On a separate thread, a question was asked about a No Camping sign at a particular rest area on the Pacific Hwy, NSW.
That question, and the ensuing replies, highlighted one of the shortcomings of forums.
There are just so many posts and replies that information quickly gets buried. Those new to the site - or who visit infrequently - can very easily miss the information.
Some years ago, when these No Camping signs were first installed, flurries of threads appeared on many 'caravanning/travelling' forums.
This is an emailed reply from Roads and Maritime Services, NSW to an email query sent for clarification of the installation of No Camping signs along various places on the Pacific Hwy. It was received 24 October 2014.
Thank you for your correspondence to Roads and Maritime Services regarding rest areas.
Please be advised that driver fatigue is one of the three big killers on NSW roads and can be as dangerous as speeding or drink driving. Roads and Maritime Services is committed to providing rest areas along key routes in NSW to allow all motorists to take appropriate breaks and to avoid fatigue. All motorists recognising the signs of fatigue should rest accordingly.
The maximum permissible stay in a rest area is not specified, given that all motorists needs are different, with varying levels of fatigue, at varying times of night and day. Some may need to stop for a few hours until they are ready to continue their journey safely. Please note, rest areas are not designed to be camping grounds or caravan parks. Using rest areas for multiple overnight stays as part of a planned itinerary is not in keeping with their intended purpose and it reduces the availability of spaces for motorists needing a break before continuing on their journey. Those needing camping facilities for an extended stay are encouraged to look for camping areas or caravan parks in towns along the way.
Roads and Maritime is currently working to increase and improve the network of state-wide rest areas, including easy-to-understand signage, vendors to provide coffee and refreshments and improved facilities. We are also working to ensure that heavy vehicle drivers are catered for with designated heavy vehicle rest areas available for them to take obligatory fatigue breaks. In peak periods especially, holiday makers are encouraged to use rest areas that have designated parking for light and recreational vehicles.
Note that individual local councils not Roads and Maritime, monitor and enforce any restriction related to the duration of stay in a road side rest area.
Chris Christine Murray Regional Government Information Services Officer, Hunter Government Information Services | Strategy & Engagement T 02 4924 0204 M 0411 286 673
Roads and Maritime Services Level 1 59 Darby St Newcastle NSW 2300
This is also from the NRMA website from late last year -
It is fully conceded that a sign stating "No Camping" can be offputting. Those amongst us who feel we need (want) to comply with legal signage, would naturally move on and not spend the night "resting".
However, it is fairly clear (as thin(?) mud?) that if one stops at one of these sites along the Pacific Hwy in NSW in the very late afternoon/early evening, then an overnight 'restful' sleep is not frowned upon - nor would it attract the wrath of authorities and a subsequent lightening of one's wallet/purse.
Cheers - John
-- Edited by rockylizard on Sunday 30th of October 2016 08:09:37 AM
the rocket said
08:54 AM Oct 30, 2016
Hello rockylizard, thankyou so much For your informative reply.
macka17 said
11:38 AM Oct 30, 2016
As long as the p---s don't "camp" in Truck stops.
The numbers you see doing it are outrageous.
They should ALL be given a $500 parking ticket.
Rego's Identified by a permanent camera there.
Hey Rocky.
The ones that "plan" to do that are the ones you have to educate NOT to.
Eventually too many freeloaders will.
And consequently, there may not be an area for people that do. NEED a rest.
ME. I normally do my long legs overnight when most idiots off road.
But normally pull over around 4.30-5.30am.
Luckily though. except on very few occasions we go below Cania.
So it shouldn't bother us much.
I'm just saying.
Don't give the freeloaders/bums. more ideas.
they bad enuff as they are.
Fringe Dweller said
06:37 AM Oct 31, 2016
As I said in th other one , when I'm on my own , I "make a mile" to get where I'm going.
Like Macka . I will get there or close to where I'm going & have "my doughy".
"doughy" = when you push through th tiredness barrier , but when ya get doughy , ya know ya gotta stop.
Usually for me "a doughy" is an hour to an hour & a half .
When I go to Canberra , I leave Coffs at 4 or 5pm . Tea at Taree , through to Uncle Leo's to fuel , then down to
"my little spot" in Goulburn , NO I Don't park at the Shell . Wake at 6 go to Shell , get a snack & coffee , then
pedal on to Epic in Canberra . Finish at 6 Sun nite , go back to Leo's top off fuel , get Coffee & snack , pedal back
to Taree , wake up , top up fuel , have breakfast , pedal home.
