Hi All. Quick question for people who, like me, hate the rubbish that so many leave behind. For those of you who spend a bit of time and pick up others rubbish, and should be applauded for doing so, what is then the best method of disposal. I have got myself some gloves, pick up tool and garbage bags and intend to do the same but would be cautious about leaving it at a roadside bin only to have animals (4 legged and 2 legged) spread it out again or the wind do the same. If I had room I could cart it to town and then get the dirty looks from people when you are putting large bags of rubbish in public bins or worse still have to pay to take it to the tip.
Would be so much nicer if people would just take their rubbish with them.. They can cart it in why can't they cart it out.
Look forward to your responses
cheers
Joff
Possum3 said
10:24 PM Mar 26, 2017
We crush and take cans to local tip with bottles, carry them to town on A Frame in bags. We use large tongs to collect confetti and rubbish and burn on site (even plastics and foam) better to burn than let it contaminate to camp area.
We have one of these fitted to our caravans spare wheel cover, holds about 8 shopping bags full of rubbish (about 12 days worth).
It has drain holes at the bottom, can be sprayed out with a hose & is sealed at the top with Velcro (no flies).
We sometimes get people behind us thinking that we're losing our spare wheel cover. We have to tell them that it's our rubbish carrier.
We spend most of our time out in the bush, then dump our rubbish in town in an appropriate location such as a large hopper.
Colin Penrose said
10:14 AM Mar 27, 2017
Hi. We pick up rubbish at freecamps and dispose of it with our own at the next town we visit. Most towns seem to provide large bins or the footy oval. If I see people littering I take a photo of their vehicle and send it to the local council. They need to be robbed in. Col P
Ozzie_Traveller said
08:07 PM Mar 27, 2017
G'day matey
I also have a set of bbq tongs for picking up stuff, I get a roll of garden-sized bright red bags and around I go at many sites I stop at.
Some are spotlessly clean anyway - the ones I find grubby are the non-toileted, non-binned ones, where travellers leave 'streamers' in the bushes, and heap tins & bottles on top of their streamers
Disposal is in the next large town, and if I can't find a hopper or large wheely bin, I call into the council depot and ask them to take it. Never had a refusal or had to pay anything
Hope this helps
Phil
JOFFG said
08:30 PM Mar 28, 2017
Thanks everyone for your suggestions. With a combination of everything hopefully we can do a little bit to start helping clean this wonderful country up.
cheers all, travel safe.
Tony Bev said
12:00 AM Mar 29, 2017
I am still looking for a bird proof rubbish bag
As GRUNT seems to be a large Australian manufacturer of rubbish bin liners, I emailed them a few days ago, asking if they made a bird proof rubbish bag
As I have no room to take other peoples rubbish with me, the best I can do is just clean up, whenever I can
My best idea so far is to buy some sandbag type sacks, fill them up, and them stack them near the overflowing bins
But...
At the moment I am still not sure if this is a good idea, because a sandbag will take a long time to disintegrate
As a sidenote it is interesting to read in the new Camps Australia Wide book 9, on page 14 and 15, the mention of rubbish
Quote A well looked after site will give the authorities a good reason to keep it open for our use Unquote
I do not have the answer, I wish that I did
SouthernComfort said
08:08 AM Mar 29, 2017
Been a couple of threads on this topic, damned frustrating that we should even need it. Reality is, there is no solution to changing humans of a certain type who are hell bent on adorning the countryside with their rubbish, so it's left to the rest of us to apply some ingenuity and compensate for these cretins.
-- Edited by SouthernComfort on Wednesday 29th of March 2017 08:09:28 AM
Bam said
12:41 PM Mar 29, 2017
At our last camp I picked burnt cans and bottles out of the supplied fire pit, and placed them in the provided bin about 50 metres away.
Why the person who put them in there couldn't do the same is beyond me!
I guess there have always been tossers & always will be...I hope they never outnumber the people who do the right thing.
I wonder if the Clean up Australia committee could advise re the bird proof bags?
Tony Bev said
01:15 PM Mar 29, 2017
I know that we are preaching to the choir boys in this forum, when we talk about rubbish in the free camps
I believe that the authorities are trying to put the message out I just hope that some camps are not closed, due to the expense of rubbish clean-ups
At our last camp I picked burnt cans and bottles out of the supplied fire pit, and placed them in the provided bin about 50 metres away.
