We just got home and sitting in our letter box is a letter from the ATO What do they want now!!!!!
Undeclared income from the CBA BANK.= $471,301.43 For Lambie Account xx005532........
Lambie...... did you just happen to win Lotto and forget to tell me.
We have 28 days to reply with penalties to apply.
Rang the accountant...... We have never had an account with the CBA .BUGGER.
However we have to do the leg work and let the ATO its not ours and can they correct their records please.
The CBA reports to the ATO. Yet another STUFF UP.
I must remember to put a ticket in this Saturdays draw.
Jim
jules47 said
01:12 PM Jan 12, 2017
Good luck with that one Jim - if we hear you are getting a new van and tug, we'll know you hit the jackpot!
The Belmont Bear said
02:49 PM Jan 12, 2017
Jim, the black adder would describe this as " a cunning yet devious plan" developed by some very smart public servant in the ATO in order to catch people out. What they do is send out 4 or 5 million of these letters on the off chance that 1) someone has an account with CBA and 2) they did actually earn $471,301.43 and failed to declare it. They know that if there is a guilty party out there they will panic and break cover and that's when they will pounce. Sit tight mate don't admit to anything it was just blind luck that they happened to come up with a number that matched the exact amount that you had stashed.....if only they would use their intelligence for good instead of evil.......
Gaylehere said
03:03 PM Jan 12, 2017
Hi, Thought you were going to tell us about a scam. I wonder whose bank account is a little short? I remember when our daughter was little, $200 or there abouts was going in to her savings account fortnightly for some time before we realized and informed the bank an error was being made. Even after that it took time for the payments to stop and the money withdrawn. I guess if someone was putting it into an account for the future and it not being used it would take awhile for them to realize the mistake too.
Bushpie said
07:49 PM Jan 12, 2017
Sounds to me like a scam......... surely our tax office dosent make stuff ups like this.........or
if they do maybe a friendly word in the Commissioners ear.
dogbox said
08:55 PM Jan 12, 2017
that is $471301.43 in undeclared INCOME just tell them no problem show me the source of the money
if it is a dividend payment it would work out you had aprox $10 million invested or someone is on the board of directors in most cases a tfn would be required or tax withheld at top rate
big chance it is a scam
had official looking email the other day saying bank account frozen contact a thirteen hundred number or click on link check the number on banks web page(number was theirs) rang it got the answering machine push this no. push that no. finally got on to bank they said not them
I wonder how many people would give up trying to get thru to the bank an clicked on the link
-- Edited by dogbox on Thursday 12th of January 2017 08:57:12 PM
Hey Jim said
10:33 PM Jan 12, 2017
Bushpie wrote:
Sounds to me like a scam......... surely our tax office dosent make stuff ups like this.........or
if they do maybe a friendly word in the Commissioners ear.
Hi Bushpie & DogBox,
No Scam this time. Full ATO letter head with my wifes TFN on it.
The Letter goes straight to our Accountants office, checked, and then forwarded to us, with his cover letter for to us to answer.
Our accountant his head and tells us to contact the ATO directly. We did that this afternoon. The ATO tells us to contact the CBA (LAZY BUMBS).
We called head office and they after going through a long check (as we do not have any Accounts with them ) with us and then The BSB and AC Number on our letter. They say both the BSB and AC number can't be brought up on their computers. And tell us to visit our nearest CBA with the letter.
This fills us with every confidence in the CBA
So we did this, this afternoon. We need a letter from the CBA to address to the ATO to say that, it is not our A/C.
The branch say's both the BSB and A/c Numbers are to long.
At 5pm we get a call to say we can collect the letter from the manager of the branch tomorrow afternoon. No further information as yet. We will be asking when we collect our letter.
Man We should send the ATO a bill for our time.
Jim
-- Edited by Hey Jim on Thursday 12th of January 2017 10:41:18 PM
Bagmaker said
10:58 PM Jan 12, 2017
Jim, make sure you send a bill to both the ATO AND the Cba for your time.
Or they will not learn.
Back it up with a monthly claim for fees and interest
DMaxer said
11:12 AM Jan 13, 2017
I don't quite understand all the hysteria.
A simple letter to the ATO informing them of their errors and they then need to verify the account.
