We'd just like to say how efficient emergency services are on that number. Yesterday we were using up some time before booking into a CP in Bright VIC at 2pm. After doing some shopping in Myrtleford we parked our rig beside the Ovens River in a small park on the edge of town. There was no-one there except for a guy in a white 4x4 ute. He looked agitated as he paced around his car. He got a sturdy rope out of the tray & stood in the tray. He then formed a noose & threw the noosed end over a thick branch of a tree next to his ute. He tied the other end to his towbar. He put the noose around his neck & seemed to be holding his head in his folded arms rocking back & forth. He was going to step out of the tray & do the deed. We couldn't believe what we were seeing as we TRIED to eat our lunch! We think he may have been waiting for us to pull out but we were determined to stay. We rang 000 & the police arrived in about 3 minutes. They cautiously approached him & he started yelling loudly at them. One of them went back to the car & got on the radio. As we pulled out another police car arrived as back up. Well done to the local police & we hope things turned out OK. We reckon that we ended up more stressed than the bloke & the police. God knows what lunch tasted like!
Waytra said
07:47 AM Oct 18, 2017
Very well done. It is heartening to hear good reports about our emergency services, who come in for so much rubbishing these days. And well done Keith and Judy, there are those in our society who would have just stood there and filmed the whole thing on their phones.
brickies said
08:14 AM Oct 18, 2017
Yes DD the saying Just Ring the Police and that what you did and it work , And I am sure you slept well knowing you did that .
meetoo said
09:22 AM Oct 18, 2017
Thanks DD. I can't imagine the pain that poor fellow must have been going through.
Cheers, John.
Tony Bev said
09:40 AM Oct 18, 2017
Another good on yer, from me, for doing the right thing, and dialling the "000"
It is sad to see, when someone thinks that what the man was planing, is the only solution left to them
It is also good to remember that, the police also get a bit traumatised, in these situations
In the sixties, before RTA, you went to a police station to get a drivers licence
In the Boulder WA police station, was a poster of a policeman holding a young bleeding, and dying person in his arms, at a traffic accident scene
The caption said in large letters
"And they call us pigs"
I for one, have respect for the police
Blues Man said
09:48 AM Oct 18, 2017
Good on you DD well done ,you have just saved that poor troubled souls life.
macka17 said
10:33 AM Oct 18, 2017
You don't know why. Maybe HE had had enuff. Totally.
with todays world.
Me. (Yea,) Cynical I know. As Usual.
I always say. there's a sharp knife. There's the bath,
Turn the tap on first. and go UP the arm NOT across.
Adults.
It's supposed to be OUR individual choices ain't it?.
I know when I'M ready. I'll go to sleep.
I have a huge supply of Opiates if ever needed.
I have a few mates. and their kids who are "pigs".
Bloody good blokes doing a prick of a job mostly. (A few ARE pigs though)
Normal people like them. Others don't.
Put the others down. Then They can all retire hey. chuckle.
Ignore me. I've just got a thing about the human breeding cycle.
Next to ants. We'd have very little opposition. At least they are useful.
brickies said
10:39 AM Oct 18, 2017
It's not just about him it's his family who would be left behind , And would have to live with the pain .
Eaglemax said
01:13 PM Oct 18, 2017
I could have done without the detail Macka.
Well done DD.
My brother and uncle went by their own means. I now spend about 25 hours a week as a volunteer for beyondblue. Suicide does leave us traumatised and wondering why.
If anyone finds themselves distraught please ring lifeline or beyond blue. Get help, think of your loved ones and remember....a little time, a little talk and you'll be ok.
toglhot said
01:24 PM Oct 18, 2017
I rang 000 once to report a some kids setting fire to the bush. All the operator was interested in was what I was doing in Perth as they had me residing in Darwin. Once that was sorted, then came the phone number. By the time the fire services arrived the kids had gone and the fire had burnt great swathes through the bush.
toglhot said
01:29 PM Oct 18, 2017
I'm a firm believer in right to death, my life I should be able to finish it wherever, whenever and however I please. If someone wants to die, that is their right. I have some serious health issues which will finish me off one day, I hope before that time comes the law is changed so I can finish the job a little sooner and avoid the pain and suffering that will come.
