Whenever I go to the doctor, mechanics financial advisor, salesman etc, just before the meeting I set my mobile phone to "voice record" and slip it in my top pocket. When leaving I stop the recording.
Afterwards if I need to refresh my memory as to exactly what the doctor etc said I can simply play it back. This is especially handy if your hearing like mine is not 100% and you miss some words. Can also help when taking something back under guarantee.
Costs nothing and saves you worrying that you missed something.
Good Luck.
Mike Harding said
08:08 PM Jul 10, 2017
I really, really do hope you tell them you are recording what they say.
Jewel said
08:18 PM Jul 10, 2017
Good idea Hako.
When I go to the Drs I walk in with my iPad, flip it open and proceed to read off my questions.
I type in his/her replies then walk out knowing I won't get home and wonder what test I was supposed to have done or what tablet I had to take when.
That way I walk out just as empty headed as when I walked in and nobody's the wiser.
Yuglamron said
08:21 PM Jul 10, 2017
Why Mike?
Recording laws in most jurisdictions in Australia changed years ago. Only have to tell them if you intend to broadcast the recording.
One of the reason's cops don't like you recording them if they stop you ,Nothing they can do and there have been court cases that have upheld your right to record for your own use to help your memory.
aussie_paul said
09:14 PM Jul 10, 2017
hako wrote:
Whenever I go to the doctor, mechanics financial advisor, salesman etc, just before the meeting I set my mobile phone to "voice record" and slip it in my top pocket. When leaving I stop the recording.
Afterwards if I need to refresh my memory as to exactly what the doctor etc said I can simply play it back. This is especially handy if your hearing like mine is not 100% and you miss some words. Can also help when taking something back under guarantee.
Costs nothing and saves you worrying that you missed something.
Good Luck.
Great idea and have been doing that for a while Hako. From what I have found out as long as you are part of the recorded conversation you don't have to worry.
Dmaxer might help here.
Aussie Paul.
Ge said
10:30 PM Jul 10, 2017
Good idea Hako, i think you may have stumped the instant experts, the self rightious and the trolls as they haven't shown up yet and there is a lot on these forums things .
Keep it up and good luck. Ge
landy said
10:37 PM Jul 10, 2017
I googled the other day whether it was legal to take somebody's photo without permission. One of the sites it took me to said photo's are OK but voice recordings are not unless you have the other persons consent. Whether true or not it would probably be courteous to ask. Landy
Mike Harding said
05:56 AM Jul 11, 2017
Yuglamron wrote:
Why Mike?
Recording laws in most jurisdictions in Australia changed years ago. Only have to tell them if you intend to broadcast the recording.
Why!?
Common courtesy. That quality which, so often these days, is in short supply.
Not everyone who does you the courtesy of talking with you wants their every word recorded on a hidden device.
TheHeaths said
06:26 AM Jul 11, 2017
Forgetting the legalities, which I do not know, and have no desire to look up, I guess my question would be this.
If you found out that you were being recorded without your knowledge by somebody, how would you react?
If you would be happy to find that out, regardless of the reason for them recording, or the use of the recording, then perhaps it is ok.
But if you would be upset by that, then I suggest that you explain why you would like to record the conversation, and ask if that is ok. I also think it would be common courtesy to at least advise them prior to recording.
-- Edited by TheHeaths on Tuesday 11th of July 2017 06:27:36 AM
hako said
08:03 AM Jul 11, 2017
Maybe we should ask whoever we are conversing with for permission to remember this conversation, after all, my memory is legal evidence in a court of law. Think about it.
We already have our images and voices recorded virtually everywhere we go.
Regards
Hey Jim said
08:34 AM Jul 11, 2017
Hi Hako,
I need it myself. I have an iphone 5.
Have looked under settings. Can you help, cause my marbles keep escaping through my ear holes. PS: some get stopped by the Murphies within.. Thank god.
Jim
Ge said
08:42 AM Jul 11, 2017
Ge wrote:
Good idea Hako, i think you may have stumped the instant experts, the self rightious and the trolls as they haven't shown up yet and there is a lot on these forums things . Keep it up and good luck. Ge
Sorry Hako i opened my big mouth"so to speak" now the instant experts, the self rightious and the trolls are coming.
Hey Jim said
08:47 AM Jul 11, 2017
Hi Dennis,
Don't worry, I found my marbles and popped them back in just now.
