It was originally reported that the SA taxpayer propped up the deal by 1.5 million dollars. That report says $750000.00
Personally I am sick of propping up businesses in this state with my taxes. I was in various businesses most of my life and I didnt need taxpayers money.
Surely if a govt is going to support a business then support something that will be of benefit. The supporting of making some sugary sweet to add to our obesity problem, particularly with children, is a very poor investment of taxpayers money.
Rant over
Dougwe said
08:58 PM Jan 23, 2018
At least it is still around. Yum. I wish they would bring back the original Polly Waffle. I read somewhere that someone was making a very similar one but only supplying small cafe's or similar
Desert Dweller said
02:57 PM Jan 24, 2018
We love Violet Crumbles, but like Kit Kats, Mars Bars, Flakes, Aero Bars & White Knights they've shrunk to half their original size & their prices have gone through the roof.
We're with Dougwe, losing Polly Waffles was a low blow.
RustyD said
04:10 PM Jan 24, 2018
Desert Dweller wrote:
We love Violet Crumbles, but like Kit Kats, Mars Bars, Flakes, Aero Bars & White Knights they've shrunk to half their original size & their prices have gone through the roof.
We're with Dougwe, losing Polly Waffles was a low blow.
Interesting the bit about size and cost. Watched a documentary recently that says sizes of snack foods have actually gone up and that's one of the reasons we are an overweight nation. The other is we buy a bag of bite-size pieces and eat the lot. In all cases they are convenient and cheap relative to what they were 50 years ago.
In same documentary, a "TV dinner" used be 180gms. The same one today is 400gms and is same % of average wage then and now. Implies two people could share a meal for 1/2 the price.
RustyD said
04:48 PM Jan 24, 2018
My favourite is the MENZ line of stuff in Cheap-as-Chips; Musks, mints & peppermints. I like all 3, Mrs Rusty loves the peppermints.
Actually bought a bag of no-brand chocolate covered honeycomb last week. Was looking for Violet Crumble but none there. But it was absolutely beautiful. We've been putting Violet Crumbles in my son's Christmas presents for just over 30 years.
Desert Dweller said
05:27 AM Jan 25, 2018
RustyD wrote:
Desert Dweller wrote:
We love Violet Crumbles, but like Kit Kats, Mars Bars, Flakes, Aero Bars & White Knights they've shrunk to half their original size & their prices have gone through the roof.
Interesting the bit about size and cost. Watched a documentary recently that says sizes of snack foods have actually gone up and that's one of the reasons we are an overweight nation.
Nothing against you Rusty but that's total rubbish. Did the confectionery companies pay the documentary makers to say that? Or are our hands ten times bigger than they were when we were 12 years old?
Lancelot Link said
02:15 AM Jan 27, 2018
Choo Choo bars, available at the Beechworth Lollie shop! Black lips, black tongue and missing fillings! Also available, Redskins, same deal, Licorice squares, sherbets and a myriad of other stuff us old people should eat because of diabetes. Sod it, the Beechworth Bakery a few doors up has the most delectable pastries full of sweetness, strudels, beestings, snot blocks, custard tarts as well great meat pies. Forget stockpiling pills, go to Beechworth and end it by death by sugar!
RustyD said
01:52 PM Jan 29, 2018
Desert Dweller wrote:
RustyD wrote:
Desert Dweller wrote:
We love Violet Crumbles, but like Kit Kats, Mars Bars, Flakes, Aero Bars & White Knights they've shrunk to half their original size & their prices have gone through the roof.
Interesting the bit about size and cost. Watched a documentary recently that says sizes of snack foods have actually gone up and that's one of the reasons we are an overweight nation.
Nothing against you Rusty but that's total rubbish. Did the confectionery companies pay the documentary makers to say that? Or are our hands ten times bigger than they were when we were 12 years old?
No rubbish. Pure facts.
A 1/4 lb family chocolate bar was 227gm. This eventually became 250gm and was then reduced to 200gm with a cost reduction. It was later increased to 220gm then back to 200gms. However, the family blocks of chocolate today are 350gms. Which is way bigger that 227gms at decimal change over time. The 1/4lb bar was about 25c in 1966. Makes it $1.43 / kg in todays money for a family block. The 350gm so-called family block is $1.43 / kg. Changes in sizes but cost hasn't. The issue the documentary was making was we buy the large economy size and eat it all. The large economy size is bigger but no more expensive per kg.
Regardless of the size snack foods are today the cost still appears to be about the same. Do you eat a bag full of snack sized items, a single serve, or a family size?
-- Edited by RustyD on Monday 29th of January 2018 02:43:50 PM
In early 1966, a 227gm chocolate bar cost 25c. Weekly wage for a 15 year old unskilled worker was $10 (that was me working a vacation job). Worker could buy $10/$0.25 bars = 40 bars = 40 x 227 = 9.08 Kg of chocolate.
Fast forward to 2018. A 350gm bar costs $5. Similar worker gets at least $400 / wk. Thats $400/$5 80 bars = 80 x 350 = 28 Kg of chocolate.
