Has anyone had experience with these.? If you're out the back of woop woop and the local mechanic isn't familiar with anything beyond an 80s Falcon or Commodore. Seems there are 3 types. The most common is one with standard straight connector ends and a ribbed centre section. This would be OK but has to be the correct length. Not a cut to length type. Then there is an all ribbed job which uses separate clamping connectors on the ends. This one you can cut. I can imagine the connectors could be a little awkward in tight spots though. The last and more uncommon one is a softer more standard looking hose with a spiral wire reinforcement. This one can be cut and needs no special clamp ends. Any suggestions or experiences would be welcome.. Thank you.. Geoff.
Aus-Kiwi said
09:32 AM Jul 17, 2017
Used the reinforced on farm equipment for years . Haven't used on our own cars due to asthetics . They're generally heavy duty . You'll be fine if fitted correctly .
macka17 said
10:47 AM Jul 17, 2017
Surely people that travel, especially if towing.
HAVE enough sense (by now)to carry the basics. Hoses. Belts.fluids. WKSP Manual, and some tools.
We've written enough about it over the yrs.
OLD ADAGE.. "Have and not want. Rather than WANT and not have."
The best insurance anybody can carry.
If YOU can't. Somebody coming along will do for you. And if you get stuck somewhere in Whup Whup for lack of a hose.belt, etc. for a week or more. Welllll.
Plus..... hoses.
Bastar--sed hoses, MADE to fit.
On Corrugated or rough roads. Will tend to shake loose. with the differing stresses on differing shaped forced into them to MAKE them fit..
Seriously.... NOT good for water retention hey. A burst Hose. Bearing. Belt. whatever. which costs tens of $$$'s locally. Could end up costing YOU a coupla Thousand.
PLUS a week out of your trip and inconvenience of.
PLEASE.... Think ahead. and don't be miserly... You're the ones it'll likely happen to.
-- Edited by macka17 on Monday 17th of July 2017 10:49:06 AM
Geeco said
11:17 AM Jul 17, 2017
In a former life I worked for an automotive components company that imported US made "universal"hoses. They were the convoluted type with plain ends. They were a very good replacement if you first measured the length of your existing hose and the dia of the neck you were pushing the hose over. Then purchase based on those dimensions. New hose clamps are also a sensible spare to carry. Cheers,
KevinC said
01:08 PM Jul 17, 2017
G'day Geoff, Welcome to the forum.
All the hoses you mention will work. If you're desperate, then grab whatever will fit. The internal diameter of the hose will determine how much water will leak out after you've busted your knuckles trying to get the clamps tight. In my experience the ones that are corrugated over their entire length are hardest to fit, but that said, if the diameter is right it's a workable solution. Here's hoping you never need to use them.
geoff stevenson said
01:42 PM Jul 17, 2017
Thanks Guys.. all very helpful information.. I travel with just about every tool and likely spare I can think of. Haven't ever not been able to get to the next destination.. The hoses however are not easy to find for an 06 Ssangyong Kyron.. Now stop your bloody laughing..! It has done a lot of good economical work for 5 years.. Has a few strange quirks but don't they all..? Even Repco don't list these hoses.. Though they do have the brake pads, oil and air filters etc.. Recently done some work on it to raise engine temperature. Long story.. Ask if you want to know why and how. That will put a bit more strain on the rubber so I thought I'd be prepared.. Safe Travels.. Geoff.
macka17 said
02:30 PM Jul 17, 2017
EBay. Thailand.
Ssamyong. Parts\hoses.
They probably have in country of MFG.
I thought those engines were Mercedes Based??.
Check that model engine on Mercedes pages.
Just MAybe?????.
Baz421 said
04:43 PM Jul 17, 2017
Aus-Kiwi wrote:
Used the reinforced on farm equipment for years . Haven't used on our own cars due to asthetics . They're generally heavy duty . You'll be fine if fitted correctly .
Agree, suction side MUST be reinforced ie wire inside or they can collapse.
Baz421 said
04:45 PM Jul 17, 2017
Geeco wrote:
In a former life I worked for an automotive components company that imported US made "universal"hoses. They were the convoluted type with plain ends. They were a very good replacement if you first measured the length of your existing hose and the dia of the neck you were pushing the hose over. Then purchase based on those dimensions. New hose clamps are also a sensible spare to carry. Cheers,
Yes but if you do that you may as well buy the correct hose I think the OP was suggesting carry 1 convoluted radiator hose length and cut /fit as necessary but I could be wrong( again).
Joe50 said
12:49 AM Jul 18, 2017
I also was looking for some universal hoses for my Hino, but one of them has a couple of convoluted bends and I was advised that I should get a genuine hose for that particular one. In the end I got genuine ones for all four main hoses - cost a bit but at least I KNOW they'll fit.
Joe
Radar said
02:23 AM Jul 18, 2017
macka17 wrote:
Surely people that travel, especially if towing.