The Belmont Bear said
01:33 PM Oct 18, 2017
I don't always agree with some of the things that you post DD but well done this time, the emergency services should really be commended for responding that quickly.
cheers
BB
Aussie said
01:59 PM Oct 18, 2017
macka17
wrote, " I have a huge supply of Opiates if ever needed."
Maybe you should Google, Opiate deaths mate, so you know what to expect.
macka17 said
02:00 PM Oct 18, 2017
Sorry to some people.
I'm with Toolhog.
It's MY body... I'LL sort it.
We will ALL. fall over through one thing or another. One day.
He could have just found out he had IE Bone Cancer.
When they told me. I set my boat up so I could chain an 85lb Admiralty pick round me
and step off bow at sea.
So I wouldn't put my family through that ****.
Like I said. MY body. MY choice.
Not one of you asked WHY............. He was thinking of doing it.
There are a LOT of valid reasons to pull the plug. Not ALL sensible
apart from the person doing it. AT THAT TIME..
Do Gooding. Is NOT always. Doing Good to some.
sandsmere said
02:03 PM Oct 18, 2017
toglhot wrote:
I'm a firm believer in right to death, my life I should be able to finish it wherever, whenever and however I please. If someone wants to die, that is their right. I have some serious health issues which will finish me off one day, I hope before that time comes the law is changed so I can finish the job a little sooner and avoid the pain and suffering that will come.
I also believe in the right to death.
Not publically though. If you are going to do it, do it in your own home out of sight of the public.
Little kids could have come along and seen this bloke swinging in the wind.
Well done DD's.
-- Edited by sandsmere on Wednesday 18th of October 2017 02:04:29 PM
macka17 said
02:12 PM Oct 18, 2017
Aussie.
I've been on it HEAVY for 26 yrs mate. Patches. Pills and needle.
Medically. IE Legally.
I've reduced it to 25\5 mg 3 day patches. Plus. on good days. 35\45mg Targin
mixed with one or two instant Endone daily.
That's over and above my Implant... The levels are increasing again.
Were better than now.
we've already arranged to go to Holland for 3 months Temp, residency,
When time comes.
(Vanden-----. Surname. Not a problem). Sit in chair. hit your own switch.
When YOU ready.
Civilised...
Read up on it in some civilised country's. As it should be hey.
No Big Brother.
Or stupid family member\s wanting to keep you as a vegetable forever.
Swoffer said
02:25 PM Oct 18, 2017
Yet another decent thread hijacked and ruined by macka .
Hey Jim said
02:56 PM Oct 18, 2017
Eaglemax wrote:
I could have done without the detail Macka. Well done DD. My brother and uncle went by their own means. I now spend about 25 hours a week as a volunteer for beyondblue. Suicide does leave us traumatised and wondering why. If anyone finds themselves distraught please ring lifeline or beyond blue. Get help, think of your loved ones and remember....a little time, a little talk and you'll be ok.
I second you Tony.
Ring, Pick up the Phone for God's sake. Help is minutes away. We have helped so many.
Jim
madaboutled said
04:18 PM Oct 18, 2017
Swoffer wrote:
Yet another decent thread hijacked and ruined by macka .
He did say "Ignore Me" near the bottom of his first post on this topic and I have to say, that's the best advice he has given which should be applied for the majority of his posts.
iana said
04:38 PM Oct 18, 2017
I'll say DD you did the right thing, but you did not save a life, you kept a person alive. I know that from my own experience, I believe we should have our own right to decide, and like macka, I too have a stash.
brickies said
04:57 PM Oct 18, 2017
DD didn't state that he saved a life , DD post was about the response to a "OOO" Call .
aussie_paul said
05:06 PM Oct 18, 2017
Apparently opiate death is far from pleasant.
Aussie Paul.
macka17 said
06:33 PM Oct 18, 2017
ANY death is unpleasant Paul. Unless it's quick. Some not so friendly folk on here sometimes hey. Makes you wonder what they like\ How nasty they are in real life.
