Purchased some blue drinking water hose last year. Brand name (forgot brand) and not cheap. However it kinks something terrible. Kinks blow out when full of water but impossible to roll up on either a reel or in a bag without kinking again.
Recently I purchased a flat hose on a windup reel. Worst van accessory purchase ever. Hose split at the connections each end trying to clip it back into the reel, blistered and after the first use blew out so much would not all go back on the reel. After several weeks of use, the expansion increased in both directions and would not go back on the reel at all. Got my money back.
Off to the http://melbourneleisurefest.com.au/About this weekend and after anyone's thoughts / experiences on good hoses and what to avoid.
jules47 said
05:16 PM Oct 5, 2016
We have a good quality blue fresh water hose -it doesn't kink - but we don't roll it onto reel, we just roll it up by hand and tie it in two places - ok then.
Tony Bev said
05:37 PM Oct 5, 2016
Hello LLD
I am sure that there must be an art to rolling up a water hose
I had a white one which was as stiff as board to roll up, I gave it away to a younger friend who has stronger arms than me
I now use a blue one (from Bunnings) My secret is to lay it straight, after using, and then try to roll it up, as though you were trying to roll a barrel, but in the air. I then put it in a bag Sometimes it kinks, and sometimes it does not, but as you say, the next time I use it, the kink/s blow out
But... When I try to roll it by twisting it into a coil, it will always kink I did see something on uTube once, where a man was rolling a water hose like a barrel, but also placing it inside a bag, at the same time.
Hope that this info is helpful
macka17 said
05:44 PM Oct 5, 2016
Make like you coiling a mooring line on the deck.
In front of feet and dia of roll to suit yourself.
Easy. They just wrap a velcro tie round one side when finished.
Me. I bought a 150mtr of H/Duty water hose from an Industrial Agents 20, probably 25 yrs ago.
Still got around 80yds left and it still has NO taste from water.
Kept out of sun when not being used
and emptied completely after every use.
Brenda and Alan said
05:59 PM Oct 5, 2016
What we did with our very stiff blue 20 Mt water hose was to cut into three pieces and fit joiners to all ends. Lengths (1) 10 Mt (2) 6.7 Mt (3) 3.3 Mt. That way we use the appropriate length to do the job with inter-connects if required. Usually never need to use the 10 Mt piece and the smaller bits are easy to handle. Particularly good when filling water tank and your parked next to the tap.
Alan
Woody2 said
08:07 PM Oct 5, 2016
We use both white hose ,pain to roll up. About 12 mths ago while in the big green shed got a roll of good garden hose ,use it most off the time easy to roll and we have not tasted any difference in the water.
LLD said
08:11 PM Oct 5, 2016
I chopped my 20m of water hose into 10m, 6.5m & 3.5m. The 3.5 m coils up great. Have joined the 10m & 6.5m once. 6.5m is the most used as I have a filter and a bit of white hose that extends the 6.5m to about 8m.
Have chopped 15m x 30mm grey water hose into 10m & 5m that has been joined a few times (sullage & on garden beds). Join with a bit of bicycle tube. Also got a 2m (smaller diameter) if no sullage point and dumping in a bucket (and throwing away at some distance) or under van is preferred dump.
Have a 25m & 10m electrical. Used 25m a few times but never required both joined.
Usually have the 6.5m water, 5m grey and 10m electrical handy with the others buried deep in the bowels of the van.
All 3 cords are difficult but different to roll up. Have mastered all except the 10m & 6.5m water.
Just spotted the 10m camec curly-coil hose. Remember seeing a few people using this on a recent trip. Wonder if they are any good. Had a curly garden hose once and it was massively heavy (cannot remember what length). Only good if both ends were tethered which is what it will be on the van. camec.com/curly-coil-drinking-water-hose-10m.html
-- Edited by LLD on Wednesday 5th of October 2016 08:11:51 PM
Cupie said
11:41 PM Oct 5, 2016
I still have the water hose that I purchased 18 years ago.
It's never been rolled up.