Why the person who put them in there couldn't do the same is beyond me!
I guess there have always been tossers & always will be...I hope they never outnumber the people who do the right thing.
I wonder if the Clean up Australia committee could advise re the bird proof bags?
Thanks for that info Bam
I was unaware of this Clean up Australia committee
I have just been on their web site, and saw that they do have clean up rubbish bags for sale
I have sent an email asking if their bags are bird proof Hopefully I explained that in some remote areas, the local council only went to pick up the rubbish, on a monthly basis
I did not mention the area to them, but I have read on this forum, that the Baxter rest area on the Nullarbor is looked after by the Dundas shire, who only collect the rubbish once a month This is due to economic restraint, as it is a 500 kilometre round trip
I stopped overnight in that camp at the end of 2016, I could see that there were only two overflowing bins, and plenty of rubbish Having no means of taking other peoples rubbish away with me, I could only leave it there
I only carry normal bin liners, large and small The boss pointed out that if I used them, the birds would quickly rip them to pieces, and the rubbish would be once again scatted everywhere
On my return journey I just drove passed this camp
Edit to say that I have had a reply from Clean Up Australia, regarding their (what they call) bottle bags
The reply came from a spokes lady for Clean Up Australia
She said that leaving a bag full of rubbish, especially if there was food in it, left for a long time, may still be problematic, as the birds would eventually peck through it She said that she could not therefore guarantee that their bags would last for a month
I then sent a second email asking if she could make an educated guess, on how long their bags would last
She mentioned that an ibis with a strong beak, would probably get into the bag within a few days, and that other birds may take up to a week or longer
I put this up as a follow through, to what has already been posted I hope that others may have better ideas than myself
I point out that before Bam mentioned Clean Up Australia committee, I had not even thought of them
-- Edited by Tony Bev on Wednesday 29th of March 2017 04:38:34 PM
Bam said
06:56 PM Mar 29, 2017
Thats a shame Tony Bev, I thought they may have a solution.
I don't know what the answer is and google was no help.
Hopefully the younger generation will be more environmentally aware.
Good on you for caring enough to follow that up and cleaning up other people's rubbish.
dazz49 said
10:04 PM Mar 29, 2017
Have been at Whyalla S A for s few days. The roads close to town are littered with cans and bottles and whatever. There are dirt tracks bordering the highway close to the town, which are littered with refuse that has been dumped by the trailer load. Tyres, building material, prunings, smashed bottles, oil, household rubbish, you name it. Unfortunately it is an attitude that says. Who cares, not my problem, let someone else worry about it. Teaching children the same and when they go camping , they leave the area as they live. Like pigs. My little rant. Cheers daz
Lancelot Link said
12:42 AM Mar 30, 2017
The days of burn bash and bury are long gone, recycle all plastic and foam, don't burn it, toxic and carcinogenic gases are produced as well greenhouse emissions, recycle as most of it today is recyclable, or put it landfill! Anything that produces black, oily smoke should never be burnt!
Hi All. Quick question for people who, like me, hate the rubbish that so many leave behind. For those of you who spend a bit of time and pick up others rubbish, and should be applauded for doing so, what is then the best method of disposal. I have got myself some gloves, pick up tool and garbage bags and intend to do the same but would be cautious about leaving it at a roadside bin only to have animals (4 legged and 2 legged) spread it out again or the wind do the same. If I had room I could cart it to town and then get the dirty looks from people when you are putting large bags of rubbish in public bins or worse still have to pay to take it to the tip.
Would be so much nicer if people would just take their rubbish with them.. They can cart it in why can't they cart it out.
Look forward to your responses
cheers
Joff
We have one of these fitted to our caravans spare wheel cover, holds about 8 shopping bags full of rubbish (about 12 days worth).
It has drain holes at the bottom, can be sprayed out with a hose & is sealed at the top with Velcro (no flies).
We sometimes get people behind us thinking that we're losing our spare wheel cover. We have to tell them that it's our rubbish carrier.
We spend most of our time out in the bush, then dump our rubbish in town in an appropriate location such as a large hopper.