Suicide. Euthanasia. Both are Doing what YOU want with YOUR body.
Your Property. YOUR LIFE. It does NOT belong to anybody else.
Sometimes under stress. sometimes in relief.
BOTH....... Are an individuals personal choice.
and the rest of people should leave a person to do what he\she.
WANT'S TO DO. with their own body.
These "saviours" are not always "saviours" in the way of things.
Injured. YES. By all means. But total. my choice mate.
There's normally a reason.
Same as "Paliative care" I've known a few. Most just want to go.
But the "law" and selfish family members decide otherwise.
Just vegetables in chairs\beds. Existence. NOT life.
We've had our lives. Let us move over for somebody else In my eyes.
-- Edited by macka17 on Wednesday 18th of October 2017 06:45:44 PM
Old and tired said
10:41 PM Oct 18, 2017
People in their right mind seldom contemplate suicide. This bloke was probably depressed, I can tell you it is a rotten state, and having had a good think about suicide at one moment, I can also tell you that plenty of ordinary, stable people get that way at one time in their life.
The problem is that it causes unbelievable damage to those left behind, suicide is a selfish act. The mother in law of one of my boys went over the heads in Sydney a few years ago. She was horribly depressed and had been for years. The impact on our daughter in law was so bad it broke the marriage, they just could not cope. The damage in this poor woman's family was massive. I suppose we can't blame her for taking the dive, but boy it was at a high cost.
I can't help thinking that the moment we stop caring for one another is the moment the world stops being a good place. At a very low point for me a friend just said "you'll be right mate". It made a huge difference to me for some reason. If my mate thought I was going to be alright, it was probably true! Turned out he was right of course.
People who give, and care, and share, and support others seem to have a better and more stable life themselves. Regardless of their wealth or status, or the state they are in themselves. People who are strong for others, and share the burden of care, are usually strong in their own context and for their own loved ones.
Sorry to be so serious and preachy......I don't often admit it but I was a preacher (a pretty badly flawed one) in another life.
Old and tired
Old and tired said
10:50 PM Oct 18, 2017
Macca you are a character! Keep it going mate.
I think there is a clear difference between what we understand as suicide: people under pressure and depressed and in pain taking a decision in desperate circumstances. And euthanasia, usually a decision taken calmly after long consideration, and in the face of a debilitating or painful disease. Euthanasia is controlled, unselfish, personal.
One article I read years ago really got to me. A professional Sydney couple, in their eighties but in good health, tidied the house, left notes for their children, and booked a sleeper on the Melbourne train. Sometime overnight they took some pills, and were discovered dead on arrival by railways staff in Melbourne. I guess they did not want their kids to find them and leave them with the mess.
I am a God botherer myself, and will leave the ending in His hands. But go ahead with the plan anytime you feel like it mate.
Old and Tired
Cupie said
12:22 AM Oct 19, 2017
Well said Old & Tired.
and
Well Done DD
Also
We often don't show appreciation for the great job our Essential Services (Police, Ambulance, Fire et al) People do.
Blues Man said
07:30 AM Oct 19, 2017
Old and tired wrote:
Macca you are a character! Keep it going mate.
I think there is a clear difference between what we understand as suicide: people under pressure and depressed and in pain taking a decision in desperate circumstances. And euthanasia, usually a decision taken calmly after long consideration, and in the face of a debilitating or painful disease. Euthanasia is controlled, unselfish, personal.
One article I read years ago really got to me. A professional Sydney couple, in their eighties but in good health, tidied the house, left notes for their children, and booked a sleeper on the Melbourne train. Sometime overnight they took some pills, and were discovered dead on arrival by railways staff in Melbourne. I guess they did not want their kids to find them and leave them with the mess.
I am a God botherer myself, and will leave the ending in His hands. But go ahead with the plan anytime you feel like it mate.
Old and Tired
I'm with you ,Old and tired ,i also am a God botherer and will leave it in his capable hands .When he want's me he will take me .Amen
brickies said
08:06 AM Oct 19, 2017
I think Macka 17 is just stirring the pot , All the things he has done he must be a lest 106 if he did believe what he write he would have taken that step by now .
