Isuspect that I am not the only forum member who wakes up to find my email folder full of junk mail and then a steady stream throughout the day.
I normally just go down the tick box's and delete them all but recently I have been attempting to remove myself from their email list and found its possible to remove my details from some of them but by no means all of them.
I find it interesting that womens clothing shops think that I am a cross dresser as I get heaps of emails from them and they are the hardest ones to get rid of.
I suspect that some ot the businesses I visit on line or sites I visit are selling my details to others which I thought was illegal.
How do other forum members deal with unwanted online junk mail.
Vince said
10:35 AM Nov 5, 2016
On my LIVE email on the top is a JUNK drop down menu and unwanted email get the
"Add Sender To Blocked Sender List"
they then go to junk mail and I delete all junk mail no matter what might be in there.
Cheers
Vince
Roving-Dutchy said
10:52 AM Nov 5, 2016
In most cases do not unsubscribe from junk mail as you may unwittingly load malware or a virus, the only safe way is to delete.
It depends if the junk mail is always coming from the same email address if so you can set up a filter for each email address to delete without you even seeing the email.
Each email programe is different as to how you go about this, with Gmail it is relatively easy.
Though in saying that just delete is the safest way you can unsubscribe from junk mail if you are absolutely certain where the mail has come from such as Coles, Woolworths, Jetstar, Telstra as examples, but just recently their has been fake emails inviting you to click on a link in the email to get free gift cards from some of these organisations and to do so will set you up with either malware or a virus.
The unsubscribe link is nearly always at the bottom of the email, but if you do use this link take great care.
If you check the email address of the sender of these emails it is usually fairly obvious that these aren't from a legitimate company.
Cheers
David
cjt55 said
12:48 PM Nov 5, 2016
I agree with David that when you unsubscribe from junk mail you create even more because the sender of the junk mail then knows that you are "active" in reading the junk mail and the problem then compounds.
From my experience in the past with this problem .. in the end I learnt from my mistakes and simply started all over again. I deleted/canceled the problem email address. I then opened a brand new email address (in my case with gmail) and kept this address strictly for private use only eg: only gave it to friends/relatives and organizations that I knew and trusted. I then opened a 2nd separate email address with another carrier such as hotmail or live.com or yahoo. I strictly use this 2nd email address for "public" everyday purposes eg: subscribing to motor clubs/caravan parks and whenever you need to physically provide your email address. I have even created a 3rd email address for even more suspect subscribing, especially online. End the end my "private" email address remains as clean as a whistle, the 2nd email address receives next to no junk mail and the 3rd email address collects nearly all the junk mail. I don't actuallly receive that much because I have learnt of the years who/when and where to provide my email address to. But having said that it also depends what sites you are looking at and if you really need or want to provide an email address.
As my 2nd email address hardly creates junk mail is important as it is also used frequently I have set it up to on-forward to my gmail address.
If in a few years time if the 2nd or 3rd email address become too bogged down again with junk mail then cancel/delete it and raise another new one. Your main "private" address will remain clean and won't need to be changed
Hope this helps.
-- Edited by cjt55 on Saturday 5th of November 2016 12:56:40 PM
-- Edited by cjt55 on Saturday 5th of November 2016 01:00:12 PM
KFT said
12:50 PM Nov 5, 2016
I go into my telstra account and report them as spam
telstra deals with that very well
Frank
the rocket said
01:38 PM Nov 5, 2016
Hi aussietraveller, gee that is annoying for you.
Sundance said
03:41 PM Nov 5, 2016
I don't even go to the trouble of unsubscribing. Delete the emails, then block them. Problem solved.
LLD said
04:20 PM Nov 5, 2016
Dud emails are driving me nuts at the moment. I'm getting a series of stuff from .top, .trade that say I'm subscribed to their newsletter. Probably getting 10 per day after my email filter chucks away probably twice as many again. PAYPAL issues, Telstra refunds, Apple & Microsoft are the most annoying ones. Unfortunately haven't yet devised a filter to let the real stuff thru and ditch the rest. Managed to ditch Viagra (and all the dud pharmacies) and Rayban sunnies. If someone sends me a viagra joke, I will not receive it.