I found under Extra's.. Thanks.
Jim
-- Edited by Hey Jim on Tuesday 11th of July 2017 09:01:32 AM
Desert Dweller said
08:49 AM Jul 11, 2017
Do you keep your phone in your shoe like Maxwell Smart?
Hey Jim said
08:59 AM Jul 11, 2017
I see a can of worms in front of us.
Its Ok for ALL Police to both film and record the LOT. So do the Council Rangers. What about our civil rights to do likewise. I like it.
Hullo Demaxer, are you up yet. Its 9am. Up and at em.
Jim
Santa said
09:52 AM Jul 11, 2017
Well! this is certainly a popcorn thread.
Could just be a hint of paranoia about today.
RustyD said
10:02 AM Jul 11, 2017
I'm old tech. Just write all my doc's questions on a piece of paper and then write the answers next to the questions. Just got to remember to take the note, a pen and my reading glasses.
macka17 said
04:02 PM Jul 11, 2017
I have a little hand held recorder. Doctors etc use when taking notes.
If meaning to remember anything.
I hang it on a cord round my neck. So it records all my words. and any replies.
Out in open and everybody knows.
You don't want recording. Don't talk to me. Simple.
Same as camera in car. Forward and inward lenses.
Takes every word that is said within range.
Any lawman etc picks me.
I have "legal", short term memory loss (brain damage from bike accident.)
and it recorded on my medical records as such.
So my taping of MY conversations, accepted as such in court.
Bin there.
As is the conversation inside car
when showing car camera recordings to lawyers.
Eaglemax said
04:03 PM Jul 11, 2017
Aussie Paul is right.
"Federal law permits recording telephone calls and in-person conversations with the consent of at least one of the parties. See 18 U.S.C. 2511(2)(d). This is called a "one-party consent" law. Under a one-party consent law, you can record a phone call or conversation so long as you are a party to the conversation."
Just stating the law. Back in the turn of the century it was totally illegal I believe.
Cloudy said
05:19 PM Jul 11, 2017
Eaglemax,
You are quoting from Title 18 of the United States Code. Fine if the discussion is about what is legal in the USA but I think the rest of the blokes are referring to the Australian legal environment.
RustyD said
06:03 PM Jul 11, 2017
Rang an electricity retailer a few years ago regarding solar panels. Got the usual spiel about this call will be recorded for clarity & training purpose - please let us know if you don't want it recorded. Didn't say anything as per normal. Turns out leaving the recording on was a good thing and the salesperson was full of ****e and I eventually won my case of misleading information thanks to the recording. Got out of two contracts with the retailer.
Eaglemax said
08:11 PM Jul 11, 2017
Errr...thanks cloudy
I'll crawl under my rock now :)
PeterD said
11:04 PM Jul 11, 2017
You could always do a search on the subject (that is what I keep getting told when asking for a link on this and other forums.)
Each State and Territory has legislation on surveillance and listening devices (see below).
As a general rule, if a person is not a party to a private conversation, that person is prohibited from secretly recording or using a device to listen to that conversation. (NB: Exceptions to the general rule exist for law enforcement purposes)
On the other hand, if a person is a party to a private conversation, there is an interesting divergence in the law for different States and Territories.
In Victoria, Queensland and the NT, a person who secretly records a private conversation to which that person is a party does not appear to be in breach of surveillance legislation. On the contrary, legislation in WA, SA, ACT, NSW and Tasmania expressly prohibits such conduct.
Note that publication or communication of any recording of a private conversation is prohibited in all jurisdictions. Save for in NSW, there is an exception for publication or communication made in the course of legal proceedings.
Cruising Cruze said
07:29 PM Jul 12, 2017
Hi Denis
We all need from time to time an little help with our memory Good on you Dennis for that tip We both have on our phones for calls received I did not know that you can do it on an normal conversation as well
Cheers John
-- Edited by Cruising Cruze on Wednesday 12th of July 2017 07:30:35 PM
Whenever I go to the doctor, mechanics financial advisor, salesman etc, just before the meeting I set my mobile phone to "voice record" and slip it in my top pocket. When leaving I stop the recording.
Afterwards if I need to refresh my memory as to exactly what the doctor etc said I can simply play it back. This is especially handy if your hearing like mine is not 100% and you miss some words. Can also help when taking something back under guarantee.
