However, it would have more meaning if, instead of just posting what the weight of the vehicle and van are, the weights gained over a weighbridge are stated against the rated masses for the vehicle and van.
It is one thing to know what it all weighs .. but critical how much it weighs against the rated GVM, GCM, ATM, GTM.
It is only when all that is known, one can understand whether overweight - or close to vehicle's capability.
Cheers - John
macka17 said
10:33 PM May 14, 2017
True John
ALL the figures count.
And it'd be good if all. as some above have done.
Do.
Most councils have a dump weighbridge.
MOST will let you stop and give basic figures.
Individual and combined.
Ticket normally costs.
But, regardless of combined weights. legal and otherwise.
Which are important.
Nobody with anything between the ears would be too much over,
I'd hope.
The differential between BOTH. Is critical.
The TUG has to have a higher weight on tyres than Trailer.
Just to control it. At ALL times.
The people that ignore or plead ignorant about that.
can possibly be dangerous to others around them on the roads.
Nothing is perfect at all times when you driving.
You need the most balance and control at all times.
A rig with heavier tow than tug., or equal weight.
Is NOT.
GOOD Tyres firstly. (Good brakes all round are taken)
Inside max combined weights. and below individual max's.
SAFE differential between both vehicles.
WDh with larger rigs. (With Australian build vans OK.)
AND. A PROPERLY set up brake controller..
Checked every time you start rolling.
Just slide the lever and feel the retard on the throttle.
They working, and NOT skidding wheels??.
Keep it up people.
Among other things.
This post will give an idea of who'm drives what.
and will help people asking questions to direct to similar owners.
Keep them coming.
Off to get a whiskey and watch "Black List"
Regards
Fringe Dweller said
06:01 AM May 15, 2017
Should be able to do that this or next week , am going to anyway , as the porta potti I bought,
is Too big for th boot , so I am going to hopefully be able to put it on th back bar!!???
With a few modifications.
Rip and Rosie said
09:09 AM May 15, 2017
Fringe Dweller wrote:
......... the porta potti I bought,
is Too big for th boot , so I am going to hopefully be able to put it on th back bar!!???
With a few modifications.
Bah ha haaaaaa !!!!
Photo please.
macka17 said
12:31 PM May 15, 2017
YEP.
Pink cover and entrance. with flowerbed round the footstool.
And a 20c charge for entry...
Radar said
09:52 PM May 15, 2017
We have some where 2 weighbridge tickets for our caravan, one was a tare of both car and caravan, the second was a working weights.
Do think I can find them, I did in a discussion post them here somewhere, car was well under caravan was about 10kgs off its gross.
GCM about 4800kg well under.
-- Edited by Radar on Monday 15th of May 2017 09:53:07 PM
C00P said
01:49 AM May 16, 2017
I use a spreadsheet with weighbridge weights to calculate all the necessary figures including axle weights (before WDH is tensioned) and compare with maximum weights allowed (GVM, axle weights, etc.).
Got a surprise when I first did the exercise- found I was right on the max vehicle mass and van mass, although GCM was still within the allowable range.
Anyway, figures are: (2010 Toyota 76 GXL and Humpback van): First figure is calculated weight, second is max allowed, third is margin.
Total Front Axle 1145 1480 335
Total Rear Axle 1841 2180 339
Gross Vehicle Mass 2986 3000 14
Overall Mass of Van 2903 2920 17
Gross Combination Mass 5889 6560 671
As you can see, pretty marginal. These days we travel with less food and water in the tanks and bigger margins.
By the way, these figures included only about 200kg payload in the Toyota (including driver and passenger...)
Cheers
C00P
Tony Bev said
05:51 PM May 16, 2017
I lost the piece of paper, but the total weight of my motorhome, as per my avatar, was 3150 Kg on a public weighbridge about one year ago
This is less than Aggregate of 3850 Kilograms, as per my Licence papers in the snip below
Before my next big trip I shall pay twice, to have the front, and then the rear axles weighed
I am led to believe (from the net), but have not seen a compliance plate, (on my motorhome), that I am allowed, as per the snip below for my vehicle
If my vehicle was not a Maxi chassis then it would be
Ere we go.
Who's game to post their Car, Van and combined weights of rig on here now.
OR are that many over and won't admit to it.
Starter.
2010 D-Max. 2.75t loaded .
1999 Coromal 535 semi offroader 1.86k Loaded no water.
Towbar.. Around 210kg. Depending on tins etc in front galley.
