About 5th down the list of best value for money and usefulness
on a good day.
Hylife said
10:14 PM Jan 6, 2017
If like a growing number of buyers, you don't want a ute rear end but love the idea of the unbreakable Toyota heritage, go with the Fortuner.
The exact same vehicle but a wagon body and coil sprung instead of leaf. A more comfortable ride, a more stable tow, but slightly less towing capacity at 3,000 (man) 2,800 (auto).
Most makers have gone down the wagon'ising' route because there is a huge market of folks who want serious off-road and towing capabilities but who loath the idea of a ute.
Mitsubishi Triton = Pajero Sport
Ford Ranger = Everest
Isuzu Dmax = MUx
Holden Colorado = Colorado 7
Toyota Hilux = Fortuner
Nissan Navara = (under development by Mitsi)
Vaughan said
10:30 AM Jan 7, 2017
Bought a Fortuner just over a year ago and did a half lap, 11,000 k,s. Absolelutly perfect tow vehicle .
The Belmont Bear said
11:13 AM Jan 7, 2017
I guess all of those vehicles would probably make good tow vehicles providing that you kept them within their actual capability, which in some cases will vary from what the manufacturer or sales people claim it to be. To be honest in terms of performance I have found that the Sport is approaching it's limit pulling 2.6T even though it's rated at 3.1T.
Aussie said
02:52 PM Jan 7, 2017
Funny about the Hi-lux knockers, considering The Toyota Hi-lux just won the most popular vehicle in Aust for 2016. The first time a non-family type has won it. Usually its Holdens and Fords most of the time. OK I'm ready!
Aus-Kiwi said
06:49 PM Jan 7, 2017
Most sold or most poplar doesn't make em necessary a good car . Doesn't mean the car Manu make a profit either !!
Aussie said
06:55 PM Jan 7, 2017
OK Aus-Kiwi, please enlighten this dumb old errr person, what does make a vehicle good ?
P.S. I didn't say they are good, they just won the comp.
macka17 said
08:44 PM Jan 7, 2017
Commercial and large reductions for businesses give large sales.
They've always been the most gutless worse handling Uncomfortable of all utes for yrs.
Look at reviews from DRIVERS. Not paid magazine writers
This latest engine is the first one they've ever made that comes anywhere near a few of the others
and they still around 5th on the list.
The prime reason they've had "Unbreakable" in their advertising for decades. IS.
If you were to check on it in comparisons.
They are that low geared and the most UNDER powered on the market.
among ALL the utes.
You couldn't break them if you tried. they don't do anything.
Apart from Pistons. C.V's. front susp and a few other things.
And apart from a coupla chinese ones. plus that Mahindra (Indian) ute.
Isuzu build the most reliable. and power for dollar eng\transm on market.
IF they were to ever open a car mfg quality plant as the other utes have done.
Instead of building in truck, commercial prod lines.
There's probably be nothing else sold on market.
Seriously.
That 3.9ltr diesel they installed in all Military Landrovers and small trucks till block moulds wore out.
Was "probably".. The best small diesel Commercial engine EVER produced.
The later 3 ltr is a modern derivative suited more to later,
but NOT the latest markets.
Not fancy. not fast.
but take you pretty much anywhere.
And get you back 99.8% of the times.
And will tow anything in rings round a STANDARD Toyota ute.
rockylizard said
08:55 PM Jan 7, 2017
Gday...
Ya know why I jest LURV to post reviews of various vehicles ?????
For the pure entertainment value this forum provides.
It brings out all the opinionated, biased, but of course experienced and informed comments.
and WOW .... even a 250 word diatribe.
Ya jest gotta love this forum ... I wouldn't miss a day of it ... or be dead for quids
Cheers - John
macka17 said
10:04 PM Jan 7, 2017
Yea John.
Shame it,s all true hey.
Send review on a decent truck\mfg next time. chuckle.
The Belmont Bear said
10:02 AM Jan 8, 2017
John when we were kids we used to put a stick in a bull ant nest just to watch them all come racing out - there are topics on this forum you know as soon as they are posted that they are going to have the same effect. I remember we had to be careful with ants every now and then one would sneak through your guard and latch onto to you....hurt like hell. I guess we were silly enough to keep doing it because when someone got hit all their cursing and jumping around provided good entertainment for the others.
-- Edited by The Belmont Bear on Sunday 8th of January 2017 10:02:49 AM
Bill B said
10:38 AM Jan 8, 2017
For some the topic is irrelevant as they are self proclaimed experts on everything known to mankind
Desert Dweller said
12:40 PM Jan 8, 2017
I personally have no opinion on the latest Toyota Hilux ute but I was rather surprised to read recently in the DRIVE segment of the Melbourne Age that it was classified as a MISS in a HITS & MISSES OF 2016 article.
Aus-Kiwi said
01:03 PM Jan 8, 2017
I didn't say they good or bad .. The P75 and Valiant Charger won car of the year too . Holden out sold a lot of other many over the years . But there was a long period they didn't make any profits ? The SUV type vehicle suites the whole family more than just t a car for Mum or larger for Dad . It sort of ties all the goods in "one" . All compromises are acceptable to most . Up north out back a sedan is rare these days .. Btw they are hardly a budget buy either ! It's also the larger Patrol , Cruiser is so expensive ! These lighter vehicles are being up graded to tow vans . The older first generation would hardly be considered ! Sheesh auto correct !! Pita !!
-- Edited by Aus-Kiwi on Sunday 8th of January 2017 01:11:25 PM
-- Edited by Aus-Kiwi on Sunday 8th of January 2017 01:13:04 PM
Bill B said
01:12 PM Jan 8, 2017
Aus-Kiwi wrote:
The P75 and Valiant Charger won car of the year too .
