Whenever I see a Jeep nowdays I keep well clear of them - just in case the wheels fall off, the motor blows up or in this case, it catches fire...........lol
Desert Dweller said
05:24 AM Dec 9, 2016
This is a shot of the last decent vehicle that Jeep built.
Santa will be further delayed due to the fact he bought a jeep.
macka17 said
11:07 AM Dec 9, 2016
Joking aside.
Over the yrs, they really have proven themselves. As a brand.... (A few are lucky?)
as about the biggest piece of rubbish on the roads.
Look nice enuff. But don't touch.
I remember a few yrs ago.
Mate owned a second hand car yard.
He was telling me the one car none ever took in (Unless it was nearly free)
was a Jeep of any model.
90% of the time, you were stuck with them till a mug came along.
My brother bought a new soft top version in Canada a few yrs ago.
5 yrs later, he sold for $3.750....
That was best price he could get. Eventually.
and it'd only run him to work and back in the city.Hard and soft top included.
Having owned one of these pieces of rubbish I agree also their dealerships leave a lot to be desired service is none existant especially out west the trick is to find a dealer
mjt57 said
01:31 PM Dec 10, 2016
Aside from the fact that it is for a limited number of petrol engined models, who here can be honest enough to claim that their chosen tow vehicle has had no recalls in either its life or that of its predecessors?
Without tapping on it.
That looks suspiciously like Toyota..???
My GU cost me $460ish for a Key ring Sensor, and a fan belt tensioner
in it's life with me.
Towing a 6.5 mtr offroader.
Prev '91 GQ cost nothing but lotsa petrol with a trailer on back
Great truck, even with Petrol donk.
If this Isuzu is half as good as either.
I'll be more than wrapped with it.
Bryan said
07:30 PM Dec 10, 2016
macka17 wrote:
Without tapping on it. That looks suspiciously like Toyota..???
My GU cost me $460ish for a Key ring Sensor, and a fan belt tensioner in it's life with me. Towing a 6.5 mtr offroader.
Prev '91 GQ cost nothing but lotsa petrol with a trailer on back Great truck, even with Petrol donk.
If this Isuzu is half as good as either. I'll be more than wrapped with it.
Macka its a list of recalls so far for 2016. Makes some very interesting reading.
Tony Bev said
07:41 PM Dec 10, 2016
mjt57 wrote:
Aside from the fact that it is for a limited number of petrol engined models, who here can be honest enough to claim that their chosen tow vehicle has had no recalls in either its life or that of its predecessors?
Tongue in cheek, so as not to start any flaming wars, but factual information
I shall put my hand up for this one
1969 Austin 1800 Mk II, towing a 12 foot (cub type) expandable ends caravan
1994 Ford Falcon EB (6 cylinder), towing a Viscount 17 foot caravan
If there had been any recalls, then no one had told me
macka17 said
01:52 PM Dec 11, 2016
Yes Tony.
BUT.
THEY are cars when cars WERE cars.
Mechanical...
Not all this electronic crap to make them both, more complex and more expensive.
to run and repair.
What I wouldn't give for a new GQ 4 ltr with Turbo.
or one of my early Squareline Fairlanes with 351 Windsor in there.
They'd tow anything anywhere and fully clockwork.
Run forever.
Best mechanical car I ever had for touring.
was my Audi 100 back in '71 in Sth Africaaa.
THAT. Was a SWEEEET car.
Nowadays. Coming out of VW FActory.
I wouldn't own one a day past it's warranty time out thank you.
Cars have gone backwards not forward.
They need to STOP.
Till electronic reliability with ALL of them catches up.
Mechanicals are basically fine.
Roving-Dutchy said
02:26 PM Dec 11, 2016
Oh for the good old days when cars were really cars
The head had to be removed regularly given a decarb and valve grind
Tappets needed constant adjustment.
Points in the distributor needed regular adjustment or replacing.
Oil needed constant topping up
Oil needed changing every 1000 miles instead of every 10,000 miles.
25 to 30 miles to the gallon of petrol instead of 40 to 50 miles to a gallon diesel.
Overheating when the weather was hot whenever you encountered a long hill
Then remember the 2 speed automatic.
The car that would often fail to start on a freezing cold morning if you didn't get the choke setting just right and if you got that wrong, you ended with a flooded engine which you of course kept trying to start until the battery was flat
Oh and if you happen to drop the clutch there was a fair chance of ending up with a broken back axle.
Of course with the drivers seat position one size fits all.
No heating in winter or cooling in summer.
Brakes that might just stop you in an emergency
Lights that barely lit up the road.
Windscreens when hit with rock became opaque
Cars with the cornering ability of a billy cart.
Arrrhh the good old days, they don't make cars like that anymore.
Cheers
David
Ron-D said
09:46 PM Dec 11, 2016
Yeah good post Dutchy the modern car ,like modern medicine makes our lives so much better ,in the good old days it was easier to fix your own vehicles and you needed too,who here would like to swap there modern tug for an eh Holden a gem of a car in its day But things have moved on for the better...
