my new van measures 18 foot four inches on the out side not including the draw bar or bumper bar, its called the 16 foot six inch model ,I said to the dealer what's going on ,oh we measure things from the inside now was his answer, that's stupidity to me, does that mean my four wheel drive is only six foot long Now seems a lot bigger when I put it in the garage
ants_oz said
05:27 PM Jan 18, 2017
I believe you will find it's a very common way to measure caravans - internal body length.
Makes sense - that is the space you are using.
Vince said
05:55 PM Jan 18, 2017
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Eaglemax said
05:56 PM Jan 18, 2017
Im happy about this new way Ron D
It means i can tell people i have a 38 inch waistline even if i have to wear 112st dacks...
Vince said
05:56 PM Jan 18, 2017
Imagine going to a CV park and when they ask "how long is your rig"
And it won't fit on the site!
Possum3 said
06:18 PM Jan 18, 2017
Vince the size of some of the sites in the van parks are so small a box trailer has to be manoeuvred and car unhitched - and they want a King's ransom for that.
Ron-D said
06:56 PM Jan 18, 2017
There's some good points when we book the ferry for tassie with a six foot car and a 16 foot van it will save us a mint
rockylizard said
07:32 PM Jan 18, 2017
Ron-D wrote:
There's some good points when we book the ferry for tassie with a six foot car and a 16 foot van it will save us a mint
Gday...
Sorry Ron.
Spirit of Tasmania site sez -
[edit: PS - my van is a Nov 2008 build which I ordered in Aug 2008 ... it has always been described as a 21 ft 6 in van (and clearly states that is the INTERNAL measurement on ALL the paperwork. So it is not really a "new" way of measuring. ]
Cheers- John
-- Edited by rockylizard on Wednesday 18th of January 2017 07:35:09 PM
vanman said
10:41 PM Jan 18, 2017
My caravan is metric and has been since I have owned it.
My first caravan (a Coromal) was a 535 model purchased in 1996. The 535 meaning that it was 5.35m long.
When booking on the Tassie ferry I gave the measurements in metric.
Regards Chris
Bill B said
11:01 PM Jan 18, 2017
Most makes have been measured that way for years.
Jayco is one of the few that uses external body measurements to denote van sizes.
macka17 said
01:32 AM Jan 19, 2017
Yea.
Jayco just want to make people think they are getting more for their money
(More rubbish)
97% vans as long as I can remember (over 50 yrs) have been "internal" measurement.
Some did do Ext but not for long.
and then there's total,(inc Drawabar.)
So you have choice of three. Take your pick.
The 535 is 17 ft 10 in.
I'll have a look tomorrer as to whether that's inside or out?
Hmmmmm. Never bothered looking.
Lancelot Link said
01:53 AM Jan 19, 2017
I don't care, mine is a 13.42.2 which is big enough for me and not big enough after a feed of baked beans or corn beef, cabbage and mash, both of which I am partial to!! With regard to the closeness of other sites, I have found possums living within 3 metres of each other and they still fight, guess it is the nature of the beast. Other than that, I do have a 6 pack that is bordering on a very large wine cask which has been referred to as the third trimester? So, in time, I will be geriatric, which means, I have forgotten what I was going to say! Or did I just say that time as a measurement is relative to how much time you spend in your van, regardless of the size and enjoy it! Who cares how big it is, it is what you get out of it!
Fringe Dweller said
06:33 AM Jan 19, 2017
just to add to some confusion . Mine is 5.12. And , no it's not 5.12 long - in Or out.
It is 5.1 long & 2 berths . But a 5.11 is also 5.1 with 2 berths or is it , mine 2 beds a 511 , one bed.
Does not matter to me , at 16' 9" when we bought it , was big enough for us , but small enough to tow.
Ron-D said
08:09 AM Jan 19, 2017
To me personally the outside dimension is the more useful figure ,just like cars the outside length is what we need to know with vehicles. Just a personal opinion!
For example how do you measure a motor home is it measured by the internal space of the box? measuring vehicles by the internal space seems a bit weird.
I notice in caravan magazines they quote external body lengths makes a lot of sense,that way you how the length of the thing that your towing,the lengh of the thing you have to fit into a space.when you step into your new Rv you can see how much room you have..it's a caravan or a motor home not a bloody lounge room
-- Edited by Ron-D on Thursday 19th of January 2017 08:18:24 AM
ants_oz said
08:14 AM Jan 19, 2017
Bill B wrote:
Most makes have been measured that way for years.
Jayco is one of the few that uses external body measurements to denote van sizes.
Dunno about other models, but mine (22.68-1) is measured internal body length.
(A quick straw-poll of a half-dozen vans on the Jayco website shows that using their specs for "interior length" fairly closely correlating with the model designation)
-- Edited by ants_oz on Thursday 19th of January 2017 08:26:08 AM
ants_oz said
08:17 AM Jan 19, 2017
Ron-D wrote:
To me personally the outside dimension is the more useful figure ,just like cars the outside length is what we need to know with vehicles. Just a personal opinion!