Old legal maxim, "he who asserts must prove" ...in other words if the ATO claim it is your money, they have to prove it, not the reverse.
hako said
11:23 AM Jan 13, 2017
Hey Jim says: "The branch say's both the BSB and A/c Numbers are to long.".....that would indicate it is definitely a scam right from the start. Amazing that so many were fooled.
Good Luck.
Aus-Kiwi said
12:24 PM Jan 13, 2017
I have a concern over electronic bills being sent out also ? Telstra etc .. How do you know it's ligit ?
Aus-Kiwi said
12:28 PM Jan 13, 2017
Check it's possibly that overseas account you have ?? Lol Ohh your not a politician !!
dogbox said
12:48 PM Jan 13, 2017
if not a scam ask the ato for the source of the undisclosed income the income had to come from somewhere
Hey Jim said
01:44 PM Jan 13, 2017
Hi Dogbox,
Its the CBA reporting to the ATO.
Im collecting shortly, the letter from the bank so we will see what they have to say.
Cheers Jim
hako said
02:27 PM Jan 13, 2017
I just got one from the NAB which I did not open....just for interest I checked where it originated - note the address - m.nab is the giveaway.
NAB - National Australia.
NAB - National Australia.'s profile photo id761523@m.nab.com
dogbox said
08:59 PM Jan 13, 2017
Hey Jim wrote:
Hi Dogbox,
Its the CBA reporting to the ATO.
Im collecting shortly, the letter from the bank so we will see what they have to say.
Cheers Jim
you are saying the CBA has no info/account ect the letter from ATO should have a reference no / name on it
Hey Jim said
09:28 PM Jan 13, 2017
Hi Hako and everyone,
Well we got our letter + a bank stamp on the bottom of the letter stating that it is not there BSB nor do they have such an account number.
and my wife has nothing to do with them.
So who sent / sends these reports with my wife's details attached in detail to the ATO.
And then the ATO says we are to Cough.
Yes I would like an answer from the ATO. However I don't think one will be coming anytime soon.
All our dealings come and go online through our accountants.
They then get printed off in their office, then forward to ourselves.
Regards Jim
Hey Jim said
09:33 PM Jan 13, 2017
dogbox wrote:
Hey Jim wrote:
Hi Dogbox,
Its the CBA reporting to the ATO.
Im collecting shortly, the letter from the bank so we will see what they have to say.
Cheers Jim
you are saying the CBA has no info/account ect the letter from ATO should have a reference no / name on it
Hi Dogbox,
Yes There is a Reference No on our letter to quote back to the ATO with our dealings with them. Not who sent the information.
brickies said
10:27 PM Jan 13, 2017
This could only happen to Hey Jim .
Hey Jim said
07:50 AM Jan 14, 2017
brickies wrote:
This could only happen to Hey Jim .
Hi Brickies,
My Wife actually.Put you glasses on.
You always want to to dig at people like myself.
This site would be far better off without people like you Dennis. Get a life.
Regards Jim
rockylizard said
08:12 AM Jan 14, 2017
Gday...
GEEZ Jim ... So if I have read this thread carefully enough, what you are saying is that the CBA (out of the blue and without any request from ATO) sent advice to the ATO that they were holding $471,301.43 in an account in your wife's name.
ATO then, because they had no other option, contacted your wife (through your accountant) to provide verification that the monies were indeed held by your wife in a CBA account ... and for your wife to substantiate that amount and then to explain why this 'income' was not previously declared.
Upon YOUR (or your accountant's) checking with CBA, CBA determine that the account advised to ATO is not their BSB nor a CBA account number (as it was too long) and that your wife indeed did not hold an account with CBA.
ATO obviously will now drop any pursuit of your good wife ... and either pursue the CBA to provide more detailed, CORRECT, information (if it exists) or treat it as a bad joke, have a latte and move on.
Maaaaaaaate ... I reckon this has all been a scam of some sort ... more holes than a sieve.
Cheers - and put it outta ya mind ... with that van of yours, you already got more on ya plate than anyone should be made to bear - John
[edit - PS. I reckon Brickies is sorta rite mate ... it sounds like the sort of thing that seems to be attracted to Hey Jim and Lambie]
-- Edited by rockylizard on Saturday 14th of January 2017 09:39:08 AM
brickies said
08:23 AM Jan 14, 2017
Wait for the next big story .
