This is unbelievable. Someone put a lot of effort into this.
Ron-D said
01:14 AM Dec 1, 2017
Thanks possum early aviation especially the First World War is a passion with me...
RustyD said
09:28 AM Dec 1, 2017
Early this year drove nearly 1000kms with two friends. They talked planes most of the way. I will be sending them these links.
Possum3 said
09:46 AM Dec 1, 2017
It's a pity that the Yanks are only gazing at their own navels - They don't mention Boomerangs, Wirraways, Woomeras, Wacket, Peka, Jindavick, Beaufighters (Whispering Death), Mosquito, Interceptor CA13, CAC Sabres, etc
-- Edited by RustyD on Friday 1st of December 2017 03:54:14 PM
PeterD said
11:17 PM Dec 1, 2017
It is just a typical Americanocentric piece typical of something they produce.
Cupie said
12:13 AM Dec 4, 2017
Thanks for that ... a lot of work to produce that large volume of interesting reading, despite it's understandable USA bias. A US body of work for US consumption no doubt, but good stuff none the less.
They were of course one of the MAJOR players, once they joined the fray and as such are entitled to skite a bit .. in the usual American way.
Thanks for posting it.
Ron-D said
04:29 PM Dec 4, 2017
european theater of war only had yanks in it no spitfires no Battle of Britain the author missed the main bit...
iana said
06:50 PM Dec 4, 2017
The European theatre was on the offensive, Spitfires were pretty useless for this task. Typhoons, Tempests and Mosquitos were used though. They needed aircraft that had range and could carry something, like rockets or bombs.
Lancelot Link said
02:15 AM Dec 5, 2017
We all know the Yanks won the wars, first and second, by all the movies they produced. I just hope Donald Trump averts the next World War!
RustyD said
06:30 PM Dec 5, 2017
The Yanks sent the Poms a bill for WW2. They only paid it off in 2006.
The European theatre was on the offensive, Spitfires were pretty useless for this task. Typhoons, Tempests and Mosquitos were used though. They needed aircraft that had range and could carry something, like rockets or bombs.
I believe that England is in Europe and the spitfire came in handy in the Battle of Britain, the greatest plane of them all that won the war finally was the mustang ,it was far superior to anything else in the air and had the fuel range to support the bombers over Germany...
Cupie said
09:43 AM Dec 6, 2017
Looks like the Yanks had a very large role in developing the Mustang too.
I recall seeing several of them at RAAF base Amberley post war. Few if any Spitfires & later lots of Wirraways (Trainers?)
North American Aviation originally designed the Mustang in response to a British specification. They agreed to produce the first prototype only 4 months after signing the contract in April 1940.
By the end of 1941 North American had delivered the first Mustang to England for test flights. These first Mustangs were powered by the Allison V-1710 engine, a good engine, but one which didn't operate well at high altitudes.
A Better Engine
In April, 1942, a British test pilot, Ronald Harker, flew the Mustang and was very impressed by it. He suggested that the new plane would be a natural fit with the Rolls Royce Merlin 60-series engine, well-suited to high altitudes. At the prodding of Major Thomas Hitch****, the Americans began working along the same lines (using the Packard license-built version of the Merlin), and the first Merlin-equipped Mustang, the P-51B, flew in November, 1942. The results were impressive, to say the least. At 30,000 feet, the improved Mustang reached 440 MPH, almost 100 MPH faster than the Allison-equipped Mustang at that altitude.
iana said
03:00 PM Dec 6, 2017
The P51 generally considered as one of the best fighter aircraft of ww2, there were a lot of good aircraft at that time. The Mustang was no good for navel operations, as ditching that aircraft was a death sentence for the pilot, on account of the oil cooler intake under the fuse.
Unless it was a bad aircraft, they all had attributes, when used to their advantage gave an upper hand. The Americans were able to produce practical aircraft to maintain, flying was not the only thing that made an aircraft good, it had to be able to take damage, and be easily maintained.
My dealings with British aircraft of that era, was they were complicated and hard to maintain.
Ron-D said
08:24 AM Dec 7, 2017
Just like there cars
iana said
08:46 AM Dec 9, 2017
Did you know they tried a Spitfire with different wings, renamed the Spitful, the performance increase was minimal, so it wasn't produced in numbers.
Even if you are not into this you might want to pass this treasure trove on to others who are.
Aviation Pioneers
World War I Aces
Hall of Fame of the Air
WW2 European Theater (ETO)
WW2 Pacific Theater (PTO)
WW2 US Marine Corps
WW2 US Navy Aces
WW2 Mediterranean (MTO)
WW2 German Aces
Korean War Aces
Russian Aces
Vietnam Era Aces
Airplanes
World War I Planes
1930s Aircraft photos
WW2 Fighters
WW2 Bombers
WW2 German Planes
WW2 Airplane Pictures
History of Airplanes blog
Nose Art
Postwar Jets
World War Two
WW2 Facts and Firsts
WW2 Medals
WW2 Museums
WW2 Pictures
WW2 Ships
WW2 Weapons
This is unbelievable. Someone put a lot of effort into this.
Thanks possum early aviation especially the First World War is a passion with me...
One of my 1000kms passengers was involved in this en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ansett_Airlines_Flight_232 as an apprentice aircraft mechanic.
-- Edited by RustyD on Friday 1st of December 2017 03:54:14 PM
Thanks for that ... a lot of work to produce that large volume of interesting reading, despite it's understandable USA bias. A US body of work for US consumption no doubt, but good stuff none the less.
They were of course one of the MAJOR players, once they joined the fray and as such are entitled to skite a bit .. in the usual American way.
Thanks for posting it.
european theater of war only had yanks in it no spitfires no Battle of Britain the author missed the main bit...
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6215847.stm
I believe that England is in Europe and the spitfire came in handy in the Battle of Britain, the greatest plane of them all that won the war finally was the mustang ,it was far superior to anything else in the air and had the fuel range to support the bombers over Germany...
Looks like the Yanks had a very large role in developing the Mustang too.
I recall seeing several of them at RAAF base Amberley post war. Few if any Spitfires & later lots of Wirraways (Trainers?)
North American P-51 Mustang
Generally considered the best fighter of WWII
By Stephen Sherman, Apr. 2002. Updated Sept. 26, 2012.
North American Aviation originally designed the Mustang in response to a British specification. They agreed to produce the first prototype only 4 months after signing the contract in April 1940.
By the end of 1941 North American had delivered the first Mustang to England for test flights. These first Mustangs were powered by the Allison V-1710 engine, a good engine, but one which didn't operate well at high altitudes.
A Better Engine
In April, 1942, a British test pilot, Ronald Harker, flew the Mustang and was very impressed by it. He suggested that the new plane would be a natural fit with the Rolls Royce Merlin 60-series engine, well-suited to high altitudes. At the prodding of Major Thomas Hitch****, the Americans began working along the same lines (using the Packard license-built version of the Merlin), and the first Merlin-equipped Mustang, the P-51B, flew in November, 1942. The results were impressive, to say the least. At 30,000 feet, the improved Mustang reached 440 MPH, almost 100 MPH faster than the Allison-equipped Mustang at that altitude.
Unless it was a bad aircraft, they all had attributes, when used to their advantage gave an upper hand. The Americans were able to produce practical aircraft to maintain, flying was not the only thing that made an aircraft good, it had to be able to take damage, and be easily maintained.
My dealings with British aircraft of that era, was they were complicated and hard to maintain.
Just like there cars