AK what was a P75 - an incompleted P76 ?
macka17 said
01:27 PM Jan 8, 2017
YEP.
They all come out.
I'm just hoping people with no knowledge of utes etc and in process of maybe buying.
Will take note. Look further. and not buy a second rate one through bulk advertising. is all.
A Lfew of the others are a better vehicle at lower pricing.
Must admit though.
They have a good paint job. (distraction maybe?.)
Gday...
This is a VERY comprehensive review of the Hilux.
A bit long .. but it seems to cover every aspect of what one would want (need?) to know about a vehicle from an article.
The stuff about towing capability etc is about three-quarters down the page ... but it is worth reading the whole article if you want the guts.
https://practicalmotoring.com.au/car-reviews/2017-toyota-hilux-extracab-manual-review/?utm_source=Practical+Motoring+Newsletter&utm_campaign=02cadabbb5-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2017_01_06&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_b370c358c4-02cadabbb5-174555205
Cheers - John
Nuff sed.
About 5th down the list of best value for money and usefulness
on a good day.
If like a growing number of buyers, you don't want a ute rear end but love the idea of the unbreakable Toyota heritage, go with the Fortuner.
The exact same vehicle but a wagon body and coil sprung instead of leaf. A more comfortable ride, a more stable tow, but slightly less towing capacity at 3,000 (man) 2,800 (auto).
Most makers have gone down the wagon'ising' route because there is a huge market of folks who want serious off-road and towing capabilities but who loath the idea of a ute.
Mitsubishi Triton = Pajero Sport
Ford Ranger = Everest
Isuzu Dmax = MUx
Holden Colorado = Colorado 7
Toyota Hilux = Fortuner
Nissan Navara = (under development by Mitsi)
I guess all of those vehicles would probably make good tow vehicles providing that you kept them within their actual capability, which in some cases will vary from what the manufacturer or sales people claim it to be. To be honest in terms of performance I have found that the Sport is approaching it's limit pulling 2.6T even though it's rated at 3.1T.
Funny about the Hi-lux knockers, considering The Toyota Hi-lux just won the most popular vehicle in Aust for 2016. The first time a non-family type has won it. Usually its Holdens and Fords most of the time. OK I'm ready!
OK Aus-Kiwi, please enlighten this dumb old errr person, what does make a vehicle good ?
P.S. I didn't say they are good, they just won the comp.
They've always been the most gutless worse handling Uncomfortable of all utes for yrs.
Look at reviews from DRIVERS. Not paid magazine writers
This latest engine is the first one they've ever made that comes anywhere near a few of the others
and they still around 5th on the list.
The prime reason they've had "Unbreakable" in their advertising for decades. IS.
If you were to check on it in comparisons.
They are that low geared and the most UNDER powered on the market.
among ALL the utes.
You couldn't break them if you tried. they don't do anything.
Apart from Pistons. C.V's. front susp and a few other things.
And apart from a coupla chinese ones. plus that Mahindra (Indian) ute.
Isuzu build the most reliable. and power for dollar eng\transm on market.
IF they were to ever open a car mfg quality plant as the other utes have done.
Instead of building in truck, commercial prod lines.
There's probably be nothing else sold on market.
Seriously.
That 3.9ltr diesel they installed in all Military Landrovers and small trucks till block moulds wore out.
Was "probably".. The best small diesel Commercial engine EVER produced.
The later 3 ltr is a modern derivative suited more to later,
but NOT the latest markets.
Not fancy. not fast.
but take you pretty much anywhere.
And get you back 99.8% of the times.
And will tow anything in rings round a STANDARD Toyota ute.
Gday...
Ya know why I jest LURV to post reviews of various vehicles ?????
For the pure entertainment value this forum provides.
It brings out all the opinionated, biased, but of course experienced and informed comments.
and WOW .... even a 250 word diatribe.
Ya jest gotta love this forum ... I wouldn't miss a day of it ... or be dead for quids
Cheers - John
Shame it,s all true hey.
Send review on a decent truck\mfg next time. chuckle.
John when we were kids we used to put a stick in a bull ant nest just to watch them all come racing out - there are topics on this forum you know as soon as they are posted that they are going to have the same effect. I remember we had to be careful with ants every now and then one would sneak through your guard and latch onto to you....hurt like hell. I guess we were silly enough to keep doing it because when someone got hit all their cursing and jumping around provided good entertainment for the others.
-- Edited by The Belmont Bear on Sunday 8th of January 2017 10:02:49 AM
I personally have no opinion on the latest Toyota Hilux ute but I was rather surprised to read recently in the DRIVE segment of the Melbourne Age that it was classified as a MISS in a HITS & MISSES OF 2016 article.
I didn't say they good or bad .. The P75 and Valiant Charger won car of the year too . Holden out sold a lot of other many over the years . But there was a long period they didn't make any profits ? The SUV type vehicle suites the whole family more than just t a car for Mum or larger for Dad . It sort of ties all the goods in "one" . All compromises are acceptable to most . Up north out back a sedan is rare these days .. Btw they are hardly a budget buy either ! It's also the larger Patrol , Cruiser is so expensive ! These lighter vehicles are being up graded to tow vans . The older first generation would hardly be considered ! Sheesh auto correct !! Pita !!
-- Edited by Aus-Kiwi on Sunday 8th of January 2017 01:11:25 PM
-- Edited by Aus-Kiwi on Sunday 8th of January 2017 01:13:04 PM
AK what was a P75 - an incompleted P76 ?
They all come out.
I'm just hoping people with no knowledge of utes etc and in process of maybe buying.
Will take note. Look further. and not buy a second rate one through bulk advertising. is all.
A Lfew of the others are a better vehicle at lower pricing.
Must admit though.
They have a good paint job. (distraction maybe?.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoHbn8-ROiQ