Bryan said
09:56 PM Dec 11, 2016
Roving-Dutchy wrote:
Oh for the good old days when cars were really cars The head had to be removed regularly given a decarb and valve grind Tappets needed constant adjustment. Points in the distributor needed regular adjustment or replacing. Oil needed constant topping up Oil needed changing every 1000 miles instead of every 10,000 miles. 25 to 30 miles to the gallon of petrol instead of 40 to 50 miles to a gallon diesel. Overheating when the weather was hot whenever you encountered a long hill Then remember the 2 speed automatic. The car that would often fail to start on a freezing cold morning if you didn't get the choke setting just right and if you got that wrong, you ended with a flooded engine which you of course kept trying to start until the battery was flat Oh and if you happen to drop the clutch there was a fair chance of ending up with a broken back axle. Of course with the drivers seat position one size fits all. No heating in winter or cooling in summer. Brakes that might just stop you in an emergency Lights that barely lit up the road. Windscreens when hit with rock became opaque Cars with the cornering ability of a billy cart. Arrrhh the good old days, they don't make cars like that anymore. Cheers David
So true
-- Edited by Bryan on Sunday 11th of December 2016 09:57:39 PM
https://mr4x4.com.au/jeep-grand-cherokee-recall-fire-risk/
Gday...
The recall - https://www.productsafety.gov.au/recall/fca-australia-pty-ltd-2016-wk-jeep-grand-cherokee
Cheers - John
This is a shot of the last decent vehicle that Jeep built.
Over the yrs, they really have proven themselves. As a brand.... (A few are lucky?)
as about the biggest piece of rubbish on the roads.
Look nice enuff. But don't touch.
I remember a few yrs ago.
Mate owned a second hand car yard.
He was telling me the one car none ever took in (Unless it was nearly free)
was a Jeep of any model.
90% of the time, you were stuck with them till a mug came along.
My brother bought a new soft top version in Canada a few yrs ago.
5 yrs later, he sold for $3.750....
That was best price he could get. Eventually.
and it'd only run him to work and back in the city.Hard and soft top included.
JEEP takes the cake for the most recalls.
Interesting article
http://www.news.com.au/finance/business/manufacturing/why-there-is-a-record-number-of-car-safety-recalls-25-million-and-counting/news-story/78d643cd42b7e3cbf7c4ac020429f555
That looks suspiciously like Toyota..???
My GU cost me $460ish for a Key ring Sensor, and a fan belt tensioner
in it's life with me.
Towing a 6.5 mtr offroader.
Prev '91 GQ cost nothing but lotsa petrol with a trailer on back
Great truck, even with Petrol donk.
If this Isuzu is half as good as either.
I'll be more than wrapped with it.
Macka its a list of recalls so far for 2016. Makes some very interesting reading.
Tongue in cheek, so as not to start any flaming wars, but factual information
I shall put my hand up for this one
1969 Austin 1800 Mk II, towing a 12 foot (cub type) expandable ends caravan
1994 Ford Falcon EB (6 cylinder), towing a Viscount 17 foot caravan
If there had been any recalls, then no one had told me
BUT.
THEY are cars when cars WERE cars.
Mechanical...
Not all this electronic crap to make them both, more complex and more expensive.
to run and repair.
What I wouldn't give for a new GQ 4 ltr with Turbo.
or one of my early Squareline Fairlanes with 351 Windsor in there.
They'd tow anything anywhere and fully clockwork.
Run forever.
Best mechanical car I ever had for touring.
was my Audi 100 back in '71 in Sth Africaaa.
THAT. Was a SWEEEET car.
Nowadays. Coming out of VW FActory.
I wouldn't own one a day past it's warranty time out thank you.
Cars have gone backwards not forward.
They need to STOP.
Till electronic reliability with ALL of them catches up.
Mechanicals are basically fine.
The head had to be removed regularly given a decarb and valve grind
Tappets needed constant adjustment.
Points in the distributor needed regular adjustment or replacing.
Oil needed constant topping up
Oil needed changing every 1000 miles instead of every 10,000 miles.
25 to 30 miles to the gallon of petrol instead of 40 to 50 miles to a gallon diesel.
Overheating when the weather was hot whenever you encountered a long hill
Then remember the 2 speed automatic.
The car that would often fail to start on a freezing cold morning if you didn't get the choke setting just right and if you got that wrong, you ended with a flooded engine which you of course kept trying to start until the battery was flat
Oh and if you happen to drop the clutch there was a fair chance of ending up with a broken back axle.
Of course with the drivers seat position one size fits all.
No heating in winter or cooling in summer.
Brakes that might just stop you in an emergency
Lights that barely lit up the road.
Windscreens when hit with rock became opaque
Cars with the cornering ability of a billy cart.
Arrrhh the good old days, they don't make cars like that anymore.
Cheers
David
Yeah good post Dutchy the modern car ,like modern medicine makes our lives so much better ,in the good old days it was easier to fix your own vehicles and you needed too,who here would like to swap there modern tug for an eh Holden a gem of a car in its day But things have moved on for the better...
-- Edited by Bryan on Sunday 11th of December 2016 09:57:39 PM