You know!!!! Victoria should be the best State to manage.
First, look at the size of the State compared to other.
Then there is the large population
So with a population that they have and the $$$$$$revenue they therefore generate, it should be a given that the States infrusture system of Rail Road Trams Bus Transport... Power... water the list can go on, will keep pushing the growth in this State..
Now consider the issues that Queensland Western Australia and NSW are confronted with, especially providing essential service to the far flung outback areas.
Any wonder Victoria is fastly becoming the top State.
But... having said all that..... I am a Queenslander... will continue to live up in God's country.
Jay&Dee
Craig1 said
09:02 PM May 3, 2017
So long as you are not North of Seymour, West of Geelong or East of Dandenong.But include Ballarat and maybe Bendigo All about city slickers is good ol Dan
Eaglemax said
09:06 AM May 4, 2017
I live north of Seymour. Sadly many decisions made by the State Govt, all of them has been poor, a few good though
Rail lines ripped up ijn the middle of the night while protesters slept on the Tallarook to Mansfield line 45 years ago makes for a good bike track now...would have made a great scenic railway now with tunnels and views.
Lack of decentralization making Melbourne way to sprawlish.
I worked on the suburban railways in 1980. The rail system hasnt improved at all.
A rail link city to Tullamarine ...well they are still pondering again. It is essential.
The water transfer Goulburn river to Melbourne to drought proof the city was a good move (I'm ducking tomatoes now) but the desal plant was at huge cost thanks to the Bracks govt.
IMO the best part of Victoria is beyond two hours drive from Melbourne. And yes, its size means easier management of infrastructure.
JayDee said
11:32 AM May 4, 2017
I must admit that when I started this thread, that we only spent a couple of days at Frankston before boarding the ship to Tassie. Also spent a few hours in city viewing the CBD via the tram network. So our weeks of travel have been north east and west of Melbourne region.
The regional areas seem to be very prosperous and friendly.
Yes it is hard to get a government leader to have the balls to make the hard decisions.
Now if it was me I would be saying " This is what I am going to do re all the issues which will benefit our State. If you don't like what I do then you can turf me out in three years."
I guarantee that the results would be better than what we experience around this great nationof ours.
Jay&Dee
Hylife said
11:53 AM May 4, 2017
Not getting political at all, but, whilst Victoria may have nearly 30% of the country's population it only receives approx. 8% of all GST revenue.
This is primarily why successive Victorian state governments of both parties will only spend money in areas that can buy votes, and that unfortunately does NOT include areas west/norwest of Melbourne that are ridiculously safe Labour seats.
The Belmont Bear said
05:57 PM May 4, 2017
Hylife I'm not sure that you're numbers are accurate I just looked at the predicted GST $60billion carve up for 2017/18 for each state and territory and it looks more like this -
NSW population 7.6million people (32% of total population), $17.6bn payout = 29% of the total GST pie.
Vic - 6.1milion (25%), $13.9bn = 23%
QLD - 4.8million (20%), 14.3bn = 24%
WA - 2.6million (11%), 2.1bn = 3%
SA - 1.7million (7%), 6.1bn = 10%
Tas - 534K (2.1%), 2.3bn = 3%
ACT - 390K (1.2%), 1.2bn = 2%
NT - 245K (1%), 3.3bn = 5%
It seems to me that the states who are in a position to complain about the fairness of the current carve up are NSW, Vic and WA as they seem to be subsidising the others. Since federation the larger states Vic, NSW and QLD have always had to support those that had smaller populations and less chance to raise revenue and that included WA at least up until the development of their mineral resources. Maybe we should just get rid of the idea of having seperate states and become Australia at least we would save plenty of money on employing politicians
You know!!!! Victoria should be the best State to manage.
First, look at the size of the State compared to other.
Then there is the large population
So with a population that they have and the $$$$$$revenue they therefore generate, it should be a given that the States infrusture system of Rail Road Trams Bus Transport... Power... water the list can go on, will keep pushing the growth in this State..
Now consider the issues that Queensland Western Australia and NSW are confronted with, especially providing essential service to the far flung outback areas.
Any wonder Victoria is fastly becoming the top State.
But... having said all that..... I am a Queenslander... will continue to live up in God's country.
Jay&Dee
I must admit that when I started this thread, that we only spent a couple of days at Frankston before boarding the ship to Tassie. Also spent a few hours in city viewing the CBD via the tram network. So our weeks of travel have been north east and west of Melbourne region.
The regional areas seem to be very prosperous and friendly.
Yes it is hard to get a government leader to have the balls to make the hard decisions.
Now if it was me I would be saying " This is what I am going to do re all the issues which will benefit our State. If you don't like what I do then you can turf me out in three years."
I guarantee that the results would be better than what we experience around this great nationof ours.
Jay&Dee
This is primarily why successive Victorian state governments of both parties will only spend money in areas that can buy votes, and that unfortunately does NOT include areas west/norwest of Melbourne that are ridiculously safe Labour seats.
Hylife I'm not sure that you're numbers are accurate I just looked at the predicted GST $60billion carve up for 2017/18 for each state and territory and it looks more like this -
NSW population 7.6million people (32% of total population), $17.6bn payout = 29% of the total GST pie.
Vic - 6.1milion (25%), $13.9bn = 23%
QLD - 4.8million (20%), 14.3bn = 24%
WA - 2.6million (11%), 2.1bn = 3%
SA - 1.7million (7%), 6.1bn = 10%
Tas - 534K (2.1%), 2.3bn = 3%
ACT - 390K (1.2%), 1.2bn = 2%
NT - 245K (1%), 3.3bn = 5%
It seems to me that the states who are in a position to complain about the fairness of the current carve up are NSW, Vic and WA as they seem to be subsidising the others. Since federation the larger states Vic, NSW and QLD have always had to support those that had smaller populations and less chance to raise revenue and that included WA at least up until the development of their mineral resources. Maybe we should just get rid of the idea of having seperate states and become Australia at least we would save plenty of money on employing politicians
