Put our vehicle and van over the weighbridge the other day, just measured the combined weight. Have 390kg to go, before we reach the combined mass limit. Certainly made us both rethink what we intend to travel with. My tools and service equipment are a concern.
Some careful planning ahead required as to what we take and what we put into storage when we sell the house.
macka17 said
10:41 AM Sep 7, 2017
Well.
For a start. Try NOT to go to your limits.
Keep the van. Hopefully around 350 to 400kg lighter than tug.
The wider the gap. The safer the rig will be.
Controllability wise.
Regarding tools etc.
I've done it fora lot of yrs. (EX diesel tech).
Took the "kitchen sink". Welder. Genny, you name it. I had it.
Nowadays with modern technology. we can't touch a lot of it.
Take tools for Brakes. steering axles hubs and van.
Most Importantly. Have the TOP.. RACQ (Whatever) cover.
That will get you and van. Home again.
Or at least towed to nearest proper repair station.
and supply bed. transport etc while waiting.
Storage exxy nowadays.
Have you family\mate etc. With room to put a 10\20ft Container.
Coupla grand used to buy a 20 fter?. Plus del.
Or rent.
Long term it'd be less financial way to go.
Plus you still have Cont at end of it.
Renting is like renting a house. ALL dead money. But?.
We used to keep Seasonal clothing at Daughters.
Whichever we were in (climate) we'd sent alternate clothing to Daughter
on Interstate bus to local? depot.
Change climate. she'd sent other back etc. Madam has a LOT of clothing.
The Greyhound were very economical means of moving. ONE MAN manageable items round the country.
The driver handles\loads.
Same O'seas. one case ea. Souvenirs etc, mount up (3 month trips mainly).
Coupla parcels sent home from wherever.
Cheaper than excess luggage on planes. and weights.
Have fun. It's a real juggling game.
Dougwe said
08:11 AM Sep 8, 2017
Ian, when you sit down and start sorting it all out, weighing things taking notes using the bathroom scales or similar you find things you can live without. One of those hand held scales would be handy during the project though.
As you may have read recently I have just done that little project and it was all very successful, leaving both my Tug and teepee under their max's and my GCM under by very similar to yours so I am very happy now.
Keep Safe on the roads and out there.
iana said
09:01 AM Sep 8, 2017
Yes Dougwe, I did a spreadsheet when I brought the van, and started doing sums, so I knew I would be tip-toing as far as weight is concerned. As you probably are aware, I have done a number of mods on the set up and that has increased weight so those figures are not true anymore. But like you I am staying away from a WDH, and because of that, most of our worldly goods are going in the ute. As the canopy is now installed, next time I am about, I shall take and post a picture of the setup. Mind you Macka, if I had my time again, I would somehow go for a smaller van, however this is what I have and I have to make the best of it.
macka17 said
01:50 PM Sep 8, 2017
Been there. Dun that. with a few vans.
Nowadays.
535 full height Tandem. UNDER 2 ton on axles.
Second hand ex Gov't ute. Low miles. 3 month out of wty.
$35k all up.
Reliable. Economical. Comfortable.
Does everything the 6.5 off roader does.
Plus. selling the Patrol and Roadstar. and after buying this rig
put $15+ k towards the last O'Seas holiday.
Bigger vans ARE nicer.... When parked and in them.
Otherwise. a smaller unit is always better in all respects.
Dr Who comes to mind hey. I wish.
Great fuel bills.
PS.
Funnily though.
after all what people say about those 3 ltr Patrols ('02, mine).
This ute with 3 ltr donk. Chip Snorkel. and under 2 ton van.
Averages very little less than the Patrol rig.
6.5ish KMPL Patrol. Over 14 yrs.
6,2ish D-Max. Over 2 trips.
BOTH along East Coast T'ween Vict and Q'Land.
and that Roadstar was always less than half full. empty cupboards everywhere.
I don't know what people find to put in them myself.
You're halfway there.
Just thinking about it puts you in the right frame of mind.
Craig1 said
07:59 PM Sep 10, 2017
There is a new PUBLIC WEIGHBRIDGE advertised in North Albury. 109 Fallon Street North Albury. 0409 041 091. Access for trucks, caravans etc. No affiliation, Fallon St is easy to access from " old Hume Hwy ( now MATE STREET)".
dirvine said
09:28 PM Sep 10, 2017
Dont need to go all over this as it has been explained so many times on this forum, but GVM, is meaningless unless you look at the individual weights of the tug and the van individually. If either of these is above their max, then you are overweight. Forget the total combined figure it is not important at all.
iana said
10:07 AM Sep 11, 2017
Great news dirvine, means I can go up to 3260kg on the van and up to 3200kg in the ute, that's another 1/2 tonne you've given me, whoopee!
-- Edited by iana on Monday 11th of September 2017 10:07:50 AM
macka17 said
10:08 AM Sep 11, 2017
Plus Dave.
THE most important of figures.
TUG.... Heavier than TOW...... At all times.
The more the merrier hey.
PeterD said
08:12 AM Sep 12, 2017
iana wrote:
Put our vehicle and van over the weighbridge the other day, just measured the combined weight. Have 390kg to go, before we reach the combined mass limit.
