Got to start thinking about a heater install again, winter is almost here !!. But checking out the van, I cannot see where it can be installed. Has anyone seen a heater installed under the van? In its own cabinet, ducting run along under the floor?.
I have no bench seats, or "U" lounge seats, under the bed is not a good option. probably angling towards gas, quieter and less of a smell. No fuel tank to install.
Landfall said
06:20 AM Nov 25, 2016
About to do it to our campervan.
You can purchase boxes for the heater unit to go in which also contain the necessary fitting for connections.
If you are drawing the air from outside as well you will need an external temperature sensor installed inside the van r as suggested to me, recirculate the cabin air for heating purposes. The combustion air should be drawn from outside.
Dieselheat in Tasmania sell the boxes and fittings to achieve the result you arelooking for and he has fitted quite a few. Very helpful with advice.
iana said
03:23 PM Nov 25, 2016
Thinking about all the junk I have under there, plus a dirty big chassis that's going to get in the way, I am now looking at installing in a space under the oven that has a drop down door. All things considered, the gas heater looks the way to go.
Delta18 said
06:30 PM Nov 25, 2016
In our previous van I fitted a diesel heater in the 10 - 12" high cupboard under the fridge
Hey Jim said
10:54 PM Nov 25, 2016
iana wrote:
Thinking about all the junk I have under there, plus a dirty big chassis that's going to get in the way, I am now looking at installing in a space under the oven that has a drop down door. All things considered, the gas heater looks the way to go.
Hi Ian,
You are bit slow off the mark there. Why has it taken you so long to get off your butt.
Secondly, what in gods name Have you got, under that bed that stops you from doing the install there.
We have 3 x45lt storage bins with lids, 1 Baby Q Plus our planner diesel heater under us.
All you need to do is, unload half you wife's stuff. And all your problems solved.
PS: I forgot to say I also relocated the van's jack under as well, at the foot of the bed to balance the van @ 5.6kg. Every gram counts.
Regards Jim
-- Edited by Hey Jim on Friday 25th of November 2016 10:59:22 PM
iana said
07:49 AM Nov 26, 2016
What have I been doing, apart from doing jobs to get the house on the market, doing up the boat to get it on the market, plus I'm still w--king 5 days a week, nothing really.
Been a bit cash strapped, but have a buyer for the boat, he's picking it up to day. With a little money in the bank we can start thinking about these caravan jobs again.
We don't have that much room under the bed. We have a slide out (bed), the structure of that takes up room, plus the two house batteries. The space left is going to be taken up by our coffee machine!, coffee grinder, an air fryer oven, and so on. Yeah I know, but the wife is not negotiable here.
One of my first jobs is to get the canopy fixed to the ute, couple up everything and put the rig over a weigh bridge. Then I will know how close to the wind we are sailing.
But you are right, I really have to get on top of some of the jobs planned on the van, pity we have to rebuild it again. Lack of money really put the brakes on projects.
JayDee said
12:14 PM Nov 26, 2016
What ever decision you make, ensure that you have plenty of work space / area around where you wish to finally install the unit.
jay&Dee
blissonwheels said
04:38 PM Dec 3, 2016
Gooday,
Just be careful about running the ducting underneath the Caravan or Camper as it will drastically reduce the efficiency of your heater.
I tried it, we have our Diesel Webasto installed in the bottom of the Vanity Cupboard at the rear of our 21 ft Caravan, ran two outlets, one underneath up through the floor and out of a small pantry facing the shower, approximately 800mm, outlet with louvre to open or close, OK.
Then ran a second piece of duct off a junction below floor and came up under the bed, (approximately 5-6 metre run), the outlet then faced down the centre of the caravan to the rear from the bottom of the bed base. It was a result that left a lot to be desired, due to heat loss. after 1 winter I then pulled this ducting off and fed it through a couple of lengths of foam insulation that is used to insulate refrigeration piping. Result, very little improvement on a cold night.
After a couple of winters and tired of suffering, I set about fitting a T-piece just where the hot air exited the heater, connected the outlet ducting facing towards the shower to one original outlet and then fitted a short piece of ducting and an outlet coming out of one of the Vanity Cupboard Doors and facing straight down the centre of the caravan towards the bed, result, Absolute Magic!!.
Moral of the story try to avoid running heater ducting, externally if at all possible, if you would like to keep warm in cold weather.
Anybody in need of approximately a 6 Metre length of ducting in very good order I have some for sale, please contact me directly.
iana said
09:12 PM Dec 3, 2016
Hi "Bliss On Wheels", all what you say makes sense. I have gone off the gas unit and now considering diesel, couple of factors, if something goes wrong with the gas unit, I can't legally fix it, and it has been mentioned about the regulators waxing up, and two they produce carbon monoxide. An interesting point about the gas units, is the limit in the length of inlet & exhaust lines, very short. The diesel units don't appear to have the restrictions the gas units have.