Peter Rose said
08:48 AM Oct 19, 2017
Swoffer wrote:
Yet another decent thread hijacked and ruined by macka .
Are there any threads or topics that Macka does not comment on ?
Bryan said
09:17 AM Oct 19, 2017
Peter Rose wrote:
Swoffer wrote:
Yet another decent thread hijacked and ruined by macka .
Are there any threads or topics that Macka does not comment on ?
No, he is our resident expert. There is nothing that he doesn't have an in depth knowledge of.
We'd just like to say how efficient emergency services are on that number. Yesterday we were using up some time before booking into a CP in Bright VIC at 2pm. After doing some shopping in Myrtleford we parked our rig beside the Ovens River in a small park on the edge of town. There was no-one there except for a guy in a white 4x4 ute. He looked agitated as he paced around his car. He got a sturdy rope out of the tray & stood in the tray. He then formed a noose & threw the noosed end over a thick branch of a tree next to his ute. He tied the other end to his towbar. He put the noose around his neck & seemed to be holding his head in his folded arms rocking back & forth. He was going to step out of the tray & do the deed. We couldn't believe what we were seeing as we TRIED to eat our lunch! We think he may have been waiting for us to pull out but we were determined to stay. We rang 000 & the police arrived in about 3 minutes. They cautiously approached him & he started yelling loudly at them. One of them went back to the car & got on the radio. As we pulled out another police car arrived as back up. Well done to the local police & we hope things turned out OK. We reckon that we ended up more stressed than the bloke & the police. God knows what lunch tasted like!
Thanks DD. I can't imagine the pain that poor fellow must have been going through.
Cheers, John.
It is sad to see, when someone thinks that what the man was planing, is the only solution left to them
It is also good to remember that, the police also get a bit traumatised, in these situations
In the sixties, before RTA, you went to a police station to get a drivers licence
In the Boulder WA police station, was a poster of a policeman holding a young bleeding, and dying person in his arms, at a traffic accident scene
The caption said in large letters
"And they call us pigs"
I for one, have respect for the police
Good on you DD well done ,you have just saved that poor troubled souls life.
with todays world.
Me. (Yea,) Cynical I know. As Usual.
I always say. there's a sharp knife. There's the bath,
Turn the tap on first. and go UP the arm NOT across.
Adults.
It's supposed to be OUR individual choices ain't it?.
I know when I'M ready. I'll go to sleep.
I have a huge supply of Opiates if ever needed.
I have a few mates. and their kids who are "pigs".
Bloody good blokes doing a prick of a job mostly. (A few ARE pigs though)
Normal people like them. Others don't.
Put the others down. Then They can all retire hey. chuckle.
Ignore me. I've just got a thing about the human breeding cycle.
Next to ants. We'd have very little opposition. At least they are useful.
I don't always agree with some of the things that you post DD but well done this time, the emergency services should really be commended for responding that quickly.
cheers
BB
wrote, " I have a huge supply of Opiates if ever needed."
Maybe you should Google, Opiate deaths mate, so you know what to expect.
I'm with Toolhog.
It's MY body... I'LL sort it.
We will ALL. fall over through one thing or another. One day.
He could have just found out he had IE Bone Cancer.
When they told me. I set my boat up so I could chain an 85lb Admiralty pick round me
and step off bow at sea.
So I wouldn't put my family through that ****.
Like I said. MY body. MY choice.
Not one of you asked WHY............. He was thinking of doing it.
There are a LOT of valid reasons to pull the plug. Not ALL sensible
apart from the person doing it. AT THAT TIME..
Do Gooding. Is NOT always. Doing Good to some.
I also believe in the right to death.
Not publically though. If you are going to do it, do it in your own home out of sight of the public.
Little kids could have come along and seen this bloke swinging in the wind.
Well done DD's.
-- Edited by sandsmere on Wednesday 18th of October 2017 02:04:29 PM
I've been on it HEAVY for 26 yrs mate. Patches. Pills and needle.
Medically. IE Legally.
