I have found two good vans on net, both interstate - I live in SA.
No. 1 2008 Jayco Conquest, manual, only 40,000 klms, manual, pristine condition, diesel heater, nice bull bar and large fitted Storage Box on back. Registered 3 months. $60,000. Tasmania, so air fare and spirit Tasmania to get home, plus $2000 stamp duty SA. Deceased estate.
No. 2 2008 Jayco Conquest, automatic, 106,000 klms, assured in pristine condition, no diesel heater, no bull bar, registered 3 months, $50,000. Western Australia, so air fare plus long drive home over Nullabor, plus $1600 stamps duty SA.
They both sound really good but which one?
Your opinions again thanks
Helen
Hetho said
07:42 PM Jul 3, 2017
Hi Helen.
I would get a price on the Spirit of Tas, costs to get to the Mainland; which may help you make up yor mind.
The Auto has a few more K`s, but if your going to do some serious travels I would go for the auto.
You can always add a diesel heater if needed, (It possibly has a Air con/heater unit) and I dont believe you "Need" a Bull Bar, (often cause more damage than those without) plus storage boxes on the rear are some times filled with heavy objects that can affect your stability on road. If you have a need for one, they are not that expensive and can always be added later.
The big plus for the WA one is you will get to experience the wonderful Nullabor on your way home.
Either way, I would goin the RAC, and get them to do an inspection on both vehicles for piece of mind.
Now; here is a big advantage of purchasing the WA auto. I am a Fitter by trade and live in Mandurah WA, next door neighbour if a Motor Mechanic and is a licensed DOT Inspection Agent.
If you need, I could View/test drive/DOT Inspect/and deliver to SA. I have done this often in WA. Last purchase(on clients behalf) and delivery was from Perth to Broome.
Hope all of this helps, and if I can be of assistance please get in touch.
Regards.
Hetho.
Woody n Sue said
07:42 PM Jul 3, 2017
What chassis are they on and diesel or petrol
Possum3 said
07:45 PM Jul 3, 2017
What truck is under the Jayco? Petrol or Diesel? Are they FWD or Rear wheel drive? Same wheels or dual wheels on rear? If all else equal the Tasmanian one would appear to be better buy.
Possum3 said
07:46 PM Jul 3, 2017
Sorry Hetho - typing faster than me.
jules47 said
07:57 PM Jul 3, 2017
Reckon Hetho has made a great offer there, adreamer - might be a good thing to contact him. Sounds a nice bloke.
Mike Harding said
08:01 PM Jul 3, 2017
Hetho wrote:The Auto has a few more K`s, but if your going to do some serious travels I would go for the auto.
Why do you say that?
Automatics certainly have an advantage if one is regularly doing city driving but for distance driving where one seldom changes gear I can see no advantage and, indeed, some disadvantages due to increased fuel consumption and a more complicated gearbox.
adreamer said
08:10 PM Jul 3, 2017
These vehicles are both Diesel on a Fiat not sure about front wheel or rear wheel. by the way this is a 20 footer, does not have the cab over bed. (They are around the 23ft).
Hendo will send you a pm. by the way this van is in Margaret River. Very kind of you to offer.
The spirit of Tasmania has a special on towards end of August - $288 One way to Melbourne.
This is a hard decision, but will take any advice.
Helen
drax said
11:51 PM Jul 3, 2017
66000 Klms is a big difference, an inspection is a must.
daffyfrancis said
11:54 PM Jul 3, 2017
Check what engine each one has - Fiat have 2.3lt or 3.0lt engines .
I think most would find the 3.0lt more preferable, a better drive overall, hold its value better as it will appeal to more buyers on resale.
David
montie said
08:01 AM Jul 4, 2017
The model you are looking is the FD20...20ft lenght. All Fiats are FWD.
Ask the question but I think the FD20 had the 3.0 litre back then.
Fiat auto's can be troublesome so have it carefully checked. On the other hand the auto will have much better resale value.
That model still sells new for around $100k
Montie
daffyfrancis said
10:22 AM Jul 4, 2017
Hi again Helen,
If the Tasmanian one is as advertised on Gumtree Tas it looks excellent value & even though it is a manual I can see why it has caught your interest.
Regards
David
macka17 said
11:52 AM Jul 4, 2017
I'd tend to look at some other MFG's too.
Aust ones much better quality build.
Rear wheel drive is always better than front in that size of vehicle.
That's car transmissin\driving gear. not truck.
Coupla times I've had to tow some car\boats UP the ramp
cause the front wh drive veh, wheels just spinning.
The same will go for grassy surfaces in soome parking areas.
Just sit and spin.
Plus the gearing and shafts used for such.
Are a lot lighter built than full axles.
Just a coupla thorts.
I remember reading that those Euro Veh's don't have the most reliable Electronics either.
Specially the VW versions. and their Constant, Auto's are a big no no..
PeterD said
12:09 PM Jul 4, 2017
adreamer wrote: and large fitted Storage Box on back.