Sometimes these spammers get onto an address format and the play on it. eg billsmith@bigpond.com. They then send out billsmith1, billsmith2, etc at all the email suppliers hotmail, gmail, yahoo etc. If the mail doesn't get rejected, then it's a real address. Then all the non-rejected ones are on-sold. You can create a crappy name but sometimes businesses (banks etc) don't like them.
I'm just in the process of trying to change my email everywhere I use it legit. It's not impossible, but it's a big job.
Roving-Dutchy said
04:27 PM Nov 5, 2016
If you haven't already got a Gmail address consider setting one up and use as you main email, Gmail has excellent filters and spam always ends up in your spam folder and it is very easy to delete on mass, after checking there are no genuine emails, but this only takes a few seconds.
I receive between 50 and 100 spam emails a day, I must be on multiple lists but my email address has now been out there since Gmail started.
Cheers
David
LLD said
05:03 PM Nov 5, 2016
I have gmail (due to having an android tablet & phone), bigpond (my internet provider) and hotmail (1996?). Thru my work, I was on a pilot scheme migrating from IBM PROFS to Microsoft products. Hotmail is the only one of my 3 addresses that I get rubbish sent to. Could be the 20 years that my hotmail address had been about.
Big Gorilla said
10:07 AM Nov 6, 2016
Be very careful of junk emails which maybe addressed to you personally, those with a zip file attached, telling you that it's an Invoice, details of a package you ordered, the list goes on and on. Under no circumstances open the zip file. If you do and you do online banking, you'll find your account cleaned out. These zip files contain a malware that monitors all your activities and sends off to the bad guys, your passwords etc. My email address starts ken@.... and I get several emails of this nature weekly. They are all addressed to ken and come from various overseas sources. Be careful out there .....
Aus-Kiwi said
10:24 AM Nov 6, 2016
Yep open a Yahoo or another type ? account for addresses to connect to wifi etc . Keep your own one close to home . I get home loan, death insurance , then anything I search on Google or eBay .. Strange that ??
Aus-Kiwi said
10:30 AM Nov 6, 2016
I have had to cancel my Telstra Mobile phone account due to third party billing me through them . I have rang the number to cancel . Still keep getting billed Even though Telstra know ! So one way to stop this . ?? It's not like a few $$ either . It's $200 or so extra a month !! This has been going on for 12 months or more !! Easy I paid the contract amount. Now they have disconnected my account !! No big deal !! Telstra are PIMPS for bodgy overseas companies !!
LLD said
11:00 AM Nov 6, 2016
Aus-Kiwi wrote:
I have had to cancel my Telstra Mobile phone account due to third party billing me through them . I have rang the number to cancel . Still keep getting billed Even though Telstra know ! So one way to stop this . ?? It's not like a few $$ either . It's $200 or so extra a month !! This has been going on for 12 months or more !! Easy I paid the contract amount. Now they have disconnected my account !! No big deal !! Telstra are PIMPS for bodgy overseas companies !!
I started a file about 12 months ago documenting what I reckon was leaks by Telstra employees. Trouble is I wrote to the Telco Ombudsman who just sent me back to Telstra. I had all this evidence that Telstra was the issue and the Ombudsman was sending me back to Telstra. The worst one was when just after I had an abusive call from someone pretending to be Telstra, my phone service was cut. On making enquiries, I was reconnected but was informed that only someone at a high level tech position could cancel my service. When I asked further and implied that there were people within Telstra who were part of the scam schemes, I was quickly cut off. Now pursuing this and other issues that indicated Telstra (or overseas contractors) were part of the Telstra scams. Mail back & forth between Telstra, Ombudsman and myself is not going well.
I had a trace put on my landline last year for a few months to track some of the nuisance calls as I was able to prove that they were coming in in huge numbers. Whilst the trace was on, I never got one nuisance call. The day after the trace was turned off, the calls started coming again.
The other scam I got was a SMS sending me a "daily joke". It was a $6 call that if I ignored to my detriment. The jokes kept coming and I kept getting billed $6 until I finally "unsubscribed". Didn't know what was going on until my pre-paid was cleaned out. Luckily I wasn't on a plan. Has a devil of a time from both Optus and the company sending me this stuff to get my money back and find out how I got subscribed in the first place.
aussietraveller said
01:32 PM Nov 6, 2016
Its obvious I am not the only one suffering with bulk marketing emails, as usual there is some very helpful information from forum members which I will implement and hopefully reduce the amount of junk emails that i get on a daily basis.