And as "Hey Jim" has said what about under the bed. Still looking.
Hey Jim said
09:59 PM Dec 3, 2016
iana wrote:
Hi "Bliss On Wheels", all what you say makes sense. I have gone off the gas unit and now considering diesel, couple of factors, if something goes wrong with the gas unit, I can't legally fix it, and it has been mentioned about the regulators waxing up, and two they produce carbon monoxide. An interesting point about the gas units, is the limit in the length of inlet & exhaust lines, very short. The diesel units don't appear to have the restrictions the gas units have. And as "Hey Jim" has said what about under the bed. Still looking.
Come on Ian, You can do it old boy. Your wife well love you forever more. Get your self a Planner heater. A straight forward install.
If you go back to( I implanted my diesel heater) and parked the fuel tank on the wall of the front boot.
If you hurry,the wife will remember you at Xmas.
Jim
mr glassies said
12:33 PM Dec 4, 2016
When you do the instillation make sure the inlet and outlet for the burner are more than 1500 mills away from the gas regulator it's the law
Got to start thinking about a heater install again, winter is almost here !!. But checking out the van, I cannot see where it can be installed. Has anyone seen a heater installed under the van? In its own cabinet, ducting run along under the floor?.
I have no bench seats, or "U" lounge seats, under the bed is not a good option. probably angling towards gas, quieter and less of a smell. No fuel tank to install.
About to do it to our campervan.
You can purchase boxes for the heater unit to go in which also contain the necessary fitting for connections.
If you are drawing the air from outside as well you will need an external temperature sensor installed inside the van r as suggested to me, recirculate the cabin air for heating purposes. The combustion air should be drawn from outside.
Dieselheat in Tasmania sell the boxes and fittings to achieve the result you arelooking for and he has fitted quite a few. Very helpful with advice.
In our previous van I fitted a diesel heater in the 10 - 12" high cupboard under the fridge
Hi Ian,
You are bit slow off the mark there. Why has it taken you so long to get off your butt.
Secondly, what in gods name Have you got, under that bed that stops you from doing the install there.
We have 3 x45lt storage bins with lids, 1 Baby Q Plus our planner diesel heater under us.
All you need to do is, unload half you wife's stuff. And all your problems solved.
PS: I forgot to say I also relocated the van's jack under as well, at the foot of the bed to balance the van @ 5.6kg. Every gram counts.
Regards Jim
-- Edited by Hey Jim on Friday 25th of November 2016 10:59:22 PM
Been a bit cash strapped, but have a buyer for the boat, he's picking it up to day. With a little money in the bank we can start thinking about these caravan jobs again.
We don't have that much room under the bed. We have a slide out (bed), the structure of that takes up room, plus the two house batteries. The space left is going to be taken up by our coffee machine!, coffee grinder, an air fryer oven, and so on. Yeah I know, but the wife is not negotiable here.
One of my first jobs is to get the canopy fixed to the ute, couple up everything and put the rig over a weigh bridge. Then I will know how close to the wind we are sailing.
But you are right, I really have to get on top of some of the jobs planned on the van, pity we have to rebuild it again. Lack of money really put the brakes on projects.
What ever decision you make, ensure that you have plenty of work space / area around where you wish to finally install the unit.
jay&Dee
Gooday,
Just be careful about running the ducting underneath the Caravan or Camper as it will drastically reduce the efficiency of your heater.
I tried it, we have our Diesel Webasto installed in the bottom of the Vanity Cupboard at the rear of our 21 ft Caravan, ran two outlets, one underneath up through the floor and out of a small pantry facing the shower, approximately 800mm, outlet with louvre to open or close, OK.
Then ran a second piece of duct off a junction below floor and came up under the bed, (approximately 5-6 metre run), the outlet then faced down the centre of the caravan to the rear from the bottom of the bed base. It was a result that left a lot to be desired, due to heat loss. after 1 winter I then pulled this ducting off and fed it through a couple of lengths of foam insulation that is used to insulate refrigeration piping. Result, very little improvement on a cold night.
After a couple of winters and tired of suffering, I set about fitting a T-piece just where the hot air exited the heater, connected the outlet ducting facing towards the shower to one original outlet and then fitted a short piece of ducting and an outlet coming out of one of the Vanity Cupboard Doors and facing straight down the centre of the caravan towards the bed, result, Absolute Magic!!.
Moral of the story try to avoid running heater ducting, externally if at all possible, if you would like to keep warm in cold weather.
Anybody in need of approximately a 6 Metre length of ducting in very good order I have some for sale, please contact me directly.
And as "Hey Jim" has said what about under the bed. Still looking.
Come on Ian, You can do it old boy. Your wife well love you forever more. Get your self a Planner heater. A straight forward install.
If you go back to( I implanted my diesel heater) and parked the fuel tank on the wall of the front boot.
If you hurry,the wife will remember you at Xmas.
Jim
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