http://www.gr8wallrv.com/ I note they are luring dealers with the "LUCRATIVE RV INDUSTRY NEVER BEEN EASIER" banner.
Cruising Cruze said
08:33 PM Jan 19, 2017
Bugger they must be desperate
rockylizard said
08:44 PM Jan 19, 2017
Gday...
Neither supporting nor denigrating Great Wall vans or anything Chinese ...... BUT ........ remember initial reactions for early years of Japanese products? early years of Korean products? etc etc
Ya never know what 'quality' is in the offering.
[edit: and given the diatribe/s on how our Aussie manufacturers are the bane of every potential van buyer - these just might be as good]
Cheers - John
-- Edited by rockylizard on Thursday 19th of January 2017 08:46:27 PM
macka17 said
09:10 PM Jan 19, 2017
Next door had Toyota for yrs.
Works in mines.
His current ute 4 yrs now (or more) is a Great Wall.
Runs to work on shift and daily work.
Reckons a little smaller inside but he prefers it.
Drivablity. Comfort and reliability is smack on.
Worth waaay more than costs.
Quite a few of the others think same too.
For the price. Very good.
Landfall said
09:45 PM Jan 19, 2017
When it comes to some Australian made vans the bar is set very low. Not much effort to beat.
Until you see the product it's hard to make a judgement.
I know of a couple of people who have had and still are having a great run out of their Great Wall.
Bill B said
10:45 PM Jan 19, 2017
Possum3 wrote:
Just came across this little bit of news
http://www.gr8wallrv.com/ I note they are luring dealers with the "LUCRATIVE RV INDUSTRY NEVER BEEN EASIER" banner.
How about the reproducing the full quote : BECOMING PART OF THE LUCRATIVE RV INDUSTRY NEVER BEEN EASIER
hako said
10:47 PM Jan 19, 2017
Problem with Great Wall is their poor resale value - on Carsales there is a 2010 model 5 door 4wd in pretty good order for $3800.
macka17 said
02:45 AM Jan 20, 2017
Something like Jeep hey.
Not worth the paper they written on,
as the saying goes.
Desert Dweller said
05:14 AM Jan 20, 2017
We know a wildlife photography guide in Cairns that's had a Great Wall 4x4 for many years traveling into outback QLD & the tip of Cape York hundreds of times, the vehicle hasn't missed a beat. Don't knock ém till you've tried ém!
Great Wall's RV's will probably ''cream'' a lot of the locally built trash.
-- Edited by Desert Dweller on Friday 20th of January 2017 05:17:41 AM
Delta18 said
06:39 AM Jan 20, 2017
Bit like the Russian Belaris tractors when they began importing them 30 odd years ago. "Any colour as long as it's red", less than 1/2 the price of comparable HP Massey, Ford et al.
They were bagged as having no appeal, no re-sale etc but the performance was 'up there'!
Farmers soon realised that even with no re-sale value to speak of, after 3 good years use they could almost give them away & buy a new one & still be in front financially.
Ron-D said
07:04 AM Jan 20, 2017
My thoughts it's hard enough getting caravans that are made locally properly serviced and made to be reliable,to me buying one of those products could be a nightmare why take the risk...
Landfall said
08:31 AM Jan 20, 2017
Ron-D wrote:
My thoughts it's hard enough getting caravans that are made locally properly serviced and made to be reliable,to me buying one of those products could be a nightmare why take the risk...
Were's the risk?
You can't get local products repaired under warranty properly without a fight, if at all.
As for motor homes, ask a few owners of Mercedes Benz and Fiat if they are having problems?
As others have stated, you mighht as well purchase two or three Great Wall products for the cost of one expensive lemon.
PeterD said
11:46 AM Jan 20, 2017
They will have to be light weight if they want their tugs can tow them. (Most are around 2,000/200 kg.)
macka17 said
12:32 PM Jan 20, 2017
There's a LOT of smaller vans on the road Pete.