Who cares if there are different size bars available, they are still cheaper than 50 years ago.
There is creative accounting by both the press and manufacturers. Never let perception take over from reality. However, perception is often what counts, not reality.
-- Edited by RustyD on Monday 29th of January 2018 04:09:58 PM
rockylizard said
04:11 PM Jan 29, 2018
Gday...
did you ACTUALLY open and read the links Rusty???
The discussion is not about the buying power of the $ over 50 years
cheers - John
RustyD said
05:43 PM Jan 29, 2018
rockylizard wrote:
Gday...
did you ACTUALLY open and read the links Rusty???
The discussion is not about the buying power of the $ over 50 years
cheers - John
Yep John. Read 3 of the links. Stirring. Food (chocolate) for thought. Did it work?
I read a wikipedia item on Mars bars in the middle of reading your links. They have been produced in every size know to man.
The Violet Crumble bar, beloved by sweet tooths across the country for more than a century, is set to return to Australian hands.
Swiss food giant Nestle has agreed to sell the brand to South Australian confectioner Robern Menz, best known as the manufacturer of FruChocs......
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-11/violet-crumble-sold-by-nestle-to-sa-confectioner/9320134
K.J.
It was originally reported that the SA taxpayer propped up the deal by 1.5 million dollars.
That report says $750000.00
Personally I am sick of propping up businesses in this state with my taxes.
I was in various businesses most of my life and I didnt need taxpayers money.
Surely if a govt is going to support a business then support something that will be of benefit.
The supporting of making some sugary sweet to add to our obesity problem, particularly with children, is a very poor investment of taxpayers money.
Rant over
At least it is still around. Yum. I wish they would bring back the original Polly Waffle. I read somewhere that someone was making a very similar one but only supplying small cafe's or similar
We're with Dougwe, losing Polly Waffles was a low blow.
Interesting the bit about size and cost. Watched a documentary recently that says sizes of snack foods have actually gone up and that's one of the reasons we are an overweight nation. The other is we buy a bag of bite-size pieces and eat the lot. In all cases they are convenient and cheap relative to what they were 50 years ago.
In same documentary, a "TV dinner" used be 180gms. The same one today is 400gms and is same % of average wage then and now. Implies two people could share a meal for 1/2 the price.
Actually bought a bag of no-brand chocolate covered honeycomb last week. Was looking for Violet Crumble but none there. But it was absolutely beautiful. We've been putting Violet Crumbles in my son's Christmas presents for just over 30 years.
No rubbish. Pure facts.
A 1/4 lb family chocolate bar was 227gm. This eventually became 250gm and was then reduced to 200gm with a cost reduction. It was later increased to 220gm then back to 200gms. However, the family blocks of chocolate today are 350gms. Which is way bigger that 227gms at decimal change over time. The 1/4lb bar was about 25c in 1966. Makes it $1.43 / kg in todays money for a family block. The 350gm so-called family block is $1.43 / kg. Changes in sizes but cost hasn't. The issue the documentary was making was we buy the large economy size and eat it all. The large economy size is bigger but no more expensive per kg.
Regardless of the size snack foods are today the cost still appears to be about the same. Do you eat a bag full of snack sized items, a single serve, or a family size?
-- Edited by RustyD on Monday 29th of January 2018 02:43:50 PM
Gday...
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/feb/03/cadbury-shrinks-chocolate-bars-by-10-but-price-stays-the-same-australia
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/jul/24/sweets-are-shrinking-youre-not-imagining-it-ons-tells-shoppers
https://thewest.com.au/business/finance/chocolate-lovers-grumble-as-toblerone-shrinks-ng-ya-122888
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/freddo-frogs-cut-down-to-smaller-size-but-price-has-not-dropped/news-story/f9f68c1440d631b90b53891f5298eb34
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/check-the-fine-print-warn-consumer-advocates-as-food-gets-downsized/news-story/eb0010568b8702f3f3567c8be9139909
Cheers - John
In early 1966, a 227gm chocolate bar cost 25c. Weekly wage for a 15 year old unskilled worker was $10 (that was me working a vacation job). Worker could buy $10/$0.25 bars = 40 bars = 40 x 227 = 9.08 Kg of chocolate.
Fast forward to 2018. A 350gm bar costs $5. Similar worker gets at least $400 / wk. Thats $400/$5 80 bars = 80 x 350 = 28 Kg of chocolate.
Who cares if there are different size bars available, they are still cheaper than 50 years ago.
There is creative accounting by both the press and manufacturers. Never let perception take over from reality. However, perception is often what counts, not reality.
-- Edited by RustyD on Monday 29th of January 2018 04:09:58 PM
Gday...
The discussion is not about the buying power of the $ over 50 years
cheers - John
Yep John. Read 3 of the links. Stirring. Food (chocolate) for thought. Did it work?
I read a wikipedia item on Mars bars in the middle of reading your links. They have been produced in every size know to man.