-- Edited by montie on Friday 15th of December 2017 01:55:57 PM
mr glassies said
07:16 PM Dec 15, 2017
If it happens %100 yep will be good but doubt if it will be held to the point .
Dibs
madaboutled said
08:59 PM Dec 15, 2017
Don't hold your breath, what ever is adopted in other states NSW Transport will go backwards on. Queensland moved to Australian Standards in 2012 for Vehicle modifications which NSW signed off on, but NSW won't recognise any modification not done in NSW. My official reply was "Sorry its not done to NSW Australian Standards, it will have to be re-engineered again".
Tony Bev said
09:09 PM Dec 15, 2017
It would be good if they can put in the standards, that a low voltage (12 VDC), wiring diagram, must be made available
It would save a lot of problems out the bush, where Auto Electricians, are thin on the ground
montie said
10:10 PM Dec 15, 2017
Road Vehicle Standards Act is a federal regulation.
States will have no choice..they must comply as they do now with the 1989 Act.
This regulation has been in place for the issuance of compliance plates for motorhomes for a number of years and is now being extended to include caravans. Every manufacturer will be required to submit a prototype of a model to the Dept of Infrastructure before a compliance plate for that particular model will be issued. Approvals will be reliant upon compliance with amongst other things weights and weight distribution.
This is a major step forward for consumers and the industry and is long overdue.
Yuglamron said
10:03 AM Dec 16, 2017
Sounds good on paper and should be National compliance for all ADR's.
Big drawback no-one enforces those ADR's.
Take just one ADR that is different in each state.
LED Lightbars.
Qld's ADR,
Says no light bars on top of Bullbars. No Forward facing light bars on the rear half of a vehicle. Spotlights and Light bars not to be visible from the Driver's view. Spotlights and Light Bars not to protrude beyond the foremost part of the Bull Bar. Quite a few more but you get my drift.
Just drive down any road in Qld and see how many vehicle do not comply with this one ADR.
One K over the speed limit and you will be done. Drive by a copper with a vehicle that does not comply with ADR's. Chances are pretty remote that anything will be done.
My gripe over.
montie said
11:26 AM Dec 16, 2017
Yuglamron wrote:
Sounds good on paper and should be National compliance for all ADR's.
Big drawback no-one enforces those ADR's.
Take just one ADR that is different in each state.
LED Lightbars.
Qld's ADR,
Says no light bars on top of Bullbars. No Forward facing light bars on the rear half of a vehicle. Spotlights and Light bars not to be visible from the Driver's view. Spotlights and Light Bars not to protrude beyond the foremost part of the Bull Bar. Quite a few more but you get my drift.
Just drive down any road in Qld and see how many vehicle do not comply with this one ADR.
One K over the speed limit and you will be done. Drive by a copper with a vehicle that does not comply with ADR's. Chances are pretty remote that anything will be done.
My gripe over.
How it will work is the prototype is submitted for approval by Dept of Infractructure, they will make any necessary required changes. All subsequent vans of this model must be built as per prototype.
This will now give RVMAP some power to ensure that manufacturers comply as they will dob in any non complying builder to the Dept.
It should also weed out some of the cowboys building sub standard vans because they simply will not get compliance plates for them.
A big step in the right direction for consumers
brickies said
10:52 PM Dec 16, 2017
You can't help some people Montie
dabbler said
01:18 AM Dec 17, 2017
Yuglamron, ADRs aren't always enforced but they are still enforced. Just like policing speed limits sometimes are, sometimes aren't.
Join any 4x4 group on social media and you soon hear the stories of enforcement. There was a mini blitz aimed at 4x4 earlier this week on the Centenary Highway near Indoorpilly.
Woody n Sue said
08:44 AM Dec 17, 2017
Has anyone been able to find the weight that diferentiates a light trailer from a heavy trailer
As I cant seem too .
Woody
Dougwe said
09:02 AM Dec 17, 2017
Yeh!
It will be the heavier one mate
rockylizard said
09:03 AM Dec 17, 2017
Woody n Sue wrote:
Has anyone been able to find the weight that diferentiates a light trailer from a heavy trailer As I cant seem too . Woody
But, nothing will really changed for caravans because they fall under the classification of 'Light Trailer'.
Manufacturers will continue to 'self assess' as they do now.
