Showing 'The Grey Nomads' causing chaos on the roads!
Helen
-- Edited by adreamer on Wednesday 3rd of January 2018 08:09:44 PM
Hey Jim said
09:01 PM Jan 3, 2018
Not Guilty,
We have been hold up in D cave since July servicing the lot.
2018 is now in full view. We have a full calendar, just around the corner. Who are they blaming this time. Back packers at it again We suspect.
Jim & Lambie
Desert Dweller said
05:51 AM Jan 4, 2018
We've been home since mid November 2017. What have you lot been doing out there?
Phillipn said
06:08 AM Jan 4, 2018
Channel 9 must be running short of stories.
mezza56 said
07:44 AM Jan 4, 2018
I reckon the rest of driving population are just jealous , cause GN don't have limited time and can take as long as they feel like .
Aus-Kiwi said
08:21 AM Jan 4, 2018
^^ Dead right there ^^
Honey09 said
09:41 AM Jan 4, 2018
Slow news day gone from bagging truckies to now sledging vanners.
Aus-Kiwi said
09:53 AM Jan 4, 2018
Weight loss diet next . Oh then Summernats . Letâs get then rev heads .
Phil C said
12:34 PM Jan 4, 2018
Hi all,
Please dont get me started on ACA. They will (again) put us in a bad light because of a few fools.
Im not even going to watch it, I need to pull my fingernails out.. or more the point, would find that less painful than watching that lot.
Love and peace to all
Hey Jim said
01:10 PM Jan 4, 2018
Phil C wrote:
Hi all,
Please dont get me started on ACA. They will (again) put us in a bad light because of a few fools.
Im not even going to watch it, I need to pull my fingernails out.. or more the point, would find that less painful than watching that lot.
Love and peace to all
"Orr" Go on Phil, You can do it.Watch.We need you to add, to our enjoyment with the aftermarth.
Three cheers For Phil.
Phil C said
01:52 PM Jan 4, 2018
Hey Jim wrote:
Phil C wrote:
Hi all,
Please dont get me started on ACA. They will (again) put us in a bad light because of a few fools.
Im not even going to watch it, I need to pull my fingernails out.. or more the point, would find that less painful than watching that lot.
Love and peace to all
"Orr" Go on Phil, You can do it.Watch.We need you to add, to our enjoyment with the aftermarth.
Three cheers For Phil.
Thanks Jim, but no. Just a matter of principle with me.
RustyD said
01:53 PM Jan 4, 2018
Got involved with ACA/Ch9 in the 90's for about 6 months after they ran a lot of rubbish on the Ford Capri & Louisville. Not very nice and none of it true. Never ever believe an interview where they do not show the interviewer and interviewee in the same picture otherwise it's a cut and past job. They tried to crucify a chap once who had recorded his interview on his phone. He was able to prove that ACA/Ch9 had cut and pasted the interview to Q & A that were not what really happened. Same happened to Ford with ACA/Ch9 at the same time. They promised to clean up their act but that only happened until law cases were settled.
Ge said
04:14 PM Jan 4, 2018
Yes Rusty to true all current affair programs do it, remember the Chris Skase affair the story ACA done in Spain the producer got the arse for that one.
But they will keep on being sensational story tellers as the ad income beats the damage pay outs.
Regards Ge
RustyD said
05:51 PM Jan 4, 2018
Not sure now but the highest advertising fees were charged during 9News & ACA due to the high number of viewers. However as 9News and ACA crucified major corporations they pulled their advertising and 9 were having trouble getting big spenders.
Why let the truth get in the way of a good story?
adreamer said
07:03 PM Jan 4, 2018
The story hasn't even aired yet and you all have an opinion.
Why don't you watch it first. although some people on here will get it all wrong and then argue the point.
Helen
Dickodownunder said
08:14 PM Jan 4, 2018
Well my opinion after watching it is that we as caravanners deserve the poor reputation that we currently have.
To agree that the "wobbles" are normal and worse still, acceptable is disgusting.
Learn to drive, set your combination up correctly and legally, or just stay home.
Phil C said
08:14 PM Jan 4, 2018
I just watched this story on ACA (after I pulled my fingernails out) bit better story this time but still very biased IMHO. Looked like the prangs were a result of excess speed and no ESC.
I sit on 80 to 90KMsper hour. Over and out
Dwilz said
08:20 PM Jan 4, 2018
Most grey nomads travel all year round not just in just in holiday periods anyhow gives them something to bitch about I suppose
-- Edited by Dwilz on Thursday 4th of January 2018 08:21:28 PM
aussie_paul said
08:37 PM Jan 4, 2018
I noticed mostly single axles, BUT wow the speed some were doing.
Aussie Paul.
Hey Jim said
10:14 PM Jan 4, 2018
I was so interested, I forgot to watch it. Just an age thing creeping up on me already.
Did we miss anything.
Aus-Kiwi said
10:19 PM Jan 4, 2018
They cruised the YouTube to find this ? Plus some dash cams . I doubt they are Grey Nomads !