Blues Man said
08:27 AM Jan 14, 2017
Hi everyone ,
This is to check if it is a scam email or not.
If you go to the sender's email address , whether it be ----"apple","NBA " ,"CBA" ,"Ergon" or whoever , Put the mouse courser on the senders email address , which is at the top left hand corner of
the letter ,then right click the mouse , the real address will show up ,you can then check the genuine site against the fake one.
Hope that makes sense .
Hope this helpful.
Cheers '
Bluesman.
rockylizard said
08:30 AM Jan 14, 2017
Gday...
Good advice for an emailed letter Blues Man ... but this thread began with the words - "We just got home and sitting in our letter box is a letter from the ATO".
Damned hard to get ya mouse to work on a bit of paper
Cheers - John
Blues Man said
08:42 AM Jan 14, 2017
rockylizard wrote:
Gday...
Good advice for an emailed letter Blues Man ... but this thread began with the words - "We just got home and sitting in our letter box is a letter from the ATO".
Damned hard to get ya mouse to work on a bit of paper
Cheers - John
Yeah you're Right John but i just thought i'de put it out there for the masses
Nearly got scammed once and when i rang "the telstra people" they told me what to do .
The scam email from telstra said that i have paid too much on my bill (i never pay too much on my bill ) and if i go to their link they will put the money back into my account,"Yeah Right!!!!!".
-- Edited by Blues Man on Saturday 14th of January 2017 08:43:54 AM
macka17 said
10:59 AM Jan 14, 2017
A lot of these ARE O'Seas based.
and when you ring the number it's one of those $5\8\10 a call things.
You pay for every call
Links normally put THEM straight through to your Computer hard drive and it's contents.
My Philosophy is.
If it's real. They'll send a reminder. Wait and see.
If THEY gonna give YOU anything. For less or otherwise.
Delete.
Nobody gives anything away for free to strangers nowadays.
It's bad enough getting it back from the kids Ha Ha.
"I thought you gave me that dad"
Something for nothing. Be sensible and forget\delete it.
It ain't gonna happen. No matter how much you dream.
Hey Jim said
05:49 PM Jan 14, 2017
rockylizard wrote:
Gday...
GEEZ Jim ... So if I have read this thread carefully enough, what you are saying is that the CBA (out of the blue and without any request from ATO) sent advice to the ATO that they were holding $471,301.43 in an account in your wife's name.
ATO then, because they had no other option, contacted your wife (through your accountant) to provide verification that the monies were indeed held by your wife in a CBA account ... and for your wife to substantiate that amount and then to explain why this 'income' was not previously declared.
Upon YOUR (or your accountant's) checking with CBA, CBA determine that the account advised to ATO is not their BSB nor a CBA account number (as it was too long) and that your wife indeed did not hold an account with CBA.
ATO obviously will now drop any pursuit of your good wife ... and either pursue the CBA to provide more detailed, CORRECT, information (if it exists) or treat it as a bad joke, have a latte and move on.
Maaaaaaaate ... I reckon this has all been a scam of some sort ... more holes than a sieve.
Cheers - and put it outta ya mind ... with that van of yours, you already got more on ya plate than anyone should be made to bear - John
[edit - PS. I reckon Brickies is sorta rite mate ... it sounds like the sort of thing that seems to be attracted to Hey Jim and Lambie]
-- Edited by rockylizard on Saturday 14th of January 2017 09:39:08 AM
Hi John,
Thanks for your reply,
What we don't GET is if it were some type of scram 1. How the hell dose one get hold of my wife's TFN.
2. Even if it were to be a correct BSB + A/C Number.
3. Our dealings with the ATO are completed, Via internet banking for payments. So how can a
scammer extract Monies from us in the first instance.
4. My wife wants the answers from the ATO as to who did supply the information. As it breaches
her privacy.
5. Yes they will drop the matter, with our letter from CBA.
6.We will lodge this letter via our accountant and make copies. We still want an answer.
We will sign off, and sit back and see if the ATO will tell us.
Thanks again to all.
