Hi All, I just want to ask if anyone ever tried using medical cannabis as an alternative meds? I have read many articles about medical marijuana and how it can help you in terms of chronic pain, glaucoma, eating disorder/anorexia, anxiety disorders and panic attacks, inflammation, even cancer and a lot more. Cbd and thc are also new to me and I don't even smoke. If this is true I cant find any solid conclusive evidence that speaks to its efficacy. Any personal experience or testimonial would be highly appreciated. Thanks
Aus-Kiwi said
10:36 PM Jul 5, 2017
I THINK some try to use it as a way to pass legislation to take it legally ? The medical oil has the THC taken out tmk . But hey if it works ? I'm
All for it ! Or atleast test to find out why and how ??
Possum3 said
01:53 PM Jul 6, 2017
Peter, Having spent a large portion of my previous employment attempting to reduce the amount of those in the populace from inflicting the effect of drug consumption on the community, I have difficulty in allowing any relaxation of Cannabis regulations - I have first hand knowledge of how many users end up as Schizophrenia cases - this may be able to be reduced in clinical applications BUT, to my knowledge there is no empirical evidence that general consumption of cannabis at large is safe, not only to the user but to the general population in vicinity of users.
I am in favour of the use of cannabis oil only under strict medical guidelines, preferably in hospitals or facilities where it can't be abused and the patient is under the control of medical professionals, similarly to all other opioids, otherwise patients in Palliative care.
jules47 said
01:55 PM Jul 6, 2017
"Medical Mariajuana" as they call it does work. Have seen a young person with severe jerking "fits" constantly, settled down within five minutes of a drop of oil under tongue from a toothpick - only need a drop the size of a toothpick head - she, and her parents, were able to get some sleep at last, the whole family was exhausted, and such a simple thing as an extract from a "herb" is all it took. Why would you not use it if it works. Great for pain - there are two types, you would need to find out which one you would need for your particular problem.
I suppose we have all seen the videos available on Parkinsons sufferers getting almost instant relief from smoking a joint - yes it works.
Trouble is, the big pharma companies want to monopolize the products, and they will start making synthetic products - why, when the herb is so easy to grow.
Another thing that helps a lot of people is canna butter - make it yourself - unsalted butter, some greenery, good tablespoon or so of coconut oil (to make it smoother) - yummy - brownies, banana cake, savouries - anything you would use butter for. Delicious and a different effect than smoking.+
If you are serious about the use of this product for yourself, head to Nimbin, go to the Hemp Bar, talk to the guys there, they are the experts.
jules47 said
02:04 PM Jul 6, 2017
Possum - the medical mariajuana that is used is not hallucinatory - that part is removed during the process. It is for treatment of many, many inflictions.
As for the schitzophrenia - you would probably find that these people have a problem to start with, and would most likely drink alcohol at the same time - have seen this many times. There was a guy who lived in a small town, who smoked daily, he was given not long to live, if he didn't take his prescribed medications - he moved to an area where he could access Gunja, and lived for about 25 years till he was well in his 70's, independently and happy and well.
You are also talking in the past - the current information is that the byproducts of mariajuana or weed or cannabis, call it what you will, is highly effective in cases of Parkinsons, Epilepsy, some cancers - pain, sleeplessness, and much more.
Read some information coming out of the Hemp Embassy or Hemp Party - you will be surprised how far it has come.
brickies said
02:39 PM Jul 6, 2017
Maybe if the law maker let people use grass they may have not turned to ice .
Possum3 said
03:21 PM Jul 6, 2017
Sorry guys - I'm only going on information from Monash, and experience as a Drug Officer for over 12 years - yes there are some fantastic results from medical marijuana - but I reiterate under medical conditions in clinics and hospitals - letting it loose in the community could be a recipe for disaster IMHO, it would be a precursor to every dope fiend getting a prescription from "friendly" doctor to hide the use of "Wacky-Backy" .