HAVE enough sense (by now)to carry the basics. Hoses. Belts.fluids.
----------------------------------
Welll our dear friend with all your experience and knowledge, you certainly never cease to amaz.
Well I don't have any sense
I travel, I go reasonably remote, not as remote as once, before I leave home for 2 or 3 months, our long time mechanic checks our car out and has done since 1990 since we starting doing extened touring, never needed any of the spares I had carried.
Don't carry them anymore with modern cars, if the car used fuilds of any description it woukd not leave home, simple as.
A few bits of electrical stuff for the caravan and a hand full of tools.
Secondly one truck I was involved with over a 4 year period, bloke the fan belt, put the spare on, lasted about 200 miles, similar thing hapen with the top radiator hose, put the spare on and got down the road and it was leaking. With the spares laying around in cabin of the truck they just dry out and become useless.
With your years of experience you may not of had this happen or just plain forgot.
Now what was the orignal question, oh yes.
Has anybody had real experience with the flexible hoses.
Sorry no from me Mr. Stevenson.
geoff stevenson said
12:10 PM Jul 18, 2017
Thanks again guys.. it's not that I'm a tight arse.. well no more than the usual traveller.. what I really want is a set of proper hoses.. The universal hose was a passing idea. And probably no cheaper than the real thing anyway.. But you try and find the real ones.. Yes these cars have Mercedes engines and running gear. OK if you want that kind of part. The ancillaries are all pure Korean though.. Built like a brick outhouse.. Front pillars about 6 inches wide and forget about looking out the back. Solid chassis etc.. Electronics by God knows who.. lots of electrical quirks.. I'll try the Ssangyong forums for supplier suggestions.. Probably overseas but that's no prob.. Safe Travels.. Geoff..
Has anyone had experience with these.? If you're out the back of woop woop and the local mechanic isn't familiar with anything beyond an 80s Falcon or Commodore. Seems there are 3 types. The most common is one with standard straight connector ends and a ribbed centre section. This would be OK but has to be the correct length. Not a cut to length type. Then there is an all ribbed job which uses separate clamping connectors on the ends. This one you can cut. I can imagine the connectors could be a little awkward in tight spots though. The last and more uncommon one is a softer more standard looking hose with a spiral wire reinforcement. This one can be cut and needs no special clamp ends. Any suggestions or experiences would be welcome.. Thank you.. Geoff.
Surely people that travel, especially if towing.
HAVE enough sense (by now)to carry the basics.
Hoses. Belts.fluids. WKSP Manual, and some tools.
We've written enough about it over the yrs.
OLD ADAGE..
"Have and not want. Rather than WANT and not have."
The best insurance anybody can carry.
If YOU can't.
Somebody coming along will do for you.
And if you get stuck somewhere in Whup Whup for lack of a hose.belt, etc.
for a week or more.
Welllll.
Plus..... hoses.
Bastar--sed hoses, MADE to fit.
On Corrugated or rough roads.
Will tend to shake loose.
with the differing stresses on differing shaped forced into them
to MAKE them fit..
Seriously.... NOT good for water retention hey.
A burst Hose. Bearing. Belt. whatever.
which costs tens of $$$'s locally.
Could end up costing YOU a coupla Thousand.
PLUS a week out of your trip and inconvenience of.
PLEASE.... Think ahead. and don't be miserly...
You're the ones it'll likely happen to.
-- Edited by macka17 on Monday 17th of July 2017 10:49:06 AM
All the hoses you mention will work. If you're desperate, then grab whatever will fit. The internal diameter of the hose will determine how much water will leak out after you've busted your knuckles trying to get the clamps tight. In my experience the ones that are corrugated over their entire length are hardest to fit, but that said, if the diameter is right it's a workable solution. Here's hoping you never need to use them.
Thanks Guys.. all very helpful information.. I travel with just about every tool and likely spare I can think of. Haven't ever not been able to get to the next destination.. The hoses however are not easy to find for an 06 Ssangyong Kyron.. Now stop your bloody laughing..! It has done a lot of good economical work for 5 years.. Has a few strange quirks but don't they all..? Even Repco don't list these hoses.. Though they do have the brake pads, oil and air filters etc.. Recently done some work on it to raise engine temperature. Long story.. Ask if you want to know why and how. That will put a bit more strain on the rubber so I thought I'd be prepared.. Safe Travels.. Geoff.
Ssamyong. Parts\hoses.
They probably have in country of MFG.
I thought those engines were Mercedes Based??.
Check that model engine on Mercedes pages.
Just MAybe?????.
Agree, suction side MUST be reinforced ie wire inside or they can collapse.
Yes but if you do that you may as well buy the correct hose I think the OP was suggesting carry 1 convoluted radiator hose length and cut /fit as necessary but I could be wrong( again).
Joe