RustyD said
10:26 PM Jan 4, 2018
Watched it. Wasn't the beat up I expected. Speed and bad load distribution appeared to be the issue. Wonder if crappy loads on a trailer carrying such loads as furniture is a bigger issue per user. And it's not just caravans that go 80 in 100 zones in single lane roads and then go 100 when there is a passing lane. Mostly it's cars and it's my biggest beef. Even bigger than those travelling 80 in the right lane on a multi-lane 100/110 road and not moving over.
Peter Rose said
11:59 AM Jan 5, 2018
As usual a collection of spectacular caravan crashes probably taken over a 6 month period or more
Once again no useful information on HOW TO GET OUT OF THE WOBBLE IF IT OCCURS.
They did have an old caravaner telling people how to load and not to speed but no onw seems to tell people how to react if it happens.
IMO
accelerate and use electric finger brake control to straighten up the van then slowly decelerate
DO NOT
Touch foot brake or make any violent turns on the steering
aussie_paul said
01:52 PM Jan 5, 2018
Peter Rose wrote:
As usual a collection of spectacular caravan crashes probably taken over a 6 month period or more Once again no useful information on HOW TO GET OUT OF THE WOBBLE IF IT OCCURS.
They did have an old caravaner telling people how to load and not to speed but no onw seems to tell people how to react if it happens.
IMO accelerate and use electric finger brake control to straighten up the van then slowly decelerate DO NOT Touch foot brake or make any violent turns on the steering
IMHO the quickest save is to touch the brake pedal to activate the van brakes but not the tug brakes.
Aussie Paul.
Peter Rose said
02:41 PM Jan 5, 2018
IMO Paul that would make it worse Electric brakes have a finger slide on the controller This apply s the brakes on the van only which will bring it back in line Thats what it is for ! IMO Touching the foot brake in any way while you are in a wobble is Very Very dangerous !
Eaglemax said
04:41 PM Jan 5, 2018
Peter,
Aussie Paul no doubt has his footbrake lights adjustment so as soon as the brake light comes on the van brakes activate but not the tug brakes.
This has the same result as using the slider but leaving both hands on the steering wheel which I think is safer.
Peter Rose said
05:41 PM Jan 5, 2018
This is why I think we need more in put from experts Looking at the videos it would take more than stabbing your footbrake to get out of those wobbles
Heres one expert
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfeyBxuIZOU
Rasty said
06:24 PM Jan 5, 2018
Hi ,
I would like to add my 10 cents worth on this topic particuarly after seeing the storyon the box.
Most of us have probably had little or no nasty problems occur whilst travelling hopefully for all it stays that way but,
Im a nearly retired (next week)automotive business manager / mechanic for the past 35 years and particularly in areas specialising in brakes ,car ,caravan and truck air systems and owning a 2t Kingdom Kensington.
My point ,over the last few years I have dealt with an increasing number of caravan owners that believe once the controller is fitted that's it hit the road all good ,wrong.
Please all caravaners understand how the controller works ,understand how the manual control works and test it with ten to fifteen km test using only the caravan brakes to stop the vehicle comfortably ,doing this test in itself teaches how to adjust or set the controller although most are automatic sensing these days .
As an example a customer came to me a couple of weeks ago with a Prado ,every time he went down the Clyde mountain to the south coast and came back he had cooked brakes......Brake controller was set at 1.5 v auto or not that's as far as it goes,2.t van.
For those that don't know you can also ,if you can keep cool of head,use the manual control to settle a swaying van whilst the tug is pulling.
Probably not news to most but please the simple things save you heartache etc,just reaquaint elves with your system.
Lastly with the van unhooked how many of you have tested your Breakaway system,simple as pulling a plug,
Happy travels ,I we will be on road from end Feb for 5 months and can't wait
Dickodownunder said
08:11 PM Jan 5, 2018
Rasty wrote:
Hi ,
I would like to add my 10 cents worth on this topic particuarly after seeing the storyon the box.
Most of us have probably had little or no nasty problems occur whilst travelling hopefully for all it stays that way but,
Im a nearly retired (next week)automotive business manager / mechanic for the past 35 years and particularly in areas specialising in brakes ,car ,caravan and truck air systems and owning a 2t Kingdom Kensington.
My point ,over the last few years I have dealt with an increasing number of caravan owners that believe once the controller is fitted that's it hit the road all good ,wrong.
Please all caravaners understand how the controller works ,understand how the manual control works and test it with ten to fifteen km test using only the caravan brakes to stop the vehicle comfortably ,doing this test in itself teaches how to adjust or set the controller although most are automatic sensing these days .
As an example a customer came to me a couple of weeks ago with a Prado ,every time he went down the Clyde mountain to the south coast and came back he had cooked brakes......Brake controller was set at 1.5 v auto or not that's as far as it goes,2.t van.
For those that don't know you can also ,if you can keep cool of head,use the manual control to settle a swaying van whilst the tug is pulling.
Probably not news to most but please the simple things save you heartache etc,just reaquaint elves with your system.
Lastly with the van unhooked how many of you have tested your Breakaway system,simple as pulling a plug,
Happy travels ,I we will be on road from end Feb for 5 months and can't wait
Thanks for a great post Rasty,
There is not much more than can be said...safety comes from understanding how all things caravan work.