It is now legal to use in clinical situations and palliative care and that's how it should stay - Spend a couple of nights in a cop car in western suburbs of all Capital Cities - and find out how safe is marijuana - the Nimbin hemp purveyors don't give a sh*t about prolonged use and consequential use of meth amphetamines, so I would be loath to take any recommendation/advice from them. Sorry Brickies my experience is that it is entry to all other drugs.
I have researched and read every single thing I can find on Medical Marijuana. Just in case my diagnosis of all clear for another 3 months changes it's mind.
Very interesting reading. The cannabis oil has the nasty bits removed and makes it safe for medicinal purposes.
You can also buy Hemp Seed at the markets which is virtually the same thing.
I will keep it all in mind just in case.
jules47 said
08:49 PM Jul 6, 2017
Possum3 wrote:
Sorry guys - I'm only going on information from Monash, and experience as a Drug Officer for over 12 years - yes there are some fantastic results from medical marijuana - but I reiterate under medical conditions in clinics and hospitals - letting it loose in the community could be a recipe for disaster IMHO, it would be a precursor to every dope fiend getting a prescription from "friendly" doctor to hide the use of "Wacky-Backy" . It is now legal to use in clinical situations and palliative care and that's how it should stay - Spend a couple of nights in a cop car in western suburbs of all Capital Cities - and find out how safe is marijuana - the Nimbin hemp purveyors don't give a sh*t about prolonged use and consequential use of meth amphetamines, so I would be loath to take any recommendation/advice from them. Sorry Brickies my experience is that it is entry to all other drugs.
Possum - what would be prescribed by a doctor would be an oil, or tincture, which has the halucogens remove; - if it came that the mariajuana - bud - that is smoked to get high, it would be available in gelcaps, as in America, - possibly 1gram per capsule, and 7 capsules in a prescription. This is using the bud product as a medication. Not going to get too much buzz off 7 grams I wouldn't think.
jules47 said
08:59 PM Jul 6, 2017
MotabatoMan - Hi - sorry for hijacking your post - but it is a hobby horse of mine -
and - Possum - sorry for coming on strong - but as I say - it is my hobby horse
Possum, what is a "drug officer" and what were you doing in police cars in Western Sydney?
Is this another facet of your law enforcement background?
Some forum members might mistakenly think you were once in the NSW Police.
Possum3 said
11:35 AM Jul 7, 2017
@ DMaxer - I could care less what you think - Those who know me "Know Me", grow up and get a life.
DMaxer said
10:19 AM Jul 9, 2017
-- Edited by DMaxer on Sunday 9th of July 2017 10:30:36 AM
aussie_paul said
12:45 PM Jul 9, 2017
I have done my due diligence and would certainly like to have a trial with medical Marijuana. Nothing else helps my pain. It has nothing to do with "druggies" at all.
Aussie Paul.
toglhot said
05:32 PM Aug 13, 2017
FYI: Cannabis has a plethora of components to its makeup; however, the components of interest in cannabis are THC and CBD. The cannabis usually referred to as Mary Jane, grass, and weed has a very high THC content and a very low CBD content. THC is the ingredient that causes the halucinatory or getting high effect.
Medicinal cannabis has a very low THC component and a very high CBD content, CBD is the component that 'may' help with pain, seizures and so on.
The THC content in medicinal cannabis is so low that if you were to smoke or ingest a truckload of the stuff in one sitting you still would not get high, it is impossible to get high on medicinal cannabis.
Unfortunately, our government and those who are against legalising medicinal cannabis seem intent on ignoring these 'facts' and want ridiculous measures put in place in pursuance of their personal agendas.
Now, if someone has a real and intelligent gripe with mind altering drugs, why not apply that same beligerence to beer, wines and spirits. When you consider more people are killed or injured as a result of excess alcohol consumption than THC ingestion, there doesn't seem a lot of intelligence applied to their argument.
