hi all we new to this caravan experience and would like to know is any one towing a 3500 gvt. Traveler Prodigy,or similar and what are you towing it with???
dibill.
ants_oz said
02:14 PM Jan 25, 2017
What is "gvt"?
Dougwe said
02:20 PM Jan 25, 2017
Welcome to the gang neck-end, enjoy here and out in the playground.
'gvt' is new to me as well, sorry, but sounds something the smaller tugs might struggle with so might be worth thinking along the lines of F250 or the small Iveco trucks or similar perhaps. Only my opinion.
Keep Safe on the roads and out there.
macka17 said
02:31 PM Jan 25, 2017
There's only 2 without going USA or light trucks.
In SAFETY..For yourself and others on roads.
The Toyota 200 ser. or latest Patrol G62 Petrol
But similar fuel usage to the 200 ser (so the tests say)
Possibly a Troopy with full cab and V8?.
Nothing in utes and SUV, Or so called other 4wd's
are man enough to safely tow that weight.
BIG utes. Around 2.5 ton max.
ALL of those above,
The van will control the tug when things go "whoops".
Primarily. Make sure the TUG is around 400kg or more
HEAVIER than the van you towing.
NEVER. EVER. Have a van heavier than your tug
Regardless of what the plates on individual veh's say.
Think SAFETY. FIRST. SECOND, and third.
Plus always get any Van you buy.
BEFORE.... You pay the money.
Taken over a weighbridge. Given a bridge. DATED ticket.
and have the COMPLIANCE plate on van
corresponding to weighbridge figures.
OTHERWISE...
S'Cuse me?????
You CAN NOTTTTTT.... Do anything once dollars paid. and van on your tug.
Regardless of what you try to say. That they said.
It's ALL up to you.
Do it right. Buy a van to suit YOUR tug. or change one of them to suit.
And you'll have great experiences.
Get it wrong.
You'll always be looking over your shoulder.
I know of one Personally, HE contacted me asking advice.
I Gave it.
He disregarded. And ending up changing both from memory
about 12 ish yrs ago now, he's on here.
PLUS.
Just remember.
Legally.
IF any of your weights are over. on either vehicle.
or combined is over.
The INSURANCE Company says who???/ Never heard of him.
He's illegal.
You've paid ALL those insurances for nothing. Car Contents and van.
Then Mr Plod says.
Helllooooooooo. what have we here then.
And don't think I'm joking. They getting (finally)
on the ball more. Nowadays.
It's normally a choice of buying a smaller van with less crap.
And coupla yrs down the track thinking.
Well.I didn't need all that after all.
3.5 ton van is a lot of weight. Size and bulk.
For what.
Think Before you jump.
And.... Enjoy whatever you buy.
It's a great life.
Bill B said
03:20 PM Jan 25, 2017
ants_oz wrote:
What is "gvt"?
In his profile Bill states van has an ATM of 3,500 kgs & tare is 2910 kgs.
Fred K said
03:32 PM Jan 25, 2017
Hi there Yes we tow a Traveller Prodigy that has an ATM of 3380 kg with a VW Touareg 180 kw , 550 nm 3.0 diesel
the car has GCVM of 6,460 kg so can tow the full 3500 with no reduction in vehicle load
the only downside is that the current models have a reduced tow ball mass of 280 kg compared to the earlier ones of 350 kg.
i am now on my third Touareg and cannot find another vehicle to consider in the price range which is much cheaper than a similar speced Land Cruiser / Land Rover or even Jeep
The car does it effortlessly and with air suspension does ( cannot ) use WDH In my opinion one of the most underrated tow vehicles on the market Wider track and longer wheelbase than a LandCruiser 200 and with the electronic stability control on both car and Tucson on van absolutely no movement on the road
Fred K
-- Edited by Fred K on Wednesday 25th of January 2017 05:22:26 PM
Woody n Sue said
06:34 PM Jan 25, 2017
My two bobs worth yank tank or Iveco size if I were to be towing a full 3500 kg conventional trailer , I like my patrol but I wouldn't like to be towing that sort of weight with it .
Woody
KiloBravo said
07:56 PM Jan 25, 2017
I'm also a newbie, did put a post in the tech section re a McHitch, but watching and trying to pick up some tips and info. We have ordered a Traveller prodigy 23.6 with independent suspension with a 2 inch riser and ESC.
I'm towing with a F250 (Aussie,Brazilian) model I've had since new (2005).
Just got to work out what I need and don't need.
montie said
07:58 PM Jan 25, 2017
3.5 tonne ATM is one heavy van.....F250 or Iveco or similar.
Above all make sure the loaded tug weight exceeds the loaded van weight.
Montie
landy said
11:30 PM Jan 25, 2017
We tow a Traveler Prodigy.with a 1999 land Rover 130 defender so far towed it about 40.000 klm with no problems.we have a gcvm of 7000 kg with 1.5 ton carrying capacity and 3.5 ton towing. we do not travel very fast as Defenders have a low rotio transfer box and towing in fith gear is not recomended. fuel consuption is normaly 14 to 17 lph. Landy
blaze said
12:21 AM Jan 26, 2017
now be fair Landy, the other members are talking about toy tugs and you are talking about a true workhorse, me, well I am a bit soft for a defer and have a an old rangie cheers blaze
PeterD said
07:50 AM Jan 26, 2017
William, for a man who is new to caravanning you have chosen a van that mos old hands consider way to heavy for a newby. For new vanners the recommendation is you choose a van with a loaded weight to be less than the tare of the tug.
William, for a man who is new to caravanning you have chosen a van that mos old hands consider way to heavy for a newby.
""For new vanners the recommendation is you choose a van with a loaded weight to be less than the tare of the tug.""
= ===================
Pete.
The recommendations. and ONLY sensible. SAFE trailer to tow.
