We are ready to do our bit. We want to clean up as we go. We are sick of looking at other campers rubbish, left behind in the spots we like to stay in over night. ( free camps) and place in 60lt bin bags so can be collected by main roads in each state.
If we x 2, both of us do a 10 minute walk around at each site. We know we will have done our bit.
We want some imput on selecting which are the better grabers to buy./ pros and cons. have looked on Flea Bay, and found around 10 sellers.
Have you brought some and how effective are they.
Jim & Lambie
Tony Bev said
02:37 AM Nov 15, 2016
Hello Jim
The pickup stick on the right is a brother to one I purchased in Stanthorpe QLD in March 2014 I used the original pickup stick, until I tried to toss a half inner tube (full of dirt) into a bin, near Carnarvon WA in June 2016, so the original had picked up a bit of rubbish I could not buy another in Carnarvon, for love or money
I purchased the one on the right, in the picture, in Geraldton (Red Dot or similar type store) for $5
The one on the left I received as a gift from a friend, who heard me (jokingly) complain that the Quality Assurance men in Stanthorpe in 2014, must have been sleeping on the job, after I had broken the original $4 pickup stick
The pickup stick on the left was recently on sale for about $11 in Kmart Bunbury WA In my opinion the Kmart one (left of the picture, with a proper handle), is superior to the Red Dot one.
But the Red Dot one lasted until someone, (whose name I shall not mention, on the grounds that I would be silly to dob myself in, a second time), broke it using brute force and determination
I carry both of them with me, and if I find someone who really, really, needs one. I shall give them the el-cheapo Red Dot one
My theory is that when people see me picking up rubbish, it may jot their memory on how to do it
I have only ever had a few smarties, ask me why I pick up someone else rubbish. My stock answer is that I only look like a pig, which does not mean that I have to live like one
In all honesty, I pick up the rubbish for exercise, rather than walk around the camp aimlessly, just as I use the keyboard as exercise for my fingers
I have used two different models from ALDI first one was great but second just usable. A genteman told me he buys from Bunnings as he found one of their models the best around. Put a 10 cent piece on the floor and try to pick it up, if it is easy and comfortable to use the buy it.
I now look for comfort of use so not putting too much strain on the hands. Use it in the workshop, to retreive dropped objects in my aquaponic system and picking up sticks around the property to name a few tasks.
Possum3 said
08:49 AM Nov 15, 2016
We use old BBQ tongs - steel ones about 18 inches long - always on drawbar - can also use them for adjusting coals in fires.
Hey Jim said
09:26 AM Nov 15, 2016
Hi Tony and everyone,
Thankyou all for your efforts, I do like the Kmart version. I think we will check them all first as Lambie likes to get out of the house for an hour or more every day.
Think all RV's should be made, to come equipped as standard with them. Just as a Fire Extinguisher.
Everyone will see the benefits all round.
Jim & Lambie
-- Edited by Hey Jim on Tuesday 15th of November 2016 08:02:38 PM
Dav4Cris said
08:01 PM Nov 15, 2016
We got a set of folding ones from Ebay, not the best, next set we got from Kmart and they where good until I ran over them. Got a Aldi set a couple months ago, boss likes them, can pick up biro tops from the carpet. We also travel with a few old Chaff bags which we use to cleanup around campsites, take to tip or local Information Centre and empty them. I usually ask the people in the Info centre where I can empty this rubbish, some have told me to go around the back and there is a dumpster there to use. Others have said just use the bins out the front.
Phil C said
02:17 PM Nov 16, 2016
Well done folks.
You know if more people got onto doing a 10 minute clean up at camps we would be looking good.
On our last Perth trip we over nighted at a free camp call Baxter (near Fraser Range). It was filthy when we arrived, I had to empty the loo in the dump point and it was also filthy, how can a normal person miss a 300mm hole?? looked like someone had dropped the tweeds and placed a fresh one at the side, mind you the toilets were within 20 paces.
It was there I decided to start a clean up. I went to the other caravans (about 10) and asked them to spend 10 mins with me to do a clean up, well the response was not what I expected from nomads. I was impolitely told where to go and what to do when I arrived. Used grey water to clean the dump point, and picked up papers etc around MY caravan and toward the front of the camp.
I used the pickup bizzo similar to Tony Bev idea. Im not saying this to be a hero, BUT if we all took some care of our free camps councils would not close them down. Rant over
Tony Bev said
03:06 PM Nov 16, 2016
Phil C wrote:
Well done folks.