Thanks heaps
Tony Bev said
04:16 PM Nov 6, 2016
I use gmail for anything that I think, may send junk mail back to me
I had to join facebook to get the free Windows 10, so I joined with a gmail address
Half of my spam box is now filled with Facebook messages, telling me that I do not know how many friends I have The spam box emails are deleted every 30 days, so the only thing which changes are the dates I received them
As a side note, in my opinion so I could be wrong, I personally think that Windows 10, would not have been worth buying, if it had not been free, as Windows 7 was working satisfactory
briche said
04:30 PM Nov 6, 2016
We went through a process of unsubscribing everything that we did not know about, not interested in or just plane stupid And for a while things settled down. Then slowly over a space of about 2 months it all started again. We went through the same process again with the same result and guess what it's happening again. So now we just do it differently , if I don't know them, that are not family or look in anyway a bit sus they just get flicked to the junk folder.
at the end of every week the junk folder get cleared out and guess what over the past 2 or 3 months I would say that our junk mail has reduced to say 50% of what it used to be, that makes us happy to say the least. I work on the basis that if it's legit they will send it again and then I will think about it.
works for us
briche
LLD said
04:55 PM Nov 6, 2016
I am on Facebook with a silly name that no-one bothers me with. When I was under my real name, I just got too much "I wanna be your friend". Also I've restricted a lot of stuff as well. I'm only on Facebook for a few games plus some private forums.
Slightly off-topic, I get a lot of no-caller-id phone calls all of which are duds. I'm on NBN and NBN is not as good as the old system as filtering out unwanted numbers. Someone suggested I put in 8 or 12 zeros in my phonebook then set up that number as a reject. I've tried to follow it up but found nothing. Anyone seen that?
oldbloke said
05:38 PM Nov 6, 2016
From wikipedea.
According to a Cyberoam report in 2014, there are an average of 54 billion spam messages sent every day.
LLD said
08:48 AM Nov 7, 2016
oldbloke wrote:
From wikipedea.
According to a Cyberoam report in 2014, there are an average of 54 billion spam messages sent every day.
World population is 7.5 billion. That's 7.2 spam messages per person. Are you getting your share? I am.
Tony Bev said
10:03 PM Nov 7, 2016
LLD wrote:
oldbloke wrote:
From wikipedea.
According to a Cyberoam report in 2014, there are an average of 54 billion spam messages sent every day.
World population is 7.5 billion. That's 7.2 spam messages per person. Are you getting your share? I am.
Tongue in cheek
Bugger, why is it always me who misses out on everything
I only have 45 in the spam box for the last thirty days, and 30 are from Facebook
It makes me feel unwanted, only receiving 1.5 spam messages a day
It is a good job that I do not complain, unless I am complaining
iana said
10:26 PM Nov 7, 2016
I can forward some to you if you want Tony. 10 a day and writing "un-scribe" to them will certainly free up the fingers.
Ian.
Tony Bev said
10:38 PM Nov 7, 2016
You are all heart Ian, thanks for that
LOL, and nearly fell off my seat
Santa said
10:45 AM Nov 8, 2016
I've been using email virtually from the start, and still use the same Telstra email service and account we kicked off with with, spam rates are negligible, might receive 2 or three a week.
Unsubscribing is a poor idea, A the unsubscribe link its self may well contain malicious code (which means you now have an infected PC, and B it confirms to the sender that your email address is valid and not only will they keep using it, they will also share it with others and you spam load will increase even more.
Avoid as many Google based products as possible, i.e. Gmai, Google search, Google news, Youtube etc, they are very intrusive and collect all sorts of tracking information.
Good browsing habits and a sound knowledge of online/email security will keep most of the spam at bay.
-- Edited by Santa on Tuesday 8th of November 2016 10:46:43 AM
LLD said
03:17 PM Nov 8, 2016
I'm starting to believe that unsubscribing is useless, in fact probably dangerous as Santa noted. However, this will not confirm your address is real as if it's not real the spammer gets a reply from the "postmaster" saying an address is invalid.