You say it is a FWD. A lot of those FWD motorhomes are built on a chassis that is easily changed in length to suit. They keep the wheelbase as short as possible. That means that the rear overhang is already the maximum permitted length when the unit leaves the factory. That means that if you add storage or a bike rack on the rear your motorhome is over length. You could be in trouble if a picky copper pulls you over. If you get that one then check if the box needs to be removed.
jules47 said
01:02 PM Jul 4, 2017
So many differing views here - do any of you have the Fiat Ducato with Jayco "house"? We do, 2010 model - yes - front wheel drive - yes - manual/auto -
yes - very easy to drive - yes - very comfortable - yes - a good mechanic is needed (we have a trusted one) - but have had work done when necessary at other places, always get our own mechanic to check it when we get to him. (No major problems - done close to 160,000k)/
Having said all this - do you know most of the motorhomes in Europe are on Fiat base - the front wheel drive is not a problem, if you are aware of where you park - making sure you have good access to the exit or road.
Good luck with whatever you choose Helen (adreamer) - live your dream!
Cupie said
02:11 PM Jul 4, 2017
I had a quick look around the net for that model.
Looks like great prices.
Make a quick decision ... based of course on good mechanical report & REVS (Encumbrances) checks.
Tony Bev said
03:01 PM Jul 4, 2017
Hello adreamer This may or may not be applicable to the below vehicle
No. 1 2008 Jayco Conquest, manual, only 40,000 klms, manual, pristine condition, diesel heater, nice bull bar and large fitted Storage Box on back. Registered 3 months. $60,000. Tasmania, so air fare and spirit Tasmania to get home, plus $2000 stamp duty SA. Deceased estate.
I met a couple who were travelling in a similar vehicle They had opted to have a diesel heater instead of an air conditioner (Jayco option?) So there is at least one vehicle of this type without a factory fitted air conditioner I have no idea of the cost of an air conditioner, if you require one
adreamer said
04:04 PM Jul 4, 2017
Tony Bev wrote:
Hello adreamer This may or may not be applicable to the below vehicle
No. 1 2008 Jayco Conquest, manual, only 40,000 klms, manual, pristine condition, diesel heater, nice bull bar and large fitted Storage Box on back. Registered 3 months. $60,000. Tasmania, so air fare and spirit Tasmania to get home, plus $2000 stamp duty SA. Deceased estate.
I met a couple who were travelling in a similar vehicle They had opted to have a diesel heater instead of an air conditioner (Jayco option?) So there is at least one vehicle of this type without a factory fitted air conditioner I have no idea of the cost of an air conditioner, if you require one
Hi Tony Bev, Have gone with the one In Tasmania and it has both air con and the diesel Heater.
Pick it on 4th August. Never been to Tas so will spend 2 weeks having a look around.
Thank you.
Helen
Tony Bev said
04:16 PM Jul 4, 2017
Hope you enjoy the new motor home, Helen
My model 2006 Fiat Ducato with Jayco factory build, is not the same as yours as I have a different engine and gearbox, which changed early 2007
That is why I did not comment, on the ones you were looking at
Cupie said
04:25 PM Jul 4, 2017
adreamer wrote:
Hi Tony Bev, Have gone with the one In Tasmania and it has both air con and the diesel Heater.
Pick it on 4th August. Never been to Tas so will spend 2 weeks having a look around.
Thank you.
Helen
Congrats ... A good decision I hope.
Perhaps a month might be good ... If you can stand the cold .... THe heater may address that though.
Happy camping.
-- Edited by Cupie on Tuesday 4th of July 2017 04:27:09 PM
montie said
06:06 PM Jul 4, 2017
Adreamer,
Two important things you need to check before handing over your hard earned.
1) Do a PPSR check to ensure there is no money owing on the vehicle and it is not stolen or on the written off register.
Google PPSR and you can do it online. You will need the Vin number.
2) Ensure the seller is the legal owner. You can do this by checking the rego papers and asking for the sellers ID to compare. Only pay a nominal deposit when you do the deal and the balance when you pick it up.
I have found two good vans on net, both interstate - I live in SA.
No. 1 2008 Jayco Conquest, manual, only 40,000 klms, manual, pristine condition, diesel heater, nice bull bar and large fitted Storage Box on back. Registered 3 months. $60,000. Tasmania, so air fare and spirit Tasmania to get home, plus $2000 stamp duty SA. Deceased estate.
No. 2 2008 Jayco Conquest, automatic, 106,000 klms, assured in pristine condition, no diesel heater, no bull bar, registered 3 months, $50,000. Western Australia, so air fare plus long drive home over Nullabor, plus $1600 stamps duty SA.
They both sound really good but which one?
Your opinions again thanks
Helen
Hi Helen.
I would get a price on the Spirit of Tas, costs to get to the Mainland; which may help you make up yor mind.
The Auto has a few more K`s, but if your going to do some serious travels I would go for the auto.