Is ALWAYS...
One of lower weight than what you're driving.
NOT just Newbies, inexperienced at towing or not.
The bigger the variation, the safer.
I always try to keep a minimum of 400kg's and more.
This one. D-Max rated 3 ton.
Coromal Tandem (Loaded) 2 ton.
People nowadays are conned by dealers and magazines.
Into "bigger is better."
Hence. 90+ % of time.
they will be illegal before even starting. Safety and weights wise.
Paper figures are NOT necessarily Safety figures.
landy said
10:22 PM Jan 28, 2017
blaze wrote:
now be fair Landy, the other members are talking about toy tugs and you are talking about a true workhorse, me, well I am a bit soft for a defer and have a an old rangie cheers blaze
hi all we new to this caravan experience and would like to know is any one towing a 3500 gvt. Traveler Prodigy,or similar and what are you towing it with???
dibill.
'gvt' is new to me as well, sorry, but sounds something the smaller tugs might struggle with so might be worth thinking along the lines of F250 or the small Iveco trucks or similar perhaps. Only my opinion.
Keep Safe on the roads and out there.
In SAFETY..For yourself and others on roads.
The Toyota 200 ser. or latest Patrol G62 Petrol
But similar fuel usage to the 200 ser (so the tests say)
Possibly a Troopy with full cab and V8?.
Nothing in utes and SUV, Or so called other 4wd's
are man enough to safely tow that weight.
BIG utes. Around 2.5 ton max.
ALL of those above,
The van will control the tug when things go "whoops".
Primarily. Make sure the TUG is around 400kg or more
HEAVIER than the van you towing.
NEVER. EVER. Have a van heavier than your tug
Regardless of what the plates on individual veh's say.
Think SAFETY. FIRST. SECOND, and third.
Plus always get any Van you buy.
BEFORE.... You pay the money.
Taken over a weighbridge. Given a bridge. DATED ticket.
and have the COMPLIANCE plate on van
corresponding to weighbridge figures.
OTHERWISE...
S'Cuse me?????
You CAN NOTTTTTT.... Do anything once dollars paid. and van on your tug.
Regardless of what you try to say. That they said.
It's ALL up to you.
Do it right. Buy a van to suit YOUR tug. or change one of them to suit.
And you'll have great experiences.
Get it wrong.
You'll always be looking over your shoulder.
I know of one Personally, HE contacted me asking advice.
I Gave it.
He disregarded. And ending up changing both from memory
about 12 ish yrs ago now, he's on here.
PLUS.
Just remember.
Legally.
IF any of your weights are over. on either vehicle.
or combined is over.
The INSURANCE Company says who???/ Never heard of him.
He's illegal.
You've paid ALL those insurances for nothing. Car Contents and van.
Then Mr Plod says.
Helllooooooooo. what have we here then.
And don't think I'm joking. They getting (finally)
on the ball more. Nowadays.
It's normally a choice of buying a smaller van with less crap.
And coupla yrs down the track thinking.
Well.I didn't need all that after all.
3.5 ton van is a lot of weight. Size and bulk.
For what.
Think Before you jump.
And.... Enjoy whatever you buy.
It's a great life.
In his profile Bill states van has an ATM of 3,500 kgs & tare is 2910 kgs.
Hi there
Yes we tow a Traveller Prodigy that has an ATM of 3380 kg with a VW Touareg 180 kw , 550 nm 3.0 diesel
the car has GCVM of 6,460 kg so can tow the full 3500 with no reduction in vehicle load
the only downside is that the current models have a reduced tow ball mass of 280 kg compared to the earlier ones of 350 kg.
i am now on my third Touareg and cannot find another vehicle to consider in the price range which is much cheaper than a similar speced Land Cruiser / Land Rover or even Jeep
The car does it effortlessly and with air suspension does ( cannot ) use WDH
In my opinion one of the most underrated tow vehicles on the market
Wider track and longer wheelbase than a LandCruiser 200 and with the electronic stability control on both car and Tucson on van absolutely no movement on the road
Fred K
-- Edited by Fred K on Wednesday 25th of January 2017 05:22:26 PM
Woody
I'm also a newbie, did put a post in the tech section re a McHitch, but watching and trying to pick up some tips and info. We have ordered a Traveller prodigy 23.6 with independent suspension with a 2 inch riser and ESC.
I'm towing with a F250 (Aussie,Brazilian) model I've had since new (2005).
Just got to work out what I need and don't need.
Above all make sure the loaded tug weight exceeds the loaded van weight.
Montie
Landy
now be fair Landy, the other members are talking about toy tugs and you are talking about a true workhorse, me, well I am a bit soft for a defer and have a an old rangie
cheers
blaze
William, for a man who is new to caravanning you have chosen a van that mos old hands consider way to heavy for a newby. For new vanners the recommendation is you choose a van with a loaded weight to be less than the tare of the tug.
Before committing yourself to a twin cab ute read this article - Why a 3500kg tow rating may not really be a 3500kg tow rating
William, for a man who is new to caravanning you have chosen a van that mos old hands consider way to heavy for a newby.
""For new vanners the recommendation is you choose a van with a loaded weight to be less than the tare of the tug.""
= ===================
Pete.
The recommendations. and ONLY sensible. SAFE trailer to tow.
Is ALWAYS...
One of lower weight than what you're driving.
NOT just Newbies, inexperienced at towing or not.
The bigger the variation, the safer.
I always try to keep a minimum of 400kg's and more.
This one. D-Max rated 3 ton.
Coromal Tandem (Loaded) 2 ton.
People nowadays are conned by dealers and magazines.
Into "bigger is better."
Hence. 90+ % of time.
they will be illegal before even starting. Safety and weights wise.
Paper figures are NOT necessarily Safety figures.