I have set all my Google products (incl. android devices) to max security and none my rubbish is coming from google. I have a gmail address for all my google stuff and never get any spam to "gmail". It all comes thru "hotmail". My gmail address is not constructed in a guessable way like my hotmail address (as I noted above).
Isuspect that I am not the only forum member who wakes up to find my email folder full of junk mail and then a steady stream throughout the day.
I normally just go down the tick box's and delete them all but recently I have been attempting to remove myself from their email list and found its possible to remove my details from some of them but by no means all of them.
I find it interesting that womens clothing shops think that I am a cross dresser as I get heaps of emails from them and they are the hardest ones to get rid of.
I suspect that some ot the businesses I visit on line or sites I visit are selling my details to others which I thought was illegal.
How do other forum members deal with unwanted online junk mail.
"Add Sender To Blocked Sender List"
they then go to junk mail and I delete all junk mail no matter what might be in there.
Cheers
Vince
It depends if the junk mail is always coming from the same email address if so you can set up a filter for each email address to delete without you even seeing the email.
Each email programe is different as to how you go about this, with Gmail it is relatively easy.
Though in saying that just delete is the safest way you can unsubscribe from junk mail if you are absolutely certain where the mail has come from such as Coles, Woolworths, Jetstar, Telstra as examples, but just recently their has been fake emails inviting you to click on a link in the email to get free gift cards from some of these organisations and to do so will set you up with either malware or a virus.
The unsubscribe link is nearly always at the bottom of the email, but if you do use this link take great care.
If you check the email address of the sender of these emails it is usually fairly obvious that these aren't from a legitimate company.
Cheers
David
I agree with David that when you unsubscribe from junk mail you create even more because the sender of the junk mail then knows that you are "active" in reading the junk mail and the problem then compounds.
From my experience in the past with this problem .. in the end I learnt from my mistakes and simply started all over again. I deleted/canceled the problem email address. I then opened a brand new email address (in my case with gmail) and kept this address strictly for private use only eg: only gave it to friends/relatives and organizations that I knew and trusted. I then opened a 2nd separate email address with another carrier such as hotmail or live.com or yahoo. I strictly use this 2nd email address for "public" everyday purposes eg: subscribing to motor clubs/caravan parks and whenever you need to physically provide your email address. I have even created a 3rd email address for even more suspect subscribing, especially online. End the end my "private" email address remains as clean as a whistle, the 2nd email address receives next to no junk mail and the 3rd email address collects nearly all the junk mail. I don't actuallly receive that much because I have learnt of the years who/when and where to provide my email address to. But having said that it also depends what sites you are looking at and if you really need or want to provide an email address.
As my 2nd email address hardly creates junk mail is important as it is also used frequently I have set it up to on-forward to my gmail address.
If in a few years time if the 2nd or 3rd email address become too bogged down again with junk mail then cancel/delete it and raise another new one. Your main "private" address will remain clean and won't need to be changed
Hope this helps.
-- Edited by cjt55 on Saturday 5th of November 2016 12:56:40 PM
-- Edited by cjt55 on Saturday 5th of November 2016 01:00:12 PM
telstra deals with that very well
Frank
Hi aussietraveller, gee that is annoying for you.
I don't even go to the trouble of unsubscribing. Delete the emails, then block them. Problem solved.
Sometimes these spammers get onto an address format and the play on it. eg billsmith@bigpond.com. They then send out billsmith1, billsmith2, etc at all the email suppliers hotmail, gmail, yahoo etc. If the mail doesn't get rejected, then it's a real address. Then all the non-rejected ones are on-sold. You can create a crappy name but sometimes businesses (banks etc) don't like them.
I'm just in the process of trying to change my email everywhere I use it legit. It's not impossible, but it's a big job.
I receive between 50 and 100 spam emails a day, I must be on multiple lists but my email address has now been out there since Gmail started.
Cheers
David
Be very careful of junk emails which maybe addressed to you personally, those with a zip file attached, telling you that it's an Invoice, details of a package you ordered, the list goes on and on. Under no circumstances open the zip file. If you do and you do online banking, you'll find your account cleaned out. These zip files contain a malware that monitors all your activities and sends off to the bad guys, your passwords etc. My email address starts ken@.... and I get several emails of this nature weekly. They are all addressed to ken and come from various overseas sources. Be careful out there .....