You know if more people got onto doing a 10 minute clean up at camps we would be looking good.
On our last Perth trip we over nighted at a free camp call Baxter (near Fraser Range). It was filthy when we arrived, I had to empty the loo in the dump point and it was also filthy, how can a normal person miss a 300mm hole?? looked like someone had dropped the tweeds and placed a fresh one at the side, mind you the toilets were within 20 paces.
It was there I decided to start a clean up. I went to the other caravans (about 10) and asked them to spend 10 mins with me to do a clean up, well the response was not what I expected from nomads. I was impolitely told where to go and what to do when I arrived. Used grey water to clean the dump point, and picked up papers etc around MY caravan and toward the front of the camp.
I used the pickup bizzo similar to Tony Bev idea. Im not saying this to be a hero, BUT if we all took some care of our free camps councils would not close them down. Rant over
When I know (from the camp books), that the next dump point I am going to use has no water available, I keep about a bucketful of water, in the grey water tank, for cleaning the dump point after I use it.
I have only been travelling on and off for a few years, so I am not a seasoned traveller
But...
I am not sure if it is wishful thinking on my part, or if the message is getting through.
Here is my report of about the last three months
Bodallin Pioneers Park #232 WA in Camp 8 book - small amount of rubbish, not worth writing home about
Mambung Station Stay and B&B #306 WA in Camp 8 book - 500 people at music festival, with about 85/90% of grey nomad age - no rubbish
Greenbushes Rest Area #100 WA in Camp 8 book - no rubbish
Bridgetown blues music festival - people wearing event organisers T shirts, picking up the very small amount of rubbish in the gutter of the road
Nannup WA new dump point and public toilet area - no rubbish
Warner Glen (Chapman Pool) #205 WA in Camp 8 book - no rubbish
I have been told, second hand so it is not confirmed, that the Nannup shire have stopped putting rubbish bins out on the highway parking bays, because too much town rubbish was being dumped I can only confirm that there are plenty of rubbish bins in the town itself, as my fish and chips box easily found a rubbish bin
As a side note I can recommend the fish from the local Nannup fish and chip shop, the chips were only so so
Hey Jim said
05:03 PM Nov 16, 2016
Hi Phil C,
Yep, some just don't get it. We dropped off our Cassette at Baxter on our return trip in October. We stopped over back towards Norseman 15km out on the left hand side of the Hwy. Dam trees blocked my sat dish signal after we had set up.Silly me. Its a pity some folks do things like this. Lots stop at Baxter because of the Dump Point. To many for us. We had one other couple that night.
Our spot was clean. The dunny paper is what gives us the Sh.....ts most. Dirty Mongols
Jim.
TheHeaths said
05:52 PM Nov 16, 2016
We have also used Baxter on our past 2 trips across the Nullarbor.
Kathy tried a clean up on this last trip in September, and became most disheartened, as the area was covered in the tissue streamers and general waste. After 15 minutes and making a big effort, she gave up, but the area near our caravan looked a lot better.
That said Phil, I feel your pain re the dump point. Last year the toilet was full to the brim, and this year, the dump point had been used and left a real mess. It wasn't the first one on the trip to look like it either. I get sick of cleaning up others dinners from the day before, but am now starting to expect it.
The response you got Phil doesn't surprise me. So many are of the opinion that they have no need to help. I walk each morning for 20 to 25 minutes, and while I was walking up and down the Baxter Rest Area, I watched an older camper, with a nice van and vehicle, empty his cassette on the ground behind his van. He didn't see me until he had the lid off and the cassette raised, and I just shook my head when he did look. Rather than confront him at the time, I passed his registration details on to the Main Road and Council, and they were following it up. I don't know if they were able to get him, but I do hope they tracked him down and at least sent him a nasty letter, to know that his "work" was seen and not appreciated.
It was more disappointing to me as he was also from SA.
Anyway, we can but do our bit, and hope it catches on.
Tony Bev said
07:07 PM Nov 16, 2016
I watched an older camper, with a nice van and vehicle, empty his cassette on the ground behind his van. He didn't see me until he had the lid off and the cassette raised, and I just shook my head when he did look. Rather than confront him at the time, I passed his registration details on to the Main Road and Council, and they were following it up. I don't know if they were able to get him, but I do hope they tracked him down and at least sent him a nasty letter, to know that his "work" was seen and not appreciated.