Hemp oil, a derivative of the cannabis plant and also the oil used for medicinal purposes is and has been legal to sell in Australia since forever, I recently bought some on ebay to try, unfortunately, I don't think the CBD content was high enough for any effect. This is the difficulty in buying the stuff, none of the suppliers list the amount of CBD in their product, rather they use 'rich in CBD' rhetoric, which could and does mean nothing.
Hemp oil is used in cosmetics and a number of other everyday products we all use every day. Sellers are required, by law, to include the warning 'not to be ingested' with their product - ridiculous! You cannot get high on it.
Incidentally, whilst medicinal cannabis is now legal, it can only be prescribed by a specialist Doctor, GPs cannot prescribe it. In SA, not one specialist has applied for licence to prescribe it. I would assume SA is not not alone.
With all this nonsense surrounding medicinal cannabis and the difficulty in obtaining it guess where people turn - anywhere they can get it, medicinal or otherwise. These ridiculous constraints cause everyday Australians who suffer from chronic pain to shoot themselves in the foot by buying illicit cannabis or cannabis they have no idea of its makeup.
Big brother is alive and well and making sure the chronically ill will continue to suffer for as long as our govt and the anti cannabis brigade decide.
jules47 said
08:01 PM Aug 27, 2017
toglhot - you are spot on with your post - re a personal story - friend has absolute chronic pain - internal damage which can't be repaired, she has been on a drug called Lyrica - horrible drug which is killing people.
With the use of two different types of cannabis oil, she has dropped her use of Lyrica from 900mg per day to 300mg per day - and hopefully able to stop completely. Yes she is breaking the law, her supplier is breaking the law. If anyone wants to know more about the oils - head dto the Hemp Embassy at Nimbin - the Hemp Bar next door is the place to sit and discuss with very knowlegable(?) people the pros and cons - many more pros than cons for sure.
Hi All, I just want to ask if anyone ever tried using medical cannabis as an alternative meds? I have read many articles about medical marijuana and how it can help you in terms of chronic pain, glaucoma, eating disorder/anorexia, anxiety disorders and panic attacks, inflammation, even cancer and a lot more. Cbd and thc are also new to me and I don't even smoke. If this is true I cant find any solid conclusive evidence that speaks to its efficacy. Any personal experience or testimonial would be highly appreciated. Thanks
I am in favour of the use of cannabis oil only under strict medical guidelines, preferably in hospitals or facilities where it can't be abused and the patient is under the control of medical professionals, similarly to all other opioids, otherwise patients in Palliative care.
I suppose we have all seen the videos available on Parkinsons sufferers getting almost instant relief from smoking a joint - yes it works.
Trouble is, the big pharma companies want to monopolize the products, and they will start making synthetic products - why, when the herb is so easy to grow.
Another thing that helps a lot of people is canna butter - make it yourself - unsalted butter, some greenery, good tablespoon or so of coconut oil (to make it smoother) - yummy - brownies, banana cake, savouries - anything you would use butter for. Delicious and a different effect than smoking.+
If you are serious about the use of this product for yourself, head to Nimbin, go to the Hemp Bar, talk to the guys there, they are the experts.
Possum - the medical mariajuana that is used is not hallucinatory - that part is removed during the process. It is for treatment of many, many inflictions.
As for the schitzophrenia - you would probably find that these people have a problem to start with, and would most likely drink alcohol at the same time - have seen this many times. There was a guy who lived in a small town, who smoked daily, he was given not long to live, if he didn't take his prescribed medications - he moved to an area where he could access Gunja, and lived for about 25 years till he was well in his 70's, independently and happy and well.
You are also talking in the past - the current information is that the byproducts of mariajuana or weed or cannabis, call it what you will, is highly effective in cases of Parkinsons, Epilepsy, some cancers - pain, sleeplessness, and much more.
Read some information coming out of the Hemp Embassy or Hemp Party - you will be surprised how far it has come.