I started a file about 12 months ago documenting what I reckon was leaks by Telstra employees. Trouble is I wrote to the Telco Ombudsman who just sent me back to Telstra. I had all this evidence that Telstra was the issue and the Ombudsman was sending me back to Telstra. The worst one was when just after I had an abusive call from someone pretending to be Telstra, my phone service was cut. On making enquiries, I was reconnected but was informed that only someone at a high level tech position could cancel my service. When I asked further and implied that there were people within Telstra who were part of the scam schemes, I was quickly cut off. Now pursuing this and other issues that indicated Telstra (or overseas contractors) were part of the Telstra scams. Mail back & forth between Telstra, Ombudsman and myself is not going well.
I had a trace put on my landline last year for a few months to track some of the nuisance calls as I was able to prove that they were coming in in huge numbers. Whilst the trace was on, I never got one nuisance call. The day after the trace was turned off, the calls started coming again.
The other scam I got was a SMS sending me a "daily joke". It was a $6 call that if I ignored to my detriment. The jokes kept coming and I kept getting billed $6 until I finally "unsubscribed". Didn't know what was going on until my pre-paid was cleaned out. Luckily I wasn't on a plan. Has a devil of a time from both Optus and the company sending me this stuff to get my money back and find out how I got subscribed in the first place.
Thanks heaps
I use gmail for anything that I think, may send junk mail back to me
I had to join facebook to get the free Windows 10, so I joined with a gmail address
Half of my spam box is now filled with Facebook messages, telling me that I do not know how many friends I have
The spam box emails are deleted every 30 days, so the only thing which changes are the dates I received them
As a side note, in my opinion so I could be wrong, I personally think that Windows 10, would not have been worth buying, if it had not been free, as Windows 7 was working satisfactory
We went through a process of unsubscribing everything that we did not know about, not interested in or just plane stupid And for a while things settled down. Then slowly over a space of about 2 months it all started again. We went through the same process again with the same result and guess what it's happening again. So now we just do it differently , if I don't know them, that are not family or look in anyway a bit sus they just get flicked to the junk folder.
at the end of every week the junk folder get cleared out and guess what over the past 2 or 3 months I would say that our junk mail has reduced to say 50% of what it used to be, that makes us happy to say the least. I work on the basis that if it's legit they will send it again and then I will think about it.
works for us
briche
Slightly off-topic, I get a lot of no-caller-id phone calls all of which are duds. I'm on NBN and NBN is not as good as the old system as filtering out unwanted numbers. Someone suggested I put in 8 or 12 zeros in my phonebook then set up that number as a reject. I've tried to follow it up but found nothing. Anyone seen that?
From wikipedea.
According to a Cyberoam report in 2014, there are an average of 54 billion spam messages sent every day.
World population is 7.5 billion. That's 7.2 spam messages per person. Are you getting your share?
I am.
Tongue in cheek
Bugger, why is it always me who misses out on everything
I only have 45 in the spam box for the last thirty days, and 30 are from Facebook
It makes me feel unwanted, only receiving 1.5 spam messages a day
It is a good job that I do not complain, unless I am complaining
Ian.
You are all heart Ian, thanks for that
LOL, and nearly fell off my seat
I've been using email virtually from the start, and still use the same Telstra email service and account we kicked off with with, spam rates are negligible, might receive 2 or three a week.
Unsubscribing is a poor idea, A the unsubscribe link its self may well contain malicious code (which means you now have an infected PC, and B it confirms to the sender that your email address is valid and not only will they keep using it, they will also share it with others and you spam load will increase even more.
Avoid as many Google based products as possible, i.e. Gmai, Google search, Google news, Youtube etc, they are very intrusive and collect all sorts of tracking information.
Good browsing habits and a sound knowledge of online/email security will keep most of the spam at bay.
-- Edited by Santa on Tuesday 8th of November 2016 10:46:43 AM
I have set all my Google products (incl. android devices) to max security and none my rubbish is coming from google. I have a gmail address for all my google stuff and never get any spam to "gmail". It all comes thru "hotmail". My gmail address is not constructed in a guessable way like my hotmail address (as I noted above).