Education of the ignorant is the only way that the dangers of towing a van will be recognised by those who think they know.
montie said
06:55 AM Jan 6, 2018
There are two measures that reduce the risk of sway.
1) Make sure the tug weighs more than the van. Many sway situations and rollovers are caused by the"tail wagging the dog".
2) First time vanners should be required to take a tow ed course before they set off.
Mr Jones drove his Camry to work for 25 years.....retires and buys himself a 6 tonne combination tug and van and off he goes.....no idea what he is doing and learning from experience!
Showing 'The Grey Nomads' causing chaos on the roads!
Helen
-- Edited by adreamer on Wednesday 3rd of January 2018 08:09:44 PM
Not Guilty,
We have been hold up in D cave since July servicing the lot.
2018 is now in full view. We have a full calendar, just around the corner.
Who are they blaming this time.
Back packers at it again We suspect.
Jim & Lambie
We've been home since mid November 2017. What have you lot been doing out there?
Channel 9 must be running short of stories.
I reckon the rest of driving population are just jealous , cause GN don't have limited time and can take as long as they feel like .
Please dont get me started on ACA. They will (again) put us in a bad light because of a few fools.
Im not even going to watch it, I need to pull my fingernails out.. or more the point, would find that less painful than watching that lot.
Love and peace to all
"Orr" Go on Phil, You can do it.Watch.We need you to add, to our enjoyment with the aftermarth.
Three cheers For Phil.
Thanks Jim, but no. Just a matter of principle with me.
But they will keep on being sensational story tellers as the ad income beats the damage pay outs.
Regards Ge
Why let the truth get in the way of a good story?
The story hasn't even aired yet and you all have an opinion.
Why don't you watch it first. although some people on here will get it all wrong and then argue the point.
Helen
To agree that the "wobbles" are normal and worse still, acceptable is disgusting.
Learn to drive, set your combination up correctly and legally, or just stay home.
I sit on 80 to 90KMsper hour. Over and out
Most grey nomads travel all year round not just in just in holiday periods anyhow gives them something to bitch about I suppose
-- Edited by Dwilz on Thursday 4th of January 2018 08:21:28 PM
I noticed mostly single axles, BUT wow the speed some were doing.
Aussie Paul.
I was so interested, I forgot to watch it.
Just an age thing creeping up on me already.
Did we miss anything.
Once again no useful information on HOW TO GET OUT OF THE WOBBLE IF IT OCCURS.
They did have an old caravaner telling people how to load and not to speed but no onw seems to tell people how to react if it happens.
IMO
accelerate and use electric finger brake control to straighten up the van then slowly decelerate
DO NOT
Touch foot brake or make any violent turns on the steering
IMHO the quickest save is to touch the brake pedal to activate the van brakes but not the tug brakes.
Aussie Paul.
IMO Paul that would make it worse
Electric brakes have a finger slide on the controller This apply s the brakes on the van only which will bring it back in line
Thats what it is for !
IMO Touching the foot brake in any way while you are in a wobble is Very Very dangerous !
This is why I think we need more in put from experts
Looking at the videos it would take more than stabbing your footbrake to get out of those wobbles
Heres one expert
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfeyBxuIZOU
Hi ,
I would like to add my 10 cents worth on this topic particuarly after seeing the storyon the box.
Most of us have probably had little or no nasty problems occur whilst travelling hopefully for all it stays that way but,
Im a nearly retired (next week)automotive business manager / mechanic for the past 35 years and particularly in areas specialising in brakes ,car ,caravan and truck air systems and owning a 2t Kingdom Kensington.
My point ,over the last few years I have dealt with an increasing number of caravan owners that believe once the controller is fitted that's it hit the road all good ,wrong.
Please all caravaners understand how the controller works ,understand how the manual control works and test it with ten to fifteen km test using only the caravan brakes to stop the vehicle comfortably ,doing this test in itself teaches how to adjust or set the controller although most are automatic sensing these days .
As an example a customer came to me a couple of weeks ago with a Prado ,every time he went down the Clyde mountain to the south coast and came back he had cooked brakes......Brake controller was set at 1.5 v auto or not that's as far as it goes,2.t van.
For those that don't know you can also ,if you can keep cool of head,use the manual control to settle a swaying van whilst the tug is pulling.
Probably not news to most but please the simple things save you heartache etc,just reaquaint elves with your system.
Lastly with the van unhooked how many of you have tested your Breakaway system,simple as pulling a plug,
Happy travels ,I we will be on road from end Feb for 5 months and can't wait
Thanks for a great post Rasty,
There is not much more than can be said...safety comes from understanding how all things caravan work.
Education of the ignorant is the only way that the dangers of towing a van will be recognised by those who think they know.
1) Make sure the tug weighs more than the van. Many sway situations and rollovers are caused by the"tail wagging the dog".
2) First time vanners should be required to take a tow ed course before they set off.
Mr Jones drove his Camry to work for 25 years.....retires and buys himself a 6 tonne combination tug and van and off he goes.....no idea what he is doing and learning from experience!