Regards Jim
Possum3 said
06:08 PM Jan 14, 2017
Jim, I suggest definitely not a scam a similar type of letter was received by the Child Bride's mother - well into 90's. Caused her Mom uncertain grief as they suggested that she would lose pension - Child bride accompanied Mom to Centre Link - who determined her account had a certain amount in it many years ago - she had to detail to ATO where money went and how she spent it detailing transactions and living expences since being on pension. Apparently current account details are not good enough.
macka17 said
07:50 PM Jan 14, 2017
Yep.
we spent a fair bit over last ten yrs or so. Mainly O'Seas travel and updating house.
Deck ooms ext, and pool plus decking out back.
Keep your recpt's if you do anything over about 50k.and definitely if over several hundred.
They query it. ten yrs later.
Bill B said
09:13 PM Jan 14, 2017
Hey Jim wrote: The branch say's both the BSB and A/c Numbers are to long.
Something doesn't add here as "Your" letter shows an 8 digit account number and CBA accounts can have an 8 digit account number & a 6 digit BSB No
We just got home and sitting in our letter box is a letter from the ATO
What do they want now!!!!!
Undeclared income from the CBA BANK.= $471,301.43 For Lambie
Account xx005532........
Lambie...... did you just happen to win Lotto and forget to tell me.
We have 28 days to reply with penalties to apply.
Rang the accountant......
We have never had an account with the CBA .BUGGER
.
However we have to do the leg work and let the ATO its not ours and can they correct their records please.
The CBA reports to the ATO. Yet another STUFF UP.
I must remember to put a ticket in this Saturdays draw.
Jim
Jim, the black adder would describe this as " a cunning yet devious plan" developed by some very smart public servant in the ATO in order to catch people out. What they do is send out 4 or 5 million of these letters on the off chance that 1) someone has an account with CBA and 2) they did actually earn $471,301.43 and failed to declare it. They know that if there is a guilty party out there they will panic and break cover and that's when they will pounce. Sit tight mate don't admit to anything it was just blind luck that they happened to come up with a number that matched the exact amount that you had stashed.....if only they would use their intelligence for good instead of evil.......
if they do maybe a friendly word in the Commissioners ear.
if it is a dividend payment it would work out you had aprox $10 million invested or someone is on the board of directors in most cases a tfn would be required or tax withheld at top rate
big chance it is a scam
had official looking email the other day saying bank account frozen contact a thirteen hundred number or click on link check the number on banks web page(number was theirs) rang it got the answering machine push this no. push that no. finally got on to bank they said not them
I wonder how many people would give up trying to get thru to the bank an clicked on the link
-- Edited by dogbox on Thursday 12th of January 2017 08:57:12 PM
Hi Bushpie & DogBox,
No Scam this time. Full ATO letter head with my wifes TFN on it.
The Letter goes straight to our Accountants office, checked, and then forwarded to us, with his cover letter for to us to answer.
Our accountant
his head and tells us to contact the ATO directly. We did that this afternoon. The ATO tells us to contact the CBA (LAZY BUMBS).
We called head office and they after going through a long check (as we do not have any Accounts with them ) with us and then The BSB and AC Number on our letter. They say both the BSB and AC number can't be brought up on their computers. And tell us to visit our nearest CBA with the letter.
This fills us with every confidence in the CBA
So we did this, this afternoon. We need a letter from the CBA to address to the ATO to say that, it is not our A/C.
The branch say's both the BSB and A/c Numbers are to long.
At 5pm we get a call to say we can collect the letter from the manager of the branch tomorrow afternoon. No further information as yet. We will be asking when we collect our letter.
Man We should send the ATO a bill for our time.
Jim
-- Edited by Hey Jim on Thursday 12th of January 2017 10:41:18 PM
Or they will not learn.
Back it up with a monthly claim for fees and interest
Good Luck.
Hi Dogbox,
Its the CBA reporting to the ATO.
Im collecting shortly, the letter from the bank so we will see what they have to say.
Cheers Jim
NAB - National Australia.
NAB - National Australia.'s profile photo
id761523@m.nab.com
you are saying the CBA has no info/account ect the letter from ATO should have a reference no / name on it
Hi Hako and everyone,
Well we got our letter + a bank stamp on the bottom of the letter stating that it is not there BSB nor do they have such an account number.
and my wife has nothing to do with them.
