I heard, recently, that some National Parks do not allow caravans that do not have a grey water storage facility. Responses with your experiences with this would be welcome.
-- Edited by GrouchyGrandma on Sunday 12th of November 2017 06:16:52 PM
macka17 said
06:28 PM Nov 12, 2017
The whole country is getting that way.
Some do. Some don't.
you find out when you get there.
As long as you have a 20ltr drum with spout to accept end of sink drain. You fine.
Some use single\double length\s of 4in\6in\8in sewer pipe (Under Chassis/ Under sink.
with end fittings to suit and drain tap outside.
Look on net.
Some install extra water tank under. Basically move water from one tank to another.
Relax-n said
08:49 AM Nov 13, 2017
We have just recently completed our first big trip and found that it is not just national parks.
There are a lot of free and low cost camps that are specifying "fully self contained" including "no release of sullage onto the ground"
As Macka17 suggested, we carry a 20lt bottle and short piece of hose for these times. When we leave the cap goes back on and then it's emptied at the next dump point.
The only issue with this is you need to really limit having showers.......
GrouchyGrandma said
10:20 AM Nov 13, 2017
Thank you for the feedback. Some very good ideas that I hadn't given much thought to, as we are so new to caravanning. Not having an ensuite in our van means we only have to dispose of kitchen sink water, so a 20 litre container would be ideal.
briche said
10:53 AM Nov 13, 2017
Hi Grouchy grandma, it's always been a difficult thing to deal with. If you type Grey water Tanks into the search space you will get a list of comments about the issue. If you look under my name briche you will see. Photo of how we sorted the matter. Hope it helps in your journey in this great country.
Brian
briche
-- Edited by briche on Monday 13th of November 2017 10:54:01 AM
Ge said
12:14 PM Nov 13, 2017
Hi Grouchy grandma, i agree with Macka 17 and Relax -n.
I do the same as them as my van is 30yrs old, what i do find is places with signs must be "fully self contained" are a bit funny. These places have "fully self contained" yet have dump points, toilets/showers ect. There are places in camps 9 book like that.
What i find is these places just follow like sheep and don't understand whats required also there is confusion in the whole caravan and camping industry a bit like Centrelink same question asked to five people and five different answers, (of topic) Saw a program on ABC the other week on recycling waste, stated 80/90% of Shire's/councils have no idea what is recyclable. The world is full of sheep.
The end it's down to each camp site and the person who make's the rules and there is a lot of small minded people out there who do it just because they can/
Viva the revolution.
-- Edited by Ge on Monday 13th of November 2017 12:42:29 PM
-- Edited by Ge on Monday 13th of November 2017 12:44:21 PM
Tony Bev said
02:00 PM Nov 13, 2017
GrouchyGrandma wrote:
I heard, recently, that some National Parks do not allow caravans that do not have a grey water storage facility. Responses with your experiences with this would be welcome.
-- Edited by GrouchyGrandma on Sunday 12th of November 2017 06:16:52 PM
May I be one of the first, to welcome both you, and your hubby, to the forum, GrouchyGrandma
I can only talk about the National (State) parks in the South West, of Western Australia
These parks are usually low (senior) cost, of about $7 per person per night
They are very basic, having only drop toilets and a skip bin
They are set out in bays, with a permanent camp fire area (within the bay), and wood stockpiled
Some bays are for caravans, others are for camper trailers There is usually a larger area set out for tents or groups
To my knowledge there are no self contained restrictions I am sure that other campers, would not appreciate people dropping water in the bays, (perhaps making them muddy)
Putting water in the drop toilets is a no, no
I usually take my grey water (by bucket), and give selected trees/bushes a drink, well away from the bays
toglhot said
05:54 PM Nov 16, 2017
Isn't it extraordinary, in some states when water levels are low they encourage you to collect water whilst you're showering, divert washing machine and dishwashing water to gardens and so on but, you can't use gray water to water the ground in NPs. I recycle our gray water from the house and the gardens love it.
dabbler said
06:14 PM Nov 16, 2017
Grey water disposal at home and while camping aren't really the same. At home, you have control where each load goes, you know what was in the tank and you probably don't pitch a tent. While camping you are often limited to fixed spots, you don't know where the last load was dumped or what was in it and when you leave the next person could very well be me in my swag. If you want to enjoy NP forever then consider the management rules are in place for just that very reason.
I heard, recently, that some National Parks do not allow caravans that do not have a grey water storage facility. Responses with your experiences with this would be welcome.
-- Edited by GrouchyGrandma on Sunday 12th of November 2017 06:16:52 PM
Some do. Some don't.
you find out when you get there.
As long as you have a 20ltr drum with spout to accept end of sink drain. You fine.
Some use single\double length\s of 4in\6in\8in sewer pipe (Under Chassis/ Under sink.
with end fittings to suit and drain tap outside.
Look on net.
Some install extra water tank under. Basically move water from one tank to another.
There are a lot of free and low cost camps that are specifying "fully self contained" including "no release of sullage onto the ground"
As Macka17 suggested, we carry a 20lt bottle and short piece of hose for these times. When we leave the cap goes back on and then it's emptied at the next dump point.
The only issue with this is you need to really limit having showers.......
Thank you for the feedback. Some very good ideas that I hadn't given much thought to, as we are so new to caravanning. Not having an ensuite in our van means we only have to dispose of kitchen sink water, so a 20 litre container would be ideal.
Hi Grouchy grandma, it's always been a difficult thing to deal with. If you type Grey water Tanks into the search space you will get a list of comments about the issue. If you look under my name briche you will see. Photo of how we sorted the matter. Hope it helps in your journey in this great country.
Brian
briche
-- Edited by briche on Monday 13th of November 2017 10:54:01 AM
Hi Grouchy grandma, i agree with Macka 17 and Relax -n.
I do the same as them as my van is 30yrs old, what i do find is places with signs must be "fully self contained" are a bit funny.
These places have "fully self contained" yet have dump points, toilets/showers ect. There are places in camps 9 book like that.
What i find is these places just follow like sheep and don't understand whats required also there is confusion in the whole caravan and camping industry
a bit like Centrelink same question asked to five people and five different answers, (of topic) Saw a program on ABC the other week on recycling waste,
stated 80/90% of Shire's/councils have no idea what is recyclable. The world is full of sheep.
The end it's down to each camp site and the person who make's the rules and there is a lot of small minded people out there who do it just because they can/
Viva the revolution.
-- Edited by Ge on Monday 13th of November 2017 12:42:29 PM
-- Edited by Ge on Monday 13th of November 2017 12:44:21 PM
May I be one of the first, to welcome both you, and your hubby, to the forum, GrouchyGrandma
I can only talk about the National (State) parks in the South West, of Western Australia
These parks are usually low (senior) cost, of about $7 per person per night
They are very basic, having only drop toilets and a skip bin
They are set out in bays, with a permanent camp fire area (within the bay), and wood stockpiled
Some bays are for caravans, others are for camper trailers
There is usually a larger area set out for tents or groups
To my knowledge there are no self contained restrictions
I am sure that other campers, would not appreciate people dropping water in the bays, (perhaps making them muddy)
Putting water in the drop toilets is a no, no
I usually take my grey water (by bucket), and give selected trees/bushes a drink, well away from the bays