Not all go for railway waggons on tyres.
2 ton covers a lot. and that ute is PROVING.. Very reliable and up to job.
Bit small but hey.
If it does the job, comfortably, economically and safely.
What's there to lose.
Ron-D said
02:51 PM Jan 20, 2017
Landfall wrote:
Ron-D wrote:
My thoughts it's hard enough getting caravans that are made locally properly serviced and made to be reliable,to me buying one of those products could be a nightmare why take the risk...
Were's the risk?
You can't get local products repaired under warranty properly without a fight, if at all.
As for motor homes, ask a few owners of Mercedes Benz and Fiat if they are having problems?
As others have stated, you mighht as well purchase two or three Great Wall products for the cost of one expensive lemon.
At least you can talk to the factory over the phone here in plain English ,I found that better in my case then talking to the dealership .try doing that in an overseas country Google luck...
Landfall said
03:10 PM Jan 20, 2017
Ron-D wrote:
Landfall wrote:
Ron-D wrote:
My thoughts it's hard enough getting caravans that are made locally properly serviced and made to be reliable,to me buying one of those products could be a nightmare why take the risk...
Were's the risk?
You can't get local products repaired under warranty properly without a fight, if at all.
As for motor homes, ask a few owners of Mercedes Benz and Fiat if they are having problems?
As others have stated, you mighht as well purchase two or three Great Wall products for the cost of one expensive lemon.
At least you can talk to the factory over the phone here in plain English ,I found that better in my case then talking to the dealership .try doing that in an overseas country Google luck...
In our case and a few others I know of, we talked in English but might as well have been talking to the wall, the Great Wall would probably have been better.
macka17 said
05:55 PM Jan 20, 2017
There are always knockers.
I'm bad for it. but only stiring.
They've been out a while now. with good reputation innards.
and the few I know are more than happy.
I remember when Jap cars started.
Honda had the reputation of using 20 ltr drum sheeting,
rolled and pressed for door panels YEA>....
Look at them now.
Probably the best reputation motor vehicle in the world.
Regardless, I'd have one over a Toyota of any model other than Troopy.
Over rated, overpriced. Pieces of ....t.
DeBe said
09:53 PM Jan 20, 2017
As for poor resale value, theres plenty of other brand vehicles loosing a lot of value these days. As a retired mechanic I pickup realy cheep cars that need expensive maintenance done on them, & just do it & finish up with a cheep & reliable car. The high labour costs for work on vehicles sees lots of cars go cheep.
Aus-Kiwi said
01:42 AM Jan 21, 2017
Isn't the GW a copy of the early Rodeo's ?
dirvine said
05:16 PM Jan 21, 2017
Having owned a Great Wall I think I can more than discuss its merits or otherwise.
It was not the greatest in the latest technology but had many features lacking on other far more expensive 4WD's. Ie electric seats, TPMS, Rear Camera, Adjustable Headlights, Leather seats, full climate control, sunroof. It was also very reliable as the basic mechanicals were built around Rodeo, Isuzu, Toyota and Mitsubishi, even if it was 2005 technology!.
Mine has featured in many magazines and also on TV. It was the first GW to do all the following: the Cape via the OTT and all the crossings including the hard gunshot, the Canning twice, Simpson both ways, the Anne Beadell, the Gibb River Road, Gunbarrell. Vic High Country, Fraser and just about any other Iconic track in Australian mainland.