Name and shame, not because I am a member of the clean up police
But
The next person in that area, may have been someones grandson/daughter, who accidentally dropped a lolly on the ground, and then ate it
Hey Jim said
08:24 PM Nov 16, 2016
Pity his cars window was up. folks like this need to be educated.
Phil C said
11:43 AM Nov 20, 2016
Tony Bev wrote:
I watched an older camper, with a nice van and vehicle, empty his cassette on the ground behind his van. He didn't see me until he had the lid off and the cassette raised, and I just shook my head when he did look. Rather than confront him at the time, I passed his registration details on to the Main Road and Council, and they were following it up. I don't know if they were able to get him, but I do hope they tracked him down and at least sent him a nasty letter, to know that his "work" was seen and not appreciated.
Name and shame, not because I am a member of the clean up police
But
The next person in that area, may have been someones grandson/daughter, who accidentally dropped a lolly on the ground, and then ate it
YUK!!!!!
We had a bloke pull in beside us when we were at Port Lincoln on a recent trip to Perth and back. First thing he did was take all his junk out of the caravan and chuck it on the ground, then he stuffed some more junk in his ute!! His two dogs had left little gifts behind IN HIS VAN and he swept them out on the ground.
This dude was a PIG!!! His dogs yapped most times and the park manager had to ask him to check out. I saw the managers cleaning up his mess he left behind.
As far as emptying the toilet on the ground, well that goes beyond decency and common hygiene practices. A hole is all he needed to dig and there would be no mess for others to put up with (dont get me started on this one).
I can not understand why some folks want to sh1t on this beautiful country RANT OVER.
TheHeaths said
02:18 PM Nov 20, 2016
Just as an aside, I saw him move around the back of his van, but didn't see what he had in his hand, and had done, until I got level with him, after he had almost finished the process.
The dropped loll is a picture I didn't want, and as the grass was long, would probably not been found again.
Hi all,
We are ready to do our bit. We want to clean up as we go. We are sick of looking at other campers rubbish, left behind in the spots we like to stay in over night. ( free camps) and place in 60lt bin bags so can be collected by main roads in each state.
If we x 2, both of us do a 10 minute walk around at each site. We know we will have done our bit.
We want some imput on selecting which are the better grabers to buy./ pros and cons. have looked on Flea Bay, and found around 10 sellers.
Have you brought some and how effective are they.
Jim & Lambie
Hello Jim
The pickup stick on the right is a brother to one I purchased in Stanthorpe QLD in March 2014
I used the original pickup stick, until I tried to toss a half inner tube (full of dirt) into a bin, near Carnarvon WA in June 2016, so the original had picked up a bit of rubbish
I could not buy another in Carnarvon, for love or money
I purchased the one on the right, in the picture, in Geraldton (Red Dot or similar type store) for $5
The one on the left I received as a gift from a friend, who heard me (jokingly) complain that the Quality Assurance men in Stanthorpe in 2014, must have been sleeping on the job, after I had broken the original $4 pickup stick
The pickup stick on the left was recently on sale for about $11 in Kmart Bunbury WA
In my opinion the Kmart one (left of the picture, with a proper handle), is superior to the Red Dot one.
But the Red Dot one lasted until someone, (whose name I shall not mention, on the grounds that I would be silly to dob myself in, a second time), broke it using brute force and determination
I carry both of them with me, and if I find someone who really, really, needs one. I shall give them the el-cheapo Red Dot one
My theory is that when people see me picking up rubbish, it may jot their memory on how to do it
I have only ever had a few smarties, ask me why I pick up someone else rubbish. My stock answer is that I only look like a pig, which does not mean that I have to live like one
In all honesty, I pick up the rubbish for exercise, rather than walk around the camp aimlessly, just as I use the keyboard as exercise for my fingers
I now look for comfort of use so not putting too much strain on the hands. Use it in the workshop, to retreive dropped objects in my aquaponic system and picking up sticks around the property to name a few tasks.
Hi Tony and everyone,
Thankyou all for your efforts, I do like the Kmart version. I think we will check them all first as Lambie likes to get out of the house for an hour or more every day.
Think all RV's should be made, to come equipped as standard with them. Just as a Fire Extinguisher.
Everyone will see the benefits all round.
Jim & Lambie
-- Edited by Hey Jim on Tuesday 15th of November 2016 08:02:38 PM
You know if more people got onto doing a 10 minute clean up at camps we would be looking good.
On our last Perth trip we over nighted at a free camp call Baxter (near Fraser Range). It was filthy when we arrived, I had to empty the loo in the dump point and it was also filthy, how can a normal person miss a 300mm hole?? looked like someone had dropped the tweeds and placed a fresh one at the side, mind you the toilets were within 20 paces.
