, 2018
Possum3 wrote:
You can have all your medical requirements and treatments listed on My Medical Records www.myhealthrecord.gov.au/ this is a Govt programme that can be accessed by all Hospitals and Doctors that are signed on to scheme. You can access records and obtain prescriptions all Public Hospitals. Additionally I carry a copy of all my relevant health notes when we travel.
we have travelled since 2011 and not one of the GP's or hospitals we have been to are using 'my health records' - that is WA QLD and Victoria. Barry sees a GP monthly and both of us have been hospitalised in WA and Vic. best we have found is to carry a letter from your general GP with health issues and current medications listed. Fortunately for us this has been adequate.
Kebbin said
09:26 PM May 29, 2018
I agree with the rules they have, opiates are very addictive, you may not be a junkie as you put it but a lot of people who have been on them for a long time start self medicating.
PeterD said
09:30 PM May 29, 2018
The Personally Controlled Electronic Health Record system is just a method of sharing your health records. It will not overcome the individual state requirements when you travel interstate. It does not override "states rights."
RobC said
09:14 AM May 30, 2018
Im just starting to go through this a pain in the as umm back lol got to ballarat rang 6 docs no way got one and only would give me 1 week. I knew i would hit this garbage . Tried last week to go off but to much pain and the morph withdawles were so bad i have letter wich says please ring my gp any time etc but still problems will have to see how i go as im free camping permanently fishing and painting hope this dosen't put me over the edge
madcart said
12:46 PM May 30, 2018
Hi Dougwe
Thanks for that suggestion. It's not just seeing the specialist for the first time but all the tests they put you through and then at the end say you really need this medication as it's the best in your case Duh I could have told you that.
Cheers
madcart said
12:54 PM May 30, 2018
Hi Kebben
You are right opiates are very addictive but, if there is nothing else that stops the pain what are you supposed to do? When you use them for pain relief it's not like you get high or anything either they just take the pain away. It is the difference of me being bedridden and having no quality of life to one where I can function and enjoy life.
Cheers
Kebbin said
02:13 PM May 30, 2018
I think you really need a pain management course to learn more about pain, medications and exercise. How do you go driving while on your meds?
madcart said
05:10 PM May 30, 2018
Hi Kebbin
Have done numerous pain clinics and courses over the years and I do manage my pain to a certain extent but I still need my medications to assist what I do for myself. I walk and do Pilates exercise as well as meditation all to help me with my pain.
Cheers
TheHeaths said
06:24 PM May 30, 2018
Christine,
no need to explain yourself.
Good luck with finding something that allows you to continue travelling as you would like.
With respect to the rules for medications around this country, unfortunately the system needs to be set to prevent the lowest common denominator harming themselves, and by doing this, it makes it extremely difficult for genuine people such as yourself to work within the systems requirements.
madcart said
05:28 PM Jun 4, 2018
Thanks for you support TheHeaths
Tony Bev said
01:12 AM Jun 5, 2018
Snip from original poster, madcart
Why the rules aren't Australia Wide same gets me.
Any Feedback appreciated
It may be coming Australia wide, same rules
Over here in Western Australia, I had my annual flu shot the other day
Same building as my Doctor, but a separate flu shot clinic, both the wife and I went in together
Doctor remarked (while we getting the flu shot from the nurse), that as I was not on any medication, my wife must be looking after me.
I can only conclude that all Western Australian Doctors, have access to all patients medication, files
beiffe said
10:04 AM Jun 5, 2018
The government health records are useless. i was admitted to hospital for an emergency and I did not have my medication. I was on the myhealth site but the hospital said they did not have the right to access my records and would not give me medication till I could get verification from my local chemist s etc. Took three days before I got medication, so dont trust this site to save you. I have MG and was given lots of dangerous drugs that not only did not give relief but also caused lots of problems as well they were all designed to kill my immune system. the drugs were for Parkinson disease and organ rejection and my prospets were not great. I found after much research that I could use CBD oil which is derived from hemp. I have never smoked so no good some of you jumping on your high horse, but after some searching I found an avenue from the states where I could get the oil that was designed for rubs (Yes that is legal) Now I am drug free and I am as close to normal as I can get and able to function and have a life. I gave up driving before I went on the oil as I could not see for any length of time and then most of that I had severe double vision and foggy vision. Now that is mostly gone. CBD is beneficial for so many ailments it is just that the doctors and the Pharmaceutical companies have not found a way to make money out of it YET.
For pain relief it takes a very short time before you should get some relief and it should remove your arthritic pain etc as well. Plus you may get a lot better sleep and it has no side effects and no opiods etc as well.
Just another avenue for you.
PM me if you want more details only if you are interested in positive things.
Regards
Brian
PeterD said
03:50 PM Jun 5, 2018
beiffe wrote:
The government health records are useless. i was admitted to hospital for an emergency and I did not have my medication. I was on the myhealth site but the hospital said they did not have the right to access my records and would not give me medication till I could get verification from my local chemist s etc.