It was not stock standard, but then again, no other 4WD can do these tracks in stock form INCLUDING a Toyota or Nissan. It cost me $24K. Many mods were done at cost as I was the first to get them done and so was the guinea pig. All up I spent another $10k TO GET IT OUTBACK BULLET PROOF. And most of the extras were what a person would spend on a "mainstream" 4Wd to get it bush ready. Ie Bull bar, Long range tank, Rear wheel carrier, Diff locks, snorkel, dual battery system, suspension upgrade, body lift, better tyres etc. The main issue with the vehicle is it is not a great tug. A small motor just cannot tow anything hence I traded it in when I decided I wanted more comfort and bought a caravan as well. Mind you many of those tracks you could not take a caravan on so it was the ideal vehicle for the purpose I got it for. In September 2016 after 6 years of ownership and 255,000 kms, I got $5000 as a trade in. So it cost me $29,000 in depreciation. In fact when traded it in, many things I took off the car and sold seperately. Tell me who has a Toyota which would have cost $80K+ in 2010 and gets $50,000 trade in? So the value of the car is well worth it. Also it was far cheaper to run than all the others including diesels. For example how much fuel does a lancruiser use? Bet they dont get better than 12ltrs per100kms in 4WD. But thats what I got.
Great Wall/Haval is quickly establishing itself world wide. It is the largest car seller in China, and makes many other manufactures products under licence. So if you think your BMW/Volkswagon/Renault is european made, think again.
As I said the main reason I got rid of the GW, was it cannot tow a van of any decent size.
After an initial problem with the importer into Aus, they have set up their own distribution. Many of you may well know of the distrubuter ATECO, and they have been responsible for many brands not gaining traction in Australia because of their biligerent attitude to product back up. Think Renault, Fiat, Citroen, to name a few. So I have no doubt the chinese will be quick learners of what is required and will no doubt deliver quality products far quicker than it took Hyundai, Kia etc to do.
macka17 said
06:30 PM Jan 21, 2017
And there speaks god.
The voice of a man that has DONE it.
Not just talked it.
Like I said. Most who have. are wrapped.
For the money...
Cruising Cruze said
08:42 PM Jan 21, 2017
@ Hako
We have one standing here in the street for $4000 2011 MODEL X240
it's been there a few months
Just came across this little bit of news
http://www.gr8wallrv.com/ I note they are luring dealers with the "LUCRATIVE RV INDUSTRY NEVER BEEN EASIER" banner.
Gday...
Neither supporting nor denigrating Great Wall vans or anything Chinese ...... BUT ........ remember initial reactions for early years of Japanese products? early years of Korean products? etc etc
Ya never know what 'quality' is in the offering.
[edit: and given the diatribe/s on how our Aussie manufacturers are the bane of every potential van buyer - these just might be as good
]
Cheers - John
-- Edited by rockylizard on Thursday 19th of January 2017 08:46:27 PM
Works in mines.
His current ute 4 yrs now (or more) is a Great Wall.
Runs to work on shift and daily work.
Reckons a little smaller inside but he prefers it.
Drivablity. Comfort and reliability is smack on.
Worth waaay more than costs.
Quite a few of the others think same too.
For the price. Very good.
When it comes to some Australian made vans the bar is set very low. Not much effort to beat.
Until you see the product it's hard to make a judgement.
I know of a couple of people who have had and still are having a great run out of their Great Wall.
How about the reproducing the full quote : BECOMING PART OF THE LUCRATIVE RV INDUSTRY NEVER BEEN EASIER
Not worth the paper they written on,
as the saying goes.
We know a wildlife photography guide in Cairns that's had a Great Wall 4x4 for many years traveling into outback QLD & the tip of Cape York hundreds of times, the vehicle hasn't missed a beat. Don't knock ém till you've tried ém!
Great Wall's RV's will probably ''cream'' a lot of the locally built trash.
-- Edited by Desert Dweller on Friday 20th of January 2017 05:17:41 AM
Bit like the Russian Belaris tractors when they began importing them 30 odd years ago. "Any colour as long as it's red", less than 1/2 the price of comparable HP Massey, Ford et al.
They were bagged as having no appeal, no re-sale etc but the performance was 'up there'!
Farmers soon realised that even with no re-sale value to speak of, after 3 good years use they could almost give them away & buy a new one & still be in front financially.
My thoughts it's hard enough getting caravans that are made locally properly serviced and made to be reliable,to me buying one of those products could be a nightmare why take the risk...