It is now legal to use in clinical situations and palliative care and that's how it should stay - Spend a couple of nights in a cop car in western suburbs of all Capital Cities - and find out how safe is marijuana - the Nimbin hemp purveyors don't give a sh*t about prolonged use and consequential use of meth amphetamines, so I would be loath to take any recommendation/advice from them. Sorry Brickies my experience is that it is entry to all other drugs.
www.businessinsider.com.au/medical-marijuana-is-now-legal-in-australia-2016-2
Very interesting reading. The cannabis oil has the nasty bits removed and makes it safe for medicinal purposes.
You can also buy Hemp Seed at the markets which is virtually the same thing.
I will keep it all in mind just in case.
Possum - what would be prescribed by a doctor would be an oil, or tincture, which has the halucogens remove; - if it came that the mariajuana - bud - that is smoked to get high, it would be available in gelcaps, as in America, - possibly 1gram per capsule, and 7 capsules in a prescription. This is using the bud product as a medication. Not going to get too much buzz off 7 grams I wouldn't think.
MotabatoMan - Hi - sorry for hijacking your post - but it is a hobby horse of mine -
and - Possum - sorry for coming on strong - but as I say - it is my hobby horse
-- Edited by DMaxer on Sunday 9th of July 2017 10:30:36 AM
I have done my due diligence and would certainly like to have a trial with medical Marijuana. Nothing else helps my pain.
It has nothing to do with "druggies" at all.
Aussie Paul.
Medicinal cannabis has a very low THC component and a very high CBD content, CBD is the component that 'may' help with pain, seizures and so on.
The THC content in medicinal cannabis is so low that if you were to smoke or ingest a truckload of the stuff in one sitting you still would not get high, it is impossible to get high on medicinal cannabis.
Unfortunately, our government and those who are against legalising medicinal cannabis seem intent on ignoring these 'facts' and want ridiculous measures put in place in pursuance of their personal agendas.
Now, if someone has a real and intelligent gripe with mind altering drugs, why not apply that same beligerence to beer, wines and spirits. When you consider more people are killed or injured as a result of excess alcohol consumption than THC ingestion, there doesn't seem a lot of intelligence applied to their argument.
Hemp oil, a derivative of the cannabis plant and also the oil used for medicinal purposes is and has been legal to sell in Australia since forever, I recently bought some on ebay to try, unfortunately, I don't think the CBD content was high enough for any effect. This is the difficulty in buying the stuff, none of the suppliers list the amount of CBD in their product, rather they use 'rich in CBD' rhetoric, which could and does mean nothing.
Hemp oil is used in cosmetics and a number of other everyday products we all use every day. Sellers are required, by law, to include the warning 'not to be ingested' with their product - ridiculous! You cannot get high on it.
Incidentally, whilst medicinal cannabis is now legal, it can only be prescribed by a specialist Doctor, GPs cannot prescribe it. In SA, not one specialist has applied for licence to prescribe it. I would assume SA is not not alone.
With all this nonsense surrounding medicinal cannabis and the difficulty in obtaining it guess where people turn - anywhere they can get it, medicinal or otherwise. These ridiculous constraints cause everyday Australians who suffer from chronic pain to shoot themselves in the foot by buying illicit cannabis or cannabis they have no idea of its makeup.
Big brother is alive and well and making sure the chronically ill will continue to suffer for as long as our govt and the anti cannabis brigade decide.
With the use of two different types of cannabis oil, she has dropped her use of Lyrica from 900mg per day to 300mg per day - and hopefully able to stop completely. Yes she is breaking the law, her supplier is breaking the law. If anyone wants to know more about the oils - head dto the Hemp Embassy at Nimbin - the Hemp Bar next door is the place to sit and discuss with very knowlegable(?) people the pros and cons - many more pros than cons for sure.
Sorry for my spelling, I am currently "medicated"