Brian, There was something about the new changes to the myhealth system the other day on the ABC. Up to now you have had to opt into the system and the records were available to medicos. That was recently changed to you now have to opt out of the system if you do not want your records to on the system. With the introduction of that the medicos can not normally access the system without your permission. When you give permission you also have to hand over your pass-codes to them so they can access your records. If you did not have the pass-codes they would not have been able to access your records. There is a way of getting in if you are in a life threatened state. They can break the seal and access your records, however if they break the seal then whoever does the breaking will be flagged by the system and they will be challenged and asked why they broke in. (My terminology and exact details may be a little off but that is the gist of the current situation.)
-- Edited by PeterD on Tuesday 5th of June 2018 08:22:43 PM
Greg 1 said
09:09 PM Jun 5, 2018
My wife and I carry a letter from our GP explaining what we are on and why. Also gives our GP's contact details. When we need a script just visit a local GP show them the letter and all good.
Have not had an issue so far except in the ACT which has some strange rules. Was not hard to get around just went over the border into NSW.
Both of us are on some pretty heavy pain medication too.
Hi All
I wondered how many people are on restricted medication and how do they manage them? I know some can get a supply of medication for 6 months but others can only get 1 month at a time and in West Australia it is even worse as you have to have seen a pain specialist in the last 12 months which is okay if you have but difficult for those that haven't. I have raised this issue before but that was a few years back now.
In my case we are on an extended trip in W.A for 2 to 3 years so we can have a good look around and I have now hit this snag. I know and understand the reasons behind the ruling but surely it should be a case by case scenario. If you aren't aware of the rules over here as we weren't then it looks like the only thing I can do is go back to S.A and forget about W.A all together which I don't really want to do.
The doctor here can see I'm not a junkie and need my medication so he is trying his best to see if there is a way around it for me by making an appointment to see a pain specialist but all that takes time and I will run out of medication before then. He is unsure whether he can give me another script or he has already exceeded his authority
Why the rules aren't Australia Wide same gets me.
Any Feedback appreciated
Additionally I carry a copy of all my relevant health notes when we travel.
we have travelled since 2011 and not one of the GP's or hospitals we have been to are using 'my health records' - that is WA QLD and Victoria. Barry sees a GP monthly and both of us have been hospitalised in WA and Vic. best we have found is to carry a letter from your general GP with health issues and current medications listed. Fortunately for us this has been adequate.
The Personally Controlled Electronic Health Record system is just a method of sharing your health records. It will not overcome the individual state requirements when you travel interstate. It does not override "states rights."
Im just starting to go through this a pain in the as umm back lol got to ballarat rang 6 docs no way got one and only would give me 1 week. I knew i would hit this garbage . Tried last week to go off but to much pain and the morph withdawles were so bad i have letter wich says please ring my gp any time etc but still problems will have to see how i go as im free camping permanently fishing and painting hope this dosen't put me over the edge
Hi Dougwe
Thanks for that suggestion. It's not just seeing the specialist for the first time but all the tests they put you through and then at the end say you really need this medication as it's the best in your case Duh I could have told you that.
Cheers
Hi Kebben
You are right opiates are very addictive but, if there is nothing else that stops the pain what are you supposed to do? When you use them for pain relief it's not like you get high or anything either they just take the pain away. It is the difference of me being bedridden and having no quality of life to one where I can function and enjoy life.
Cheers
Hi Kebbin
Have done numerous pain clinics and courses over the years and I do manage my pain to a certain extent but I still need my medications to assist what I do for myself. I walk and do Pilates exercise as well as meditation all to help me with my pain.
Cheers
no need to explain yourself.
Good luck with finding something that allows you to continue travelling as you would like.
With respect to the rules for medications around this country, unfortunately the system needs to be set to prevent the lowest common denominator harming themselves, and by doing this, it makes it extremely difficult for genuine people such as yourself to work within the systems requirements.
Thanks for you support TheHeaths
Snip from original poster, madcart
It may be coming Australia wide, same rules
Over here in Western Australia, I had my annual flu shot the other day
Same building as my Doctor, but a separate flu shot clinic, both the wife and I went in together
Doctor remarked (while we getting the flu shot from the nurse), that as I was not on any medication, my wife must be looking after me.
I can only conclude that all Western Australian Doctors, have access to all patients medication, files
For pain relief it takes a very short time before you should get some relief and it should remove your arthritic pain etc as well. Plus you may get a lot better sleep and it has no side effects and no opiods etc as well.
Just another avenue for you.
PM me if you want more details only if you are interested in positive things.
Regards
Brian
Brian, There was something about the new changes to the myhealth system the other day on the ABC. Up to now you have had to opt into the system and the records were available to medicos. That was recently changed to you now have to opt out of the system if you do not want your records to on the system. With the introduction of that the medicos can not normally access the system without your permission. When you give permission you also have to hand over your pass-codes to them so they can access your records. If you did not have the pass-codes they would not have been able to access your records. There is a way of getting in if you are in a life threatened state. They can break the seal and access your records, however if they break the seal then whoever does the breaking will be flagged by the system and they will be challenged and asked why they broke in. (My terminology and exact details may be a little off but that is the gist of the current situation.)
-- Edited by PeterD on Tuesday 5th of June 2018 08:22:43 PM