Were's the risk?
You can't get local products repaired under warranty properly without a fight, if at all.
As for motor homes, ask a few owners of Mercedes Benz and Fiat if they are having problems?
As others have stated, you mighht as well purchase two or three Great Wall products for the cost of one expensive lemon.
Not all go for railway waggons on tyres.
2 ton covers a lot. and that ute is PROVING.. Very reliable and up to job.
Bit small but hey.
If it does the job, comfortably, economically and safely.
What's there to lose.
At least you can talk to the factory over the phone here in plain English ,I found that better in my case then talking to the dealership .try doing that in an overseas country Google luck...
In our case and a few others I know of, we talked in English but might as well have been talking to the wall, the Great Wall would probably have been better.
I'm bad for it. but only stiring.
They've been out a while now. with good reputation innards.
and the few I know are more than happy.
I remember when Jap cars started.
Honda had the reputation of using 20 ltr drum sheeting,
rolled and pressed for door panels YEA>....
Look at them now.
Probably the best reputation motor vehicle in the world.
Regardless, I'd have one over a Toyota of any model other than Troopy.
Over rated, overpriced. Pieces of ....t.
It was not the greatest in the latest technology but had many features lacking on other far more expensive 4WD's. Ie electric seats, TPMS, Rear Camera, Adjustable Headlights, Leather seats, full climate control, sunroof. It was also very reliable as the basic mechanicals were built around Rodeo, Isuzu, Toyota and Mitsubishi, even if it was 2005 technology!.
Mine has featured in many magazines and also on TV. It was the first GW to do all the following: the Cape via the OTT and all the crossings including the hard gunshot, the Canning twice, Simpson both ways, the Anne Beadell, the Gibb River Road, Gunbarrell. Vic High Country, Fraser and just about any other Iconic track in Australian mainland.
It was not stock standard, but then again, no other 4WD can do these tracks in stock form INCLUDING a Toyota or Nissan. It cost me $24K. Many mods were done at cost as I was the first to get them done and so was the guinea pig. All up I spent another $10k TO GET IT OUTBACK BULLET PROOF. And most of the extras were what a person would spend on a "mainstream" 4Wd to get it bush ready. Ie Bull bar, Long range tank, Rear wheel carrier, Diff locks, snorkel, dual battery system, suspension upgrade, body lift, better tyres etc. The main issue with the vehicle is it is not a great tug. A small motor just cannot tow anything hence I traded it in when I decided I wanted more comfort and bought a caravan as well. Mind you many of those tracks you could not take a caravan on so it was the ideal vehicle for the purpose I got it for. In September 2016 after 6 years of ownership and 255,000 kms, I got $5000 as a trade in. So it cost me $29,000 in depreciation. In fact when traded it in, many things I took off the car and sold seperately. Tell me who has a Toyota which would have cost $80K+ in 2010 and gets $50,000 trade in? So the value of the car is well worth it. Also it was far cheaper to run than all the others including diesels. For example how much fuel does a lancruiser use? Bet they dont get better than 12ltrs per100kms in 4WD. But thats what I got.
Great Wall/Haval is quickly establishing itself world wide. It is the largest car seller in China, and makes many other manufactures products under licence. So if you think your BMW/Volkswagon/Renault is european made, think again.
As I said the main reason I got rid of the GW, was it cannot tow a van of any decent size.
After an initial problem with the importer into Aus, they have set up their own distribution. Many of you may well know of the distrubuter ATECO, and they have been responsible for many brands not gaining traction in Australia because of their biligerent attitude to product back up. Think Renault, Fiat, Citroen, to name a few. So I have no doubt the chinese will be quick learners of what is required and will no doubt deliver quality products far quicker than it took Hyundai, Kia etc to do.
The voice of a man that has DONE it.
Not just talked it.
Like I said. Most who have. are wrapped.
For the money...
We have one standing here in the street for $4000 2011 MODEL X240
it's been there a few months
Cheers John