I'm happy with my 2015 Ranger. Mechanically the Mazda & Ford are almost (if not entirely) identical. It's really only down to personal choice when it comes to the level of trim.
Will be interesting when Nissan produce the Mercedes & Mazda as well as their own Navara. Not sure whether the same unit may have a Renault badge on it eventually.
And all this type of ute comes out of East Detroit (aka Thailand).
Jenko1 said
05:49 PM Sep 16, 2017
I far as I know Mazda are going to have Isuzu motors and Mitsubishi are going the the crap Navara motor as Nissan has bailed Mitsubishi out of debt.
RustyD said
05:58 PM Sep 16, 2017
Ooops. I thought Mazda had gone to Nissan after initial rumours suggested Toyota. Now it's Isuzu as Jenko notes. Does that mean Isuzu make Isuzu, GM & Mazda? I remember that one company was going to make 3 brands.
macka17 said
06:50 PM Sep 16, 2017
Hey.
Don't matter who's label is on chassis of any veh. 1.2.3 or 5.
As long as it's a good veh. It's irrelevant.
Apart from other mfg's who'll be pissed.
As a ute.
The Navara and Isuzu are probably the best veh's on road.
Quality, and definitely reliability wise.
The most important thing is. Make sure they labelled with ACCURATE weight limits.
Carrying. Towing, and gross.
WITH SAFETY.... NOT Marketing in mind hey.
gooba53 said
11:53 PM Sep 16, 2017
Good to know. Other than the hiccup we had after towing 70,000 km in drive., shoulda been in sports, (thanks to the friends on here for pointing us in the right direction,) we've been happy with the towing capacity and comfort of the BT .
macka17 said
09:53 AM Sep 18, 2017
YEP. It was a toss up between a BT (4 cyl) and my D-Max when I was changing. 2010 models.
Mazda has more herbs under the bonnet, and room in drivers area, but D-Max had better gearing and more reliability record.
Fords always had too many bits dropping off them for me. Apart from my Fairlanes yrs ago. I'd love an F150 though. Beaut truck.
Addendum.
ANYbody towing with Auto veh's.
I'd recommend fitting a Torque Converter Lock-Up swiitch.
Best $500ish you'll ever spend.
Read up on them. Stops any\ALL that hunting they do on up and down hills.
I have.
-- Edited by macka17 on Monday 18th of September 2017 09:56:11 AM
iana said
10:17 AM Sep 18, 2017
Driving the 4 cyl. BT50 and driving the 5 cyl. BT50 are two entirely different towing or just driving vehicles. As far as herbs are concerned, many drivers get a surprise when the Ranger or BT50 leave them standing at the lights. Those two with the 3.2 motor are more like driving a petrol vehicle with regards acceleration, than a diesel, except when towing and it just seems to put its head down and go.
Warren-Pat_01 said
04:36 PM Sep 18, 2017
The only "downer" I know of the BT-50 was from my mechanic. Was towing a heavy alum boat back from Normanton last year, hit a bull dust hole & bent the chassis.
If my Nissan gives up, I'll probably go for an Izuzu - if electric 4WDs don't come in first.
Desert Dweller said
05:27 PM Sep 18, 2017
Have they fixed tg bullbar mount problem. They were falling off on rough roads. Lots of them carried on a roof rack.Lol.
Gday...
Read all about it here
Cheers - John
Will be interesting when Nissan produce the Mercedes & Mazda as well as their own Navara. Not sure whether the same unit may have a Renault badge on it eventually.
And all this type of ute comes out of East Detroit (aka Thailand).
I far as I know Mazda are going to have Isuzu motors and Mitsubishi are going the the crap Navara motor as Nissan has bailed Mitsubishi out of debt.
Don't matter who's label is on chassis of any veh. 1.2.3 or 5.
As long as it's a good veh. It's irrelevant.
Apart from other mfg's who'll be pissed.
As a ute.
The Navara and Isuzu are probably the best veh's on road.
Quality, and definitely reliability wise.
The most important thing is. Make sure they labelled with ACCURATE weight limits.
Carrying. Towing, and gross.
WITH SAFETY.... NOT Marketing in mind hey.
Good to know. Other than the hiccup we had after towing 70,000 km in drive., shoulda been in sports, (thanks to the friends on here for pointing us in the right direction,) we've been happy with the towing capacity and comfort of the BT .
YEP.
It was a toss up between a BT (4 cyl) and my D-Max when I was changing. 2010 models.
Mazda has more herbs under the bonnet, and room in drivers area,
but D-Max had better gearing and more reliability record.
Fords always had too many bits dropping off them for me.
Apart from my Fairlanes yrs ago. I'd love an F150 though.
Beaut truck.
Addendum.
ANYbody towing with Auto veh's.
I'd recommend fitting a Torque Converter Lock-Up swiitch.
Best $500ish you'll ever spend.
Read up on them. Stops any\ALL that hunting they do on up and down hills.
I have.
-- Edited by macka17 on Monday 18th of September 2017 09:56:11 AM
If my Nissan gives up, I'll probably go for an Izuzu - if electric 4WDs don't come in first.
D-Max was the right chioce Methink's.
They just go.