Gday...
On a separate thread, a question was asked about a No Camping sign at a particular rest area on the Pacific Hwy, NSW.
That question, and the ensuing replies, highlighted one of the shortcomings of forums.
There are just so many posts and replies that information quickly gets buried. Those new to the site - or who visit infrequently - can very easily miss the information.
Some years ago, when these No Camping signs were first installed, flurries of threads appeared on many 'caravanning/travelling' forums.
This is an emailed reply from Roads and Maritime Services, NSW to an email query sent for clarification of the installation of No Camping signs along various places on the Pacific Hwy. It was received 24 October 2014.
Thank you for your correspondence to Roads and Maritime Services regarding rest areas.
Please be advised that driver fatigue is one of the three big killers on NSW roads and can be as dangerous as speeding or drink driving. Roads and Maritime Services is committed to providing rest areas along key routes in NSW to allow all motorists to take appropriate breaks and to avoid fatigue. All motorists recognising the signs of fatigue should rest accordingly.
The maximum permissible stay in a rest area is not specified, given that all motorists needs are different, with varying levels of fatigue, at varying times of night and day. Some may need to stop for a few hours until they are ready to continue their journey safely. Please note, rest areas are not designed to be camping grounds or caravan parks. Using rest areas for multiple overnight stays as part of a planned itinerary is not in keeping with their intended purpose and it reduces the availability of spaces for motorists needing a break before continuing on their journey. Those needing camping facilities for an extended stay are encouraged to look for camping areas or caravan parks in towns along the way.
Roads and Maritime is currently working to increase and improve the network of state-wide rest areas, including easy-to-understand signage, vendors to provide coffee and refreshments and improved facilities. We are also working to ensure that heavy vehicle drivers are catered for with designated heavy vehicle rest areas available for them to take obligatory fatigue breaks. In peak periods especially, holiday makers are encouraged to use rest areas that have designated parking for light and recreational vehicles.
Note that individual local councils not Roads and Maritime, monitor and enforce any restriction related to the duration of stay in a road side rest area.
To help to plan your rest stops go to the Roads and Maritime Interactive Rest Area Map at http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/usingroads/restareas/
I hope this has been of assistance.
Kind Regards
Chris
Christine Murray
Regional Government Information Services Officer, Hunter
Government Information Services | Strategy & Engagement
T 02 4924 0204 M 0411 286 673
www.rms.nsw.gov.au
Every journey matters
Roads and Maritime Services
Level 1 59 Darby St Newcastle NSW 2300
This is also from the NRMA website from late last year -
It is fully conceded that a sign stating "No Camping" can be offputting. Those amongst us who feel we need (want) to comply with legal signage, would naturally move on and not spend the night "resting".
However, it is fairly clear (as thin(?) mud?) that if one stops at one of these sites along the Pacific Hwy in NSW in the very late afternoon/early evening, then an overnight 'restful' sleep is not frowned upon - nor would it attract the wrath of authorities and a subsequent lightening of one's wallet/purse.
Cheers - John
-- Edited by rockylizard on Sunday 30th of October 2016 08:09:37 AM
Hello rockylizard, thankyou so much For your informative reply.
The numbers you see doing it are outrageous.
They should ALL be given a $500 parking ticket.
Rego's Identified by a permanent camera there.
Hey Rocky.
The ones that "plan" to do that are the ones you have to educate NOT to.
Eventually too many freeloaders will.
And consequently, there may not be an area for people that do. NEED a rest.
ME. I normally do my long legs overnight when most idiots off road.
But normally pull over around 4.30-5.30am.
Luckily though. except on very few occasions we go below Cania.
So it shouldn't bother us much.
I'm just saying.
Don't give the freeloaders/bums. more ideas.
they bad enuff as they are.
As I said in th other one , when I'm on my own , I "make a mile" to get where I'm going.
Like Macka . I will get there or close to where I'm going & have "my doughy".
"doughy" = when you push through th tiredness barrier , but when ya get doughy , ya know ya gotta stop.
Usually for me "a doughy" is an hour to an hour & a half .
When I go to Canberra , I leave Coffs at 4 or 5pm . Tea at Taree , through to Uncle Leo's to fuel , then down to
"my little spot" in Goulburn , NO I Don't park at the Shell . Wake at 6 go to Shell , get a snack & coffee , then
pedal on to Epic in Canberra . Finish at 6 Sun nite , go back to Leo's top off fuel , get Coffee & snack , pedal back
to Taree , wake up , top up fuel , have breakfast , pedal home.