I've reduced it to 25\5 mg 3 day patches. Plus. on good days. 35\45mg Targin
mixed with one or two instant Endone daily.
That's over and above my Implant... The levels are increasing again.
Were better than now.
we've already arranged to go to Holland for 3 months Temp, residency,
When time comes.
(Vanden-----. Surname. Not a problem). Sit in chair. hit your own switch.
When YOU ready.
Civilised...
Read up on it in some civilised country's. As it should be hey.
No Big Brother.
Or stupid family member\s wanting to keep you as a vegetable forever.
I second you Tony.
Ring, Pick up the Phone for God's sake. Help is minutes away. We have helped so many.
Jim
He did say "Ignore Me" near the bottom of his first post on this topic and I have to say, that's the best advice he has given which should be applied for the majority of his posts.
Apparently opiate death is far from pleasant.
Aussie Paul.
ANY death is unpleasant Paul. Unless it's quick.
Some not so friendly folk on here sometimes hey.
Makes you wonder what they like\ How nasty they are in real life.
Suicide. Euthanasia. Both are Doing what YOU want with YOUR body.
Your Property. YOUR LIFE. It does NOT belong to anybody else.
Sometimes under stress. sometimes in relief.
BOTH....... Are an individuals personal choice.
and the rest of people should leave a person to do what he\she.
WANT'S TO DO. with their own body.
These "saviours" are not always "saviours" in the way of things.
Injured. YES. By all means. But total. my choice mate.
There's normally a reason.
Same as "Paliative care" I've known a few. Most just want to go.
But the "law" and selfish family members decide otherwise.
Just vegetables in chairs\beds. Existence. NOT life.
We've had our lives. Let us move over for somebody else In my eyes.
-- Edited by macka17 on Wednesday 18th of October 2017 06:45:44 PM
People in their right mind seldom contemplate suicide. This bloke was probably depressed, I can tell you it is a rotten state, and having had a good think about suicide at one moment, I can also tell you that plenty of ordinary, stable people get that way at one time in their life.
The problem is that it causes unbelievable damage to those left behind, suicide is a selfish act. The mother in law of one of my boys went over the heads in Sydney a few years ago. She was horribly depressed and had been for years. The impact on our daughter in law was so bad it broke the marriage, they just could not cope. The damage in this poor woman's family was massive. I suppose we can't blame her for taking the dive, but boy it was at a high cost.
I can't help thinking that the moment we stop caring for one another is the moment the world stops being a good place. At a very low point for me a friend just said "you'll be right mate". It made a huge difference to me for some reason. If my mate thought I was going to be alright, it was probably true! Turned out he was right of course.
People who give, and care, and share, and support others seem to have a better and more stable life themselves. Regardless of their wealth or status, or the state they are in themselves. People who are strong for others, and share the burden of care, are usually strong in their own context and for their own loved ones.
Sorry to be so serious and preachy......I don't often admit it but I was a preacher (a pretty badly flawed one) in another life.
Old and tired
Macca you are a character! Keep it going mate.
I think there is a clear difference between what we understand as suicide: people under pressure and depressed and in pain taking a decision in desperate circumstances. And euthanasia, usually a decision taken calmly after long consideration, and in the face of a debilitating or painful disease. Euthanasia is controlled, unselfish, personal.
One article I read years ago really got to me. A professional Sydney couple, in their eighties but in good health, tidied the house, left notes for their children, and booked a sleeper on the Melbourne train. Sometime overnight they took some pills, and were discovered dead on arrival by railways staff in Melbourne. I guess they did not want their kids to find them and leave them with the mess.
I am a God botherer myself, and will leave the ending in His hands. But go ahead with the plan anytime you feel like it mate.
Old and Tired
Well said Old & Tired.
and
Well Done DD
Also
We often don't show appreciation for the great job our Essential Services (Police, Ambulance, Fire et al) People do.
I'm with you ,Old and tired ,i also am a God botherer and will leave it in his capable hands .When he want's me he will take me .Amen
Are there any threads or topics that Macka does not comment on ?
No, he is our resident expert. There is nothing that he doesn't have an in depth knowledge of.