So who sent / sends these reports with my wife's details attached in detail to the ATO.
And then the ATO says we are to Cough.
Yes I would like an answer from the ATO. However I don't think one will be coming anytime soon.
All our dealings come and go online through our accountants.
They then get printed off in their office, then forward to ourselves.
Regards Jim
Hi Dogbox,
Yes There is a Reference No on our letter to quote back to the ATO with our dealings with them. Not who sent the information.
Hi Brickies,
My Wife actually.Put you glasses on.
You always want to to dig at people like myself.
This site would be far better off without people like you Dennis. Get a life.
Regards Jim
Gday...
ATO then, because they had no other option, contacted your wife (through your accountant) to provide verification that the monies were indeed held by your wife in a CBA account ... and for your wife to substantiate that amount and then to explain why this 'income' was not previously declared.
Upon YOUR (or your accountant's) checking with CBA, CBA determine that the account advised to ATO is not their BSB nor a CBA account number (as it was too long) and that your wife indeed did not hold an account with CBA.
ATO obviously will now drop any pursuit of your good wife ... and either pursue the CBA to provide more detailed, CORRECT, information (if it exists) or treat it as a bad joke, have a latte and move on.
Maaaaaaaate ... I reckon this has all been a scam of some sort ... more holes than a sieve.
Cheers - and put it outta ya mind ... with that van of yours, you already got more on ya plate than anyone should be made to bear - John
[edit - PS. I reckon Brickies is sorta rite mate ... it sounds like the sort of thing that seems to be attracted to Hey Jim and Lambie
]
-- Edited by rockylizard on Saturday 14th of January 2017 09:39:08 AM
Hi everyone ,
This is to check if it is a scam email or not.
If you go to the sender's email address , whether it be ----"apple","NBA " ,"CBA" ,"Ergon" or whoever , Put the mouse courser on the senders email address , which is at the top left hand corner of
the letter ,then right click the mouse , the real address will show up ,you can then check the genuine site against the fake one.
Hope that makes sense .
Hope this helpful.
Cheers '
Bluesman.
Gday...
Good advice for an emailed letter Blues Man ... but this thread began with the words - "We just got home and sitting in our letter box is a letter from the ATO".
Damned hard to get ya mouse to work on a bit of paper
Cheers - John
Yeah you're Right John
but i just thought i'de put it out there for the masses 
Nearly got scammed once and when i rang "the telstra people" they told me what to do .
The scam email from telstra said that i have paid too much on my bill (i never pay too much on my bill
) and if i go to their link they will put the money back into my account,"Yeah Right!!!!!".
-- Edited by Blues Man on Saturday 14th of January 2017 08:43:54 AM
and when you ring the number it's one of those $5\8\10 a call things.
You pay for every call
Links normally put THEM straight through to your Computer hard drive and it's contents.
My Philosophy is.
If it's real. They'll send a reminder. Wait and see.
If THEY gonna give YOU anything. For less or otherwise.
Delete.
Nobody gives anything away for free to strangers nowadays.
It's bad enough getting it back from the kids Ha Ha.
"I thought you gave me that dad"
Something for nothing. Be sensible and forget\delete it.
It ain't gonna happen. No matter how much you dream.
Hi John,
Thanks for your reply,
What we don't GET is if it were some type of scram 1. How the hell dose one get hold of my wife's TFN.
2. Even if it were to be a correct BSB + A/C Number.
3. Our dealings with the ATO are completed, Via internet banking for payments. So how can a
scammer extract Monies from us in the first instance.
4. My wife wants the answers from the ATO as to who did supply the information. As it breaches
her privacy.
5. Yes they will drop the matter, with our letter from CBA.
6.We will lodge this letter via our accountant and make copies. We still want an answer.
We will sign off, and sit back and see if the ATO will tell us.
Thanks again to all.
Regards Jim
we spent a fair bit over last ten yrs or so. Mainly O'Seas travel and updating house.
Deck
ooms ext, and pool plus decking out back.
Keep your recpt's if you do anything over about 50k.and definitely if over several hundred.
They query it. ten yrs later.
Something doesn't add here as "Your" letter shows an 8 digit account number and
CBA accounts can have an 8 digit account number & a 6 digit BSB No