For example how do you measure a motor home is it measured by the internal space of the boxj?measuring vehicles by the internal space seems a bit weird.
Aren't BOTH figures equally useful for different purposes?
How does the overall length, which might include a large rear bumper, extended drawbar etc - help identify the actual living space of the van? Equally, how does the living space help identify the overall length (eg for Spirit of Tas fees)?
Two different numbers for two different purposes.
macka17 said
11:29 AM Jan 19, 2017
It's Normally assessed to living space.
That's basically. WHAT you are buying.
The rest is just carrying it around.
On average, normally 15\18 inches plus drawbar.
No matter.
You happy... Fine, figures irrelavant.
Eaglemax said
05:19 PM Jan 19, 2017
My van is an Awesome Dawson 362436. Not van dimensions...the measurements of the girl on the back of the dunny door...:)
Fringe Dweller said
06:55 AM Jan 21, 2017
As I said , a bit more confusion . Tip to tail - 7 metres .
With my spares , in piggy back & my "dunny carter" (purpose made box to put porta loo in" added to back = 900mm.
And drawbar at 1200 plus my 5.3 for th tug is a bit of expensive crossing on th KI & Tas ferries.
my new van measures 18 foot four inches on the out side not including the draw bar or bumper bar, its called the 16 foot six inch model ,I said to the dealer what's going on ,oh we measure things from the inside now was his answer, that's stupidity to me, does that mean my four wheel drive is only six foot long Now seems a lot bigger when I put it in the garage
Makes sense - that is the space you are using.
There's some good points when we book the ferry for tassie with a six foot car and a 16 foot van it will save us a mint
Gday...
Spirit of Tasmania site sez -
[edit: PS - my van is a Nov 2008 build which I ordered in Aug 2008 ... it has always been described as a 21 ft 6 in van (and clearly states that is the INTERNAL measurement on ALL the paperwork. So it is not really a "new" way of measuring.
]
Cheers- John
-- Edited by rockylizard on Wednesday 18th of January 2017 07:35:09 PM
My first caravan (a Coromal) was a 535 model purchased in 1996. The 535 meaning that it was 5.35m long.
When booking on the Tassie ferry I gave the measurements in metric.
Regards Chris
Jayco is one of the few that uses external body measurements to denote van sizes.
Jayco just want to make people think they are getting more for their money
(More rubbish)
97% vans as long as I can remember (over 50 yrs) have been "internal" measurement.
Some did do Ext but not for long.
and then there's total,(inc Drawabar.)
So you have choice of three. Take your pick.
The 535 is 17 ft 10 in.
I'll have a look tomorrer as to whether that's inside or out?
Hmmmmm. Never bothered looking.
just to add to some confusion . Mine is 5.12. And , no it's not 5.12 long - in Or out.
It is 5.1 long & 2 berths . But a 5.11 is also 5.1 with 2 berths or is it , mine 2 beds a 511 , one bed.
Does not matter to me , at 16' 9" when we bought it , was big enough for us , but small enough to tow.
To me personally the outside dimension is the more useful figure ,just like cars the outside length is what we need to know with vehicles. Just a personal opinion!
For example how do you measure a motor home is it measured by the internal space of the box? measuring vehicles by the internal space seems a bit weird.
I notice in caravan magazines they quote external body lengths makes a lot of sense,that way you how the length of the thing that your towing,the lengh of the thing you have to fit into a space.when you step into your new Rv you can see how much room you have..it's a caravan or a motor home not a bloody lounge room
-- Edited by Ron-D on Thursday 19th of January 2017 08:18:24 AM
Dunno about other models, but mine (22.68-1) is measured internal body length.
(A quick straw-poll of a half-dozen vans on the Jayco website shows that using their specs for "interior length" fairly closely correlating with the model designation)
-- Edited by ants_oz on Thursday 19th of January 2017 08:26:08 AM
Aren't BOTH figures equally useful for different purposes?
How does the overall length, which might include a large rear bumper, extended drawbar etc - help identify the actual living space of the van? Equally, how does the living space help identify the overall length (eg for Spirit of Tas fees)?
Two different numbers for two different purposes.
That's basically. WHAT you are buying.
The rest is just carrying it around.
On average, normally 15\18 inches plus drawbar.
No matter.
You happy... Fine, figures irrelavant.
As I said , a bit more confusion . Tip to tail - 7 metres .
With my spares , in piggy back & my "dunny carter" (purpose made box to put porta loo in" added to back = 900mm.
And drawbar at 1200 plus my 5.3 for th tug is a bit of expensive crossing on th KI & Tas ferries.
12.3 , that's as long as a trailer on a semi.