It was there I decided to start a clean up. I went to the other caravans (about 10) and asked them to spend 10 mins with me to do a clean up, well the response was not what I expected from nomads. I was impolitely told where to go and what to do when I arrived. Used grey water to clean the dump point, and picked up papers etc around MY caravan and toward the front of the camp.
I used the pickup bizzo similar to Tony Bev idea. Im not saying this to be a hero, BUT if we all took some care of our free camps councils would not close them down. Rant over
When I know (from the camp books), that the next dump point I am going to use has no water available, I keep about a bucketful of water, in the grey water tank, for cleaning the dump point after I use it.
I have only been travelling on and off for a few years, so I am not a seasoned traveller
But...
I am not sure if it is wishful thinking on my part, or if the message is getting through.
Here is my report of about the last three months
Bodallin Pioneers Park #232 WA in Camp 8 book - small amount of rubbish, not worth writing home about
Mambung Station Stay and B&B #306 WA in Camp 8 book - 500 people at music festival, with about 85/90% of grey nomad age - no rubbish
Greenbushes Rest Area #100 WA in Camp 8 book - no rubbish
Bridgetown blues music festival - people wearing event organisers T shirts, picking up the very small amount of rubbish in the gutter of the road
Nannup WA new dump point and public toilet area - no rubbish
Warner Glen (Chapman Pool) #205 WA in Camp 8 book - no rubbish
I have been told, second hand so it is not confirmed, that the Nannup shire have stopped putting rubbish bins out on the highway parking bays, because too much town rubbish was being dumped
I can only confirm that there are plenty of rubbish bins in the town itself, as my fish and chips box easily found a rubbish bin
As a side note I can recommend the fish from the local Nannup fish and chip shop, the chips were only so so
Hi Phil C,
Yep, some just don't get it. We dropped off our Cassette at Baxter on our return trip in October. We stopped over back towards Norseman 15km out on the left hand side of the Hwy. Dam trees blocked my sat dish signal after we had set up.Silly me. Its a pity some folks do things like this. Lots stop at Baxter because of the Dump Point. To many for us. We had one other couple that night.
Our spot was clean. The dunny paper is what gives us the Sh.....ts most. Dirty Mongols
Jim.
Kathy tried a clean up on this last trip in September, and became most disheartened, as the area was covered in the tissue streamers and general waste. After 15 minutes and making a big effort, she gave up, but the area near our caravan looked a lot better.
That said Phil, I feel your pain re the dump point. Last year the toilet was full to the brim, and this year, the dump point had been used and left a real mess. It wasn't the first one on the trip to look like it either. I get sick of cleaning up others dinners from the day before, but am now starting to expect it.
The response you got Phil doesn't surprise me. So many are of the opinion that they have no need to help. I walk each morning for 20 to 25 minutes, and while I was walking up and down the Baxter Rest Area, I watched an older camper, with a nice van and vehicle, empty his cassette on the ground behind his van. He didn't see me until he had the lid off and the cassette raised, and I just shook my head when he did look. Rather than confront him at the time, I passed his registration details on to the Main Road and Council, and they were following it up. I don't know if they were able to get him, but I do hope they tracked him down and at least sent him a nasty letter, to know that his "work" was seen and not appreciated.
It was more disappointing to me as he was also from SA.
Anyway, we can but do our bit, and hope it catches on.
Name and shame, not because I am a member of the clean up police
But
The next person in that area, may have been someones grandson/daughter, who accidentally dropped a lolly on the ground, and then ate it
Pity his cars window was up.
folks like this need to be educated.
YUK!!!!!
We had a bloke pull in beside us when we were at Port Lincoln on a recent trip to Perth and back. First thing he did was take all his junk out of the caravan and chuck it on the ground, then he stuffed some more junk in his ute!! His two dogs had left little gifts behind IN HIS VAN and he swept them out on the ground.
This dude was a PIG!!! His dogs yapped most times and the park manager had to ask him to check out. I saw the managers cleaning up his mess he left behind.
As far as emptying the toilet on the ground, well that goes beyond decency and common hygiene practices. A hole is all he needed to dig and there would be no mess for others to put up with (dont get me started on this one).
I can not understand why some folks want to sh1t on this beautiful country
RANT OVER.
The dropped loll is a picture I didn't want, and as the grass was long, would probably not been found again.