any info on the availability of e10 around the country. Im towing with a Prado 4 litre petrol.
Cupie said
10:10 AM Oct 20, 2017
Llyod .... Let me be the first to welcome you to the forum. I hope you enjoy the experience.
To your question. I presume that you are referring to the more far flung areas.
Can't answer that as I never use E10 & therefore don't look out for it. Certainly in the major Qld towns/cities it is readily available.
If not then standard unleaded is always available. For me it is still a better choice on a cost/usage basis.
I suppose in some 'communities' the alternative Opal is available & there may be areas where the standard fuel is Diesel. I don't go to remote locations so I can't help there either.
Perhaps some more background info on your intended travel route may bring more useful information.
As a general rule I have found that where there is sealed road there is a choice of suitable Petrol.
Dick0 said
04:32 PM Oct 20, 2017
Welcome!
Your best bet is to download the app "Fuel Map Australia", which will advise E10 and all other fuels availability and current/recent prices.
Moose2 said
07:31 AM Oct 21, 2017
Have you actually checked how E10 goes in your vehicle? In my LandCruiser it is absolute rubbish - at least 25% less kms per tank. Definitely not economical for me.
PeterD said
09:58 AM Oct 21, 2017
Try this site. If you do a survey around Oz you will see it's only a NSW and Qld thing. Even then you will find it gets rare out in the bush.
JayDee said
10:09 AM Oct 21, 2017
If Honda Gennie recommends unleaded fuel only, then that is good enough for us to only use unleaded in our two vehicles.
My mechanic says to only use unleaded.
Oh!!!! yes we do not have a diesel vehicle.
Jay&Dee
SouthernComfort said
10:14 AM Oct 21, 2017
Moose2 wrote:
Have you actually checked how E10 goes in your vehicle? In my LandCruiser it is absolute rubbish - at least 25% less kms per tank. Definitely not economical for me.
I think that's likely in many vehicles. IMO there is little point in using E10 given its higher consumption rate. I estimate the price would need to be around 20-30% cheaper than 91ulp to be of any real benefit. A mere 2 or 3c p/l difference doesn't make sense. E10 doesn't have the same cleaning properties either, so muckier engines over long term use.
-- Edited by SouthernComfort on Saturday 21st of October 2017 10:15:46 AM
Aus-Kiwi said
10:43 AM Oct 21, 2017
I add some when driving long distance or when theres 10c difference in price which is not very often . Reason I use it is to clean fuel system . What I find is over time a varnish from unleaded sticks to tank and fuel lines . Then when you have to or accidentally top up with E10 it cleans lines etc and blocks filter etc . Also if there is any water in Bottom of tank ? It will mix and be picked up . Water is what does most damage when mixed with ethanol. So use a little often or NOT at all !! Most Jap engines can run on it . 8 or so older Euro engines are not tuned to run on it ! 2003 Ford Focus though GREAT little car ( 400,000klrs) just wonât run on it !! Unless there is 10c cheaper ? The extra fuel usage doesnt make it a budget fuel . But then I think . Unleaded isnât going to last forever and yes our farmer get some $$ Atleast Aussies are getting some earning from it . Not that petrol co are taking the most . Wouldnt be so bad if E fuels where in competition to petrol companies .E10 is usually 94 octane rating .,
-- Edited by Aus-Kiwi on Saturday 21st of October 2017 10:48:15 AM
-- Edited by Aus-Kiwi on Saturday 21st of October 2017 10:49:41 AM
SouthernComfort said
01:23 PM Oct 21, 2017
Probably straying somewhat from the OP's question, but I reckon by the time petrol runs out electric will be the real alternative . Ethanol is really a second rate and short term option. Ethanol's corrosive qualities may dislodge deposits but it can't dissolve them, so they likely end up stuck somewhere else. Add to that it's potential to introduce water into your fuel system, play havoc with valves and valve seats (especially long term use in older engines), a faster burn rate and lousy price point, it's hard to find many upsides to E10. I prefer to run a full tank or two of 98pulp now and then for its cleaning agents.
fishdodger said
06:30 AM Oct 23, 2017
Thanks all,the Prado has e10 recommendation at fuel filler,havnt had a problem with it so far.will be doing the lap soon,dont like enleaded 91 nor the price of 98.but even in our south coast nsw town no e10 at our 3servos.
BigRig said
06:32 AM Oct 24, 2017
Welcome Fishie . You will find most of the towns will have the various fuels , but some of the outlying roadhouse
will only have the necessities.
Personally I Don't e stuffy in my lawn mowers.