<quote> Under the RVSA, trailer manufacturers supplying more than four vehicles to the Australian market in a 12 month period will need to register with the Department and obtain a type approval for that model of trailer. This type approval will essentially be a self-declaration by the manufacturer that the trailer under that type approval complies with the applicable standards. This approval will be subject to the same conditions as any other vehicle type approval (i.e. requirement to be able to provide access to manufacturing and design facilities). </quote>
montie said
07:18 AM Dec 18, 2017
Hylife wrote:
But, nothing will really changed for caravans because they fall under the classification of 'Light Trailer'.
Manufacturers will continue to 'self assess' as they do now.
<quote> Under the RVSA, trailer manufacturers supplying more than four vehicles to the Australian market in a 12 month period will need to register with the Department and obtain a type approval for that model of trailer. This type approval will essentially be a self-declaration by the manufacturer that the trailer under that type approval complies with the applicable standards. This approval will be subject to the same conditions as any other vehicle type approval (i.e. requirement to be able to provide access to manufacturing and design facilities). </quote>
Yes, but they have to obtain a type approval before they will be issued a compliance plate. Up to now there were no standards other than VSB1 and, unlike motor homes, no type approval was necessary. There will now be a specific standard for each model with which all manufacturers must comply and a lot easier for RVMAP and others to police.
Great news for the consumer and the industry.
https://infrastructure.gov.au/vehicles/mv_standards_act/files/Info_Sheet_9_Light_and_Heavy_Trailers.pdf
https://www.caravanindustry.com.au/new-road-vehicle-safety-act-to-be-introduced
-- Edited by montie on Friday 15th of December 2017 01:55:57 PM
Dibs
Don't hold your breath, what ever is adopted in other states NSW Transport will go backwards on. Queensland moved to Australian Standards in 2012 for Vehicle modifications which NSW signed off on, but NSW won't recognise any modification not done in NSW. My official reply was "Sorry its not done to NSW Australian Standards, it will have to be re-engineered again".
It would save a lot of problems out the bush, where Auto Electricians, are thin on the ground
Road Vehicle Standards Act is a federal regulation.
States will have no choice..they must comply as they do now with the 1989 Act.
This regulation has been in place for the issuance of compliance plates for motorhomes for a number of years and is now being extended to include caravans. Every manufacturer will be required to submit a prototype of a model to the Dept of Infrastructure before a compliance plate for that particular model will be issued. Approvals will be reliant upon compliance with amongst other things weights and weight distribution.
This is a major step forward for consumers and the industry and is long overdue.
Sounds good on paper and should be National compliance for all ADR's.
Big drawback no-one enforces those ADR's.
Take just one ADR that is different in each state.
LED Lightbars.
Qld's ADR,
Says no light bars on top of Bullbars. No Forward facing light bars on the rear half of a vehicle. Spotlights and Light bars not to be visible from the Driver's view. Spotlights and Light Bars not to protrude beyond the foremost part of the Bull Bar. Quite a few more but you get my drift.
Just drive down any road in Qld and see how many vehicle do not comply with this one ADR.
One K over the speed limit and you will be done. Drive by a copper with a vehicle that does not comply with ADR's. Chances are pretty remote that anything will be done.
My gripe over.
As I cant seem too .
Woody
Yeh!
It will be the heavier one mate
Gday...
https://infrastructure.gov.au/roads/vehicle_regulation/bulletin/vsb1/vsb_01_b.aspx
Cheers - John
But, nothing will really changed for caravans because they fall under the classification of 'Light Trailer'.
Manufacturers will continue to 'self assess' as they do now.
<quote>
Under the RVSA, trailer manufacturers supplying more than four vehicles to the Australian market in a 12 month period will need to register with the Department and obtain a type approval for that model of trailer. This type approval will essentially be a self-declaration by the manufacturer that the trailer under that type approval complies with the applicable standards. This approval will be subject to the same conditions as any other vehicle type approval (i.e. requirement to be able to provide access to manufacturing and design facilities).
</quote>
Yes, but they have to obtain a type approval before they will be issued a compliance plate. Up to now there were no standards other than VSB1 and, unlike motor homes, no type approval was necessary. There will now be a specific standard for each model with which all manufacturers must comply and a lot easier for RVMAP and others to police.