Next..........
Gday...
Fully loaded, full water tanks, full gas bottles - exactly as it travels all day every day as I live in it and travel full-time.
Weighed over a VicRoads weighbridge by a VicRoads weighbridge inspector ... at one of those "information gathering only" weighbridge days.
No figures for 'with WDH' as Discovery doesn't use ...... or need one.
Cheers - John
From memory.
Tug 2050kg -ok
Van 1150kg -ok - We have about 280kg after water/gas - we carry cases on back seat.
Legal towing - 2760kg -ok
Ball 250 -220 ok
Aussie Paul.
Van...2980Kg
At broardford barby about 2 weeks ago.
Gday...
A very good exercise Macka
I watch with great interest.
However, it would have more meaning if, instead of just posting what the weight of the vehicle and van are, the weights gained over a weighbridge are stated against the rated masses for the vehicle and van.
It is one thing to know what it all weighs .. but critical how much it weighs against the rated GVM, GCM, ATM, GTM.
It is only when all that is known, one can understand whether overweight - or close to vehicle's capability.
Cheers - John
ALL the figures count.
And it'd be good if all. as some above have done.
Do.
Most councils have a dump weighbridge.
MOST will let you stop and give basic figures.
Individual and combined.
Ticket normally costs.
But, regardless of combined weights. legal and otherwise.
Which are important.
Nobody with anything between the ears would be too much over,
I'd hope.
The differential between BOTH. Is critical.
The TUG has to have a higher weight on tyres than Trailer.
Just to control it. At ALL times.
The people that ignore or plead ignorant about that.
can possibly be dangerous to others around them on the roads.
Nothing is perfect at all times when you driving.
You need the most balance and control at all times.
A rig with heavier tow than tug., or equal weight.
Is NOT.
GOOD Tyres firstly. (Good brakes all round are taken)
Inside max combined weights. and below individual max's.
SAFE differential between both vehicles.
WDh with larger rigs. (With Australian build vans OK.)
AND. A PROPERLY set up brake controller..
Checked every time you start rolling.
Just slide the lever and feel the retard on the throttle.
They working, and NOT skidding wheels??.
Keep it up people.
Among other things.
This post will give an idea of who'm drives what.
and will help people asking questions to direct to similar owners.
Keep them coming.
Off to get a whiskey and watch "Black List"
Regards
Should be able to do that this or next week , am going to anyway , as the porta potti I bought,
is Too big for th boot , so I am going to hopefully be able to put it on th back bar!!???
With a few modifications.
Bah ha haaaaaa !!!!
Photo please.
Pink cover and entrance. with flowerbed round the footstool.
And a 20c charge for entry...
We have some where 2 weighbridge tickets for our caravan, one was a tare of both car and caravan, the second was a working weights.
Do think I can find them, I did in a discussion post them here somewhere, car was well under caravan was about 10kgs off its gross.
GCM about 4800kg well under.
-- Edited by Radar on Monday 15th of May 2017 09:53:07 PM
Got a surprise when I first did the exercise- found I was right on the max vehicle mass and van mass, although GCM was still within the allowable range.
Anyway, figures are: (2010 Toyota 76 GXL and Humpback van): First figure is calculated weight, second is max allowed, third is margin.
Total Front Axle 1145 1480 335
Total Rear Axle 1841 2180 339
Gross Vehicle Mass 2986 3000 14
Overall Mass of Van 2903 2920 17
Gross Combination Mass 5889 6560 671
As you can see, pretty marginal. These days we travel with less food and water in the tanks and bigger margins.
By the way, these figures included only about 200kg payload in the Toyota (including driver and passenger...)
Cheers
C00P
I lost the piece of paper, but the total weight of my motorhome, as per my avatar, was 3150 Kg on a public weighbridge about one year ago
This is less than Aggregate of 3850 Kilograms, as per my Licence papers in the snip below
Before my next big trip I shall pay twice, to have the front, and then the rear axles weighed
I am led to believe (from the net), but have not seen a compliance plate, (on my motorhome), that I am allowed, as per the snip below for my vehicle
If my vehicle was not a Maxi chassis then it would be
Front axle 1850
Rear axle 2000
Therefore I am compliant
Last trip got home yesterday ,van 2280kg car 2170kg ball weight 210kg water tanks full van loaded ,that ok.