Hi. We pick up rubbish at freecamps and dispose of it with our own at the next town we visit. Most towns seem to provide large bins or the footy oval. If I see people littering I take a photo of their vehicle and send it to the local council. They need to be robbed in. Col P
I also have a set of bbq tongs for picking up stuff, I get a roll of garden-sized bright red bags and around I go at many sites I stop at.
Some are spotlessly clean anyway - the ones I find grubby are the non-toileted, non-binned ones, where travellers leave 'streamers' in the bushes, and heap tins & bottles on top of their streamers
Disposal is in the next large town, and if I can't find a hopper or large wheely bin, I call into the council depot and ask them to take it. Never had a refusal or had to pay anything
Hope this helps
Phil
Thanks everyone for your suggestions. With a combination of everything hopefully we can do a little bit to start helping clean this wonderful country up.
cheers all, travel safe.
I am still looking for a bird proof rubbish bag
As GRUNT seems to be a large Australian manufacturer of rubbish bin liners, I emailed them a few days ago, asking if they made a bird proof rubbish bag
As I have no room to take other peoples rubbish with me, the best I can do is just clean up, whenever I can
My best idea so far is to buy some sandbag type sacks, fill them up, and them stack them near the overflowing bins
But...
At the moment I am still not sure if this is a good idea, because a sandbag will take a long time to disintegrate
As a sidenote it is interesting to read in the new Camps Australia Wide book 9, on page 14 and 15, the mention of rubbish
I do not have the answer, I wish that I did
Been a couple of threads on this topic, damned frustrating that we should even need it. Reality is, there is no solution to changing humans of a certain type who are hell bent on adorning the countryside with their rubbish, so it's left to the rest of us to apply some ingenuity and compensate for these cretins.
-- Edited by SouthernComfort on Wednesday 29th of March 2017 08:09:28 AM
Why the person who put them in there couldn't do the same is beyond me!
I guess there have always been tossers & always will be...I hope they never outnumber the people who do the right thing.
I wonder if the Clean up Australia committee could advise re the bird proof bags?
I know that we are preaching to the choir boys in this forum, when we talk about rubbish in the free camps
I believe that the authorities are trying to put the message out
I just hope that some camps are not closed, due to the expense of rubbish clean-ups
The pictures tell a story
Thanks for that info Bam
I was unaware of this Clean up Australia committee
I have just been on their web site, and saw that they do have clean up rubbish bags for sale
I have sent an email asking if their bags are bird proof
Hopefully I explained that in some remote areas, the local council only went to pick up the rubbish, on a monthly basis
I did not mention the area to them, but I have read on this forum, that the Baxter rest area on the Nullarbor is looked after by the Dundas shire, who only collect the rubbish once a month
This is due to economic restraint, as it is a 500 kilometre round trip
I stopped overnight in that camp at the end of 2016, I could see that there were only two overflowing bins, and plenty of rubbish
Having no means of taking other peoples rubbish away with me, I could only leave it there
I only carry normal bin liners, large and small
The boss pointed out that if I used them, the birds would quickly rip them to pieces, and the rubbish would be once again scatted everywhere
On my return journey I just drove passed this camp
Edit to say that I have had a reply from Clean Up Australia, regarding their (what they call) bottle bags
The reply came from a spokes lady for Clean Up Australia
She said that leaving a bag full of rubbish, especially if there was food in it, left for a long time, may still be problematic, as the birds would eventually peck through it
She said that she could not therefore guarantee that their bags would last for a month
I then sent a second email asking if she could make an educated guess, on how long their bags would last
She mentioned that an ibis with a strong beak, would probably get into the bag within a few days, and that other birds may take up to a week or longer
I put this up as a follow through, to what has already been posted
I hope that others may have better ideas than myself
I point out that before Bam mentioned Clean Up Australia committee, I had not even thought of them
-- Edited by Tony Bev on Wednesday 29th of March 2017 04:38:34 PM
Thats a shame Tony Bev, I thought they may have a solution.
I don't know what the answer is and google was no help.
Hopefully the younger generation will be more environmentally aware.
Good on you for caring enough to follow that up and cleaning up other people's rubbish.