I can read that two ways. Are you pruning your load and still have 390 kg to prune or is that 390 kg weight you can still add?
Bill B said
08:53 AM Sep 12, 2017
dirvine wrote:
Dont need to go all over this as it has been explained so many times on this forum, but GVM, is meaningless unless you look at the individual weights of the tug and the van individually. If either of these is above their max, then you are overweight. Forget the total combined figure it is not important at all.
Not quite correct with the above statement.
A Mazda BT 50 has a GVM of 3,200 kgs & a towing capacity of 3,500 kgs. but the GCM you are saying to forget about is only 6,000 kgs
This applies to many vehicles not only the BT50.
-- Edited by Bill B on Tuesday 12th of September 2017 08:56:40 AM
iana said
09:17 AM Sep 12, 2017
PeterD, that is 390kg to go until we reach the vehicle limit, we haven't really started loading yet, but what doesn't go in the van gets chucked out sold or goes into storage. Selling house and all.
Bill B -------exactly! when or if we reach the limit, it will just be a case of moving weight around so each vehicle complies. I must have about a cubic meter of space on the back of the BT50, and the van has so many cupboards we won't get anywhere near filling them.
Put our vehicle and van over the weighbridge the other day, just measured the combined weight. Have 390kg to go, before we reach the combined mass limit. Certainly made us both rethink what we intend to travel with. My tools and service equipment are a concern.
Some careful planning ahead required as to what we take and what we put into storage when we sell the house.
For a start. Try NOT to go to your limits.
Keep the van. Hopefully around 350 to 400kg lighter than tug.
The wider the gap. The safer the rig will be.
Controllability wise.
Regarding tools etc.
I've done it fora lot of yrs. (EX diesel tech).
Took the "kitchen sink". Welder. Genny, you name it. I had it.
Nowadays with modern technology. we can't touch a lot of it.
Take tools for Brakes. steering axles hubs and van.
Most Importantly. Have the TOP.. RACQ (Whatever) cover.
That will get you and van. Home again.
Or at least towed to nearest proper repair station.
and supply bed. transport etc while waiting.
Storage exxy nowadays.
Have you family\mate etc. With room to put a 10\20ft Container.
Coupla grand used to buy a 20 fter?. Plus del.
Or rent.
Long term it'd be less financial way to go.
Plus you still have Cont at end of it.
Renting is like renting a house. ALL dead money. But?.
We used to keep Seasonal clothing at Daughters.
Whichever we were in (climate) we'd sent alternate clothing to Daughter
on Interstate bus to local? depot.
Change climate. she'd sent other back etc. Madam has a LOT of clothing.
The Greyhound were very economical means of moving. ONE MAN manageable items round the country.
The driver handles\loads.
Same O'seas. one case ea. Souvenirs etc, mount up (3 month trips mainly).
Coupla parcels sent home from wherever.
Cheaper than excess luggage on planes. and weights.
Have fun. It's a real juggling game.
As you may have read recently I have just done that little project and it was all very successful, leaving both my Tug and teepee under their max's and my GCM under by very similar to yours so I am very happy now.
Keep Safe on the roads and out there.
Nowadays.
535 full height Tandem. UNDER 2 ton on axles.
Second hand ex Gov't ute. Low miles. 3 month out of wty.
$35k all up.
Reliable. Economical. Comfortable.
Does everything the 6.5 off roader does.
Plus. selling the Patrol and Roadstar. and after buying this rig
put $15+ k towards the last O'Seas holiday.
Bigger vans ARE nicer.... When parked and in them.
Otherwise. a smaller unit is always better in all respects.
Dr Who comes to mind hey. I wish.
Great fuel bills.
PS.
Funnily though.
after all what people say about those 3 ltr Patrols ('02, mine).
This ute with 3 ltr donk. Chip Snorkel. and under 2 ton van.
Averages very little less than the Patrol rig.
6.5ish KMPL Patrol. Over 14 yrs.
6,2ish D-Max. Over 2 trips.
BOTH along East Coast T'ween Vict and Q'Land.
and that Roadstar was always less than half full. empty cupboards everywhere.
I don't know what people find to put in them myself.
You're halfway there.
Just thinking about it puts you in the right frame of mind.
Great news dirvine, means I can go up to 3260kg on the van and up to 3200kg in the ute, that's another 1/2 tonne you've given me, whoopee!
-- Edited by iana on Monday 11th of September 2017 10:07:50 AM
THE most important of figures.
TUG.... Heavier than TOW...... At all times.
The more the merrier hey.
I can read that two ways. Are you pruning your load and still have 390 kg to prune or is that 390 kg weight you can still add?
Not quite correct with the above statement.
A Mazda BT 50 has a GVM of 3,200 kgs & a towing capacity of 3,500 kgs. but the GCM you are saying to forget about is only 6,000 kgs
-- Edited by Bill B on Tuesday 12th of September 2017 08:56:40 AM
Bill B -------exactly! when or if we reach the limit, it will just be a case of moving weight around so each vehicle complies. I must have about a cubic meter of space on the back of the BT50, and the van has so many cupboards we won't get anywhere near filling them.