Jaahn said
03:17 PM Oct 24, 2017
PeterD wrote:
Try this site. If you do a survey around Oz you will see it's only a NSW and Qld thing. Even then you will find it gets rare out in the bush.
hi fishy
Some good recommendations given so far. But as I haven't used petrol out there for years I cannot say. But it is true that E10 is only in the states where it is mandated. Outback, diesel is king and petrol is just secondary, so not given high priority in small places. The larger towns and regional centers have most things you need in a range but i doubt E10 will often be one !
I would also be careful of it in small volume SStations. It has a shorter useby time than straight petrol and the tanks may be crappy. A batch of poor quality petrol will make any saving you made on the fuel cost look pretty bad if you have to have some towing and work done. A tank of 98 will look cheap in hindsight. It happens with diesels too as you may have read.
Jaahn
-- Edited by Jaahn on Tuesday 24th of October 2017 03:22:49 PM
any info on the availability of e10 around the country. Im towing with a Prado 4 litre petrol.
Llyod .... Let me be the first to welcome you to the forum. I hope you enjoy the experience.
To your question. I presume that you are referring to the more far flung areas.
Can't answer that as I never use E10 & therefore don't look out for it. Certainly in the major Qld towns/cities it is readily available.
If not then standard unleaded is always available. For me it is still a better choice on a cost/usage basis.
I suppose in some 'communities' the alternative Opal is available & there may be areas where the standard fuel is Diesel. I don't go to remote locations so I can't help there either.
Perhaps some more background info on your intended travel route may bring more useful information.
As a general rule I have found that where there is sealed road there is a choice of suitable Petrol.
Welcome!
Your best bet is to download the app "Fuel Map Australia", which will advise E10 and all other fuels availability and current/recent prices.
Have you actually checked how E10 goes in your vehicle? In my LandCruiser it is absolute rubbish - at least 25% less kms per tank. Definitely not economical for me.
Try this site. If you do a survey around Oz you will see it's only a NSW and Qld thing. Even then you will find it gets rare out in the bush.
If Honda Gennie recommends unleaded fuel only, then that is good enough for us to only use unleaded in our two vehicles.
My mechanic says to only use unleaded.
Oh!!!! yes we do not have a diesel vehicle.
Jay&Dee
I think that's likely in many vehicles. IMO there is little point in using E10 given its higher consumption rate. I estimate the price would need to be around 20-30% cheaper than 91ulp to be of any real benefit. A mere 2 or 3c p/l difference doesn't make sense. E10 doesn't have the same cleaning properties either, so muckier engines over long term use.
-- Edited by SouthernComfort on Saturday 21st of October 2017 10:15:46 AM
I add some when driving long distance or when theres 10c difference in price which is not very often . Reason I use it is to clean fuel system . What I find is over time a varnish from unleaded sticks to tank and fuel lines . Then when you have to or accidentally top up with E10 it cleans lines etc and blocks filter etc . Also if there is any water in Bottom of tank ? It will mix and be picked up . Water is what does most damage when mixed with ethanol. So use a little often or NOT at all !! Most Jap engines can run on it . 8 or so older Euro engines are not tuned to run on it ! 2003 Ford Focus though GREAT little car ( 400,000klrs) just wonât run on it !! Unless there is 10c cheaper ? The extra fuel usage doesnt make it a budget fuel . But then I think . Unleaded isnât going to last forever and yes our farmer get some $$ Atleast Aussies are getting some earning from it . Not that petrol co are taking the most . Wouldnt be so bad if E fuels where in competition to petrol companies .E10 is usually 94 octane rating .,
-- Edited by Aus-Kiwi on Saturday 21st of October 2017 10:48:15 AM
-- Edited by Aus-Kiwi on Saturday 21st of October 2017 10:49:41 AM
Welcome Fishie . You will find most of the towns will have the various fuels , but some of the outlying roadhouse
will only have the necessities.
Personally I Don't e stuffy in my lawn mowers.
hi fishy
Some good recommendations given so far. But as I haven't used petrol out there for years I cannot say. But it is true that E10 is only in the states where it is mandated. Outback, diesel is king and petrol is just secondary, so not given high priority in small places. The larger towns and regional centers have most things you need in a range but i doubt E10 will often be one !
I would also be careful of it in small volume SStations. It has a shorter useby time than straight petrol and the tanks may be crappy. A batch of poor quality petrol will make any saving you made on the fuel cost look pretty bad if you have to have some towing and work done. A tank of 98 will look cheap in hindsight.
It happens with diesels too as you may have read.
Jaahn
-- Edited by Jaahn on Tuesday 24th of October 2017 03:22:49 PM