Costs nothing and saves you worrying that you missed something.
Good Luck.
Good idea Hako.
When I go to the Drs I walk in with my iPad, flip it open and proceed to read off my questions.
I type in his/her replies then walk out knowing I won't get home and wonder what test I was supposed to have done or what tablet I had to take when.
That way I walk out just as empty headed as when I walked in and nobody's the wiser.
Why Mike?
Recording laws in most jurisdictions in Australia changed years ago. Only have to tell them if you intend to broadcast the recording.
One of the reason's cops don't like you recording them if they stop you ,Nothing they can do and there have been court cases that have upheld your right to record for your own use to help your memory.
Great idea and have been doing that for a while Hako. From what I have found out as long as you are part of the recorded conversation you don't have to worry.
Dmaxer might help here.
Aussie Paul.
Keep it up and good luck. Ge
Landy
Why!?
Common courtesy. That quality which, so often these days, is in short supply.
Not everyone who does you the courtesy of talking with you wants their every word recorded on a hidden device.
Forgetting the legalities, which I do not know, and have no desire to look up, I guess my question would be this.
If you found out that you were being recorded without your knowledge by somebody, how would you react?
If you would be happy to find that out, regardless of the reason for them recording, or the use of the recording, then perhaps it is ok.
But if you would be upset by that, then I suggest that you explain why you would like to record the conversation, and ask if that is ok. I also think it would be common courtesy to at least advise them prior to recording.
-- Edited by TheHeaths on Tuesday 11th of July 2017 06:27:36 AM
We already have our images and voices recorded virtually everywhere we go.
Regards
Hi Hako,
I need it myself. I have an iphone 5.
Have looked under settings
. Can you help, cause my marbles keep escaping through my ear holes.
PS: some get stopped by the Murphies within.
. Thank god.
Jim
Sorry Hako i opened my big mouth"so to speak" now the instant experts, the self rightious and the trolls are coming.
Hi Dennis,
Don't worry, I found my marbles and popped them back in just now.
I found under Extra's.
. Thanks.
Jim
-- Edited by Hey Jim on Tuesday 11th of July 2017 09:01:32 AM
Do you keep your phone in your shoe like Maxwell Smart?
I see a can of worms in front of us.
Its Ok for ALL Police to both film and record the LOT. So do the Council Rangers. What about our civil rights to do likewise. I like it.
Hullo Demaxer, are you up yet. Its 9am. Up and at em.
Jim
Well! this is certainly a popcorn thread.
Could just be a hint of paranoia about today.
If meaning to remember anything.
I hang it on a cord round my neck. So it records all my words. and any replies.
Out in open and everybody knows.
You don't want recording. Don't talk to me. Simple.
Same as camera in car. Forward and inward lenses.
Takes every word that is said within range.
Any lawman etc picks me.
I have "legal", short term memory loss (brain damage from bike accident.)
and it recorded on my medical records as such.
So my taping of MY conversations, accepted as such in court.
Bin there.
As is the conversation inside car
when showing car camera recordings to lawyers.
Eaglemax,
You are quoting from Title 18 of the United States Code. Fine if the discussion is about what is legal in the USA but I think the rest of the blokes are referring to the Australian legal environment.
You could always do a search on the subject (that is what I keep getting told when asking for a link on this and other forums.)
Have a look at this page.
2. Legal Framework
Each State and Territory has legislation on surveillance and listening devices (see below).
As a general rule, if a person is not a party to a private conversation, that person is prohibited from secretly recording or using a device to listen to that conversation. (NB: Exceptions to the general rule exist for law enforcement purposes)
On the other hand, if a person is a party to a private conversation, there is an interesting divergence in the law for different States and Territories.
In Victoria, Queensland and the NT, a person who secretly records a private conversation to which that person is a party does not appear to be in breach of surveillance legislation. On the contrary, legislation in WA, SA, ACT, NSW and Tasmania expressly prohibits such conduct.
Note that publication or communication of any recording of a private conversation is prohibited in all jurisdictions. Save for in NSW, there is an exception for publication or communication made in the course of legal proceedings.
Hi Denis
We all need from time to time an little help with our memory
Good on you Dennis for that tip
We both have on our phones for calls received
I did not know that you can do it on an normal conversation as well
Cheers John
-- Edited by Cruising Cruze on Wednesday 12th of July 2017 07:30:35 PM