You can always add a diesel heater if needed, (It possibly has a Air con/heater unit) and I dont believe you "Need" a Bull Bar, (often cause more damage than those without) plus storage boxes on the rear are some times filled with heavy objects that can affect your stability on road. If you have a need for one, they are not that expensive and can always be added later.
The big plus for the WA one is you will get to experience the wonderful Nullabor on your way home.
Either way, I would goin the RAC, and get them to do an inspection on both vehicles for piece of mind.
Now; here is a big advantage of purchasing the WA auto. I am a Fitter by trade and live in Mandurah WA, next door neighbour if a Motor Mechanic and is a licensed DOT Inspection Agent.
If you need, I could View/test drive/DOT Inspect/and deliver to SA. I have done this often in WA. Last purchase(on clients behalf) and delivery was from Perth to Broome.
Hope all of this helps, and if I can be of assistance please get in touch.
Regards.
Hetho.
Why do you say that?
Automatics certainly have an advantage if one is regularly doing city driving but for distance driving where one seldom changes gear I can see no advantage and, indeed, some disadvantages due to increased fuel consumption and a more complicated gearbox.
These vehicles are both Diesel on a Fiat not sure about front wheel or rear wheel. by the way this is a 20 footer, does not have the cab over bed. (They are around the 23ft).
Hendo will send you a pm. by the way this van is in Margaret River. Very kind of you to offer.
The spirit of Tasmania has a special on towards end of August - $288 One way to Melbourne.
This is a hard decision, but will take any advice.
Helen
Check what engine each one has - Fiat have 2.3lt or 3.0lt engines .
I think most would find the 3.0lt more preferable, a better drive overall, hold its value better as it will appeal to more buyers on resale.
David
Ask the question but I think the FD20 had the 3.0 litre back then.
Fiat auto's can be troublesome so have it carefully checked. On the other hand the auto will have much better resale value.
That model still sells new for around $100k
Montie
Hi again Helen,
If the Tasmanian one is as advertised on Gumtree Tas it looks excellent value & even though it is a manual I can see why it has caught your interest.
Regards
David
Aust ones much better quality build.
Rear wheel drive is always better than front in that size of vehicle.
That's car transmissin\driving gear. not truck.
Coupla times I've had to tow some car\boats UP the ramp
cause the front wh drive veh, wheels just spinning.
The same will go for grassy surfaces in soome parking areas.
Just sit and spin.
Plus the gearing and shafts used for such.
Are a lot lighter built than full axles.
Just a coupla thorts.
I remember reading that those Euro Veh's don't have the most reliable Electronics either.
Specially the VW versions. and their Constant, Auto's are a big no no..
You say it is a FWD. A lot of those FWD motorhomes are built on a chassis that is easily changed in length to suit. They keep the wheelbase as short as possible. That means that the rear overhang is already the maximum permitted length when the unit leaves the factory. That means that if you add storage or a bike rack on the rear your motorhome is over length. You could be in trouble if a picky copper pulls you over. If you get that one then check if the box needs to be removed.
yes - very easy to drive - yes - very comfortable - yes - a good mechanic is needed (we have a trusted one) - but have had work done when necessary at other places, always get our own mechanic to check it when we get to him. (No major problems - done close to 160,000k)/
Having said all this - do you know most of the motorhomes in Europe are on Fiat base - the front wheel drive is not a problem, if you are aware of where you park - making sure you have good access to the exit or road.
Good luck with whatever you choose Helen (adreamer) - live your dream!
I had a quick look around the net for that model.
Looks like great prices.
Make a quick decision ... based of course on good mechanical report & REVS (Encumbrances) checks.
Hello adreamer
This may or may not be applicable to the below vehicle
I met a couple who were travelling in a similar vehicle
They had opted to have a diesel heater instead of an air conditioner (Jayco option?)
So there is at least one vehicle of this type without a factory fitted air conditioner
I have no idea of the cost of an air conditioner, if you require one
Hi Tony Bev, Have gone with the one In Tasmania and it has both air con and the diesel Heater.
Pick it on 4th August. Never been to Tas so will spend 2 weeks having a look around.
Thank you.
Helen
My model 2006 Fiat Ducato with Jayco factory build, is not the same as yours as I have a different engine and gearbox, which changed early 2007
That is why I did not comment, on the ones you were looking at
Congrats ... A good decision I hope.
Perhaps a month might be good ... If you can stand the cold .... THe heater may address that though.
Happy camping.
-- Edited by Cupie on Tuesday 4th of July 2017 04:27:09 PM
Two important things you need to check before handing over your hard earned.
1) Do a PPSR check to ensure there is no money owing on the vehicle and it is not stolen or on the written off register.
Google PPSR and you can do it online. You will need the Vin number.
2) Ensure the seller is the legal owner. You can do this by checking the rego papers and asking for the sellers ID to compare. Only pay a nominal deposit when you do the deal and the balance when you pick it up.
Good luck with your purchase.
Montie