Cut into 3 lengths & carried in conduits running under almost the full length of our 21'6" van.
Fittings allow me to use as many as necessary for the particular site.
I think that it was initially blue but is now mostly white.
I have replaced the 'O' rings on the connectors a few times and the brass fittings only once because the tiny white nylon 'fingers' wore down & high water pressure would cause the connection to blow apart.
Edit 2 .... Oops .... An observant reader might notice that the photo shows only two lengths of water hose & two sullage pipes. The third & rarely used length of water hose is in another conduit on the other side of the van. It is fitted with a garden spray nozzle. A third sullage back up pipe is stored in the chassis rail.
-- Edited by Cupie on Thursday 6th of October 2016 09:29:59 AM
-- Edited by Cupie on Thursday 6th of October 2016 12:56:39 PM
I have successfully used one of these for the last 5 years, I have 2 x 10mt lengths and join only when needed. I got it from evilbay but have seen them in caravan accessory places.
erad said
08:41 AM Oct 6, 2016
I too have cut my original length of the hard blue/white hose into two pieces. I have fitted a snap-on tail on one end of each hose, and the other end I have a 1/2" connector on one hose and a 3/4" connector on the other. This way I cover both types of tap connection. If I need the original length of hose, I join the snap-on fittings in the middle and then screw the appropriate sized tail on the other end and then fit it onto my filter as normal.
As for the drainage hose, I have two lengths of 30 mm (?) nylex hose. The main length is carried under the van through a 50 mm black irrigation hose which has been poked through the punchouts in the chassis members. All I do is simply pull the hose out from the 50 mm irrigation hose and lay it out to the drain. If I need a longer length, I have hee second piece rolled up in the van boot.
Stl said
12:56 PM Oct 6, 2016
Hi, Hard pale blue hose for me, but I have never heard a bad report on the food grade white so can't comment. One of the best things I ever bought from a camping shop and I think BCF sell them as well was a bag to put the hose and another one for the extension lead. Google Hose Bag Company. So easy I think she could even do it :)) that's with the hard food grade like a coiled spring when wound up hose.
Garden hoses when left in the sun and the soft blue food grade hose ( I think its pope) from bunnings, are granted easy to wind up but the plastic taste. If you have water running through them all the time no problem but if the water- hose heats up, if something tastes that bad it can't be good for you.
Bruce and Bev said
11:16 PM Oct 6, 2016
we have 2 white food grade (RV use type) hoses. Yes, they have always been difficult to roll up in the traditional way of rolling up a soft garden hose. The way to avoid kinks is for 2 people to roll it up. One rolls it up and the other allows it to twist around and not drag through the sand/dirt - that way you avoid kinks.
We then hold it in place with two lengths of double sided Velcro and stop dust from getting into it by joining the two ends with the @2 grey plastic joiners from Bunnings (obviously we leave the clip connectors to go on the tap ends when in use). We can control the diameter of the rolled up hose depending on where we are storing it, but allowing it to flip around and not kink - we can have the diameter as small as 12")
Tony Bev said
12:11 AM Oct 7, 2016
I carry a 20, 10, and 5 meter length food grade water hoses
The free drinking water tap in Mount Isa (near the dump point) was a fair way, away from the road when I went through in 2014
Dougwe said
08:25 AM Oct 7, 2016
Bruce and Bev wrote:
we have 2 white food grade (RV use type) hoses. Yes, they have always been difficult to roll up in the traditional way of rolling up a soft garden hose. The way to avoid kinks is for 2 people to roll it up. One rolls it up and the other allows it to twist around and not drag through the sand/dirt - that way you avoid kinks. We then hold it in place with two lengths of double sided Velcro and stop dust from getting into it by joining the two ends with the @2 grey plastic joiners from Bunnings (obviously we leave the clip connectors to go on the tap ends when in use). We can control the diameter of the rolled up hose depending on where we are storing it, but allowing it to flip around and not kink - we can have the diameter as small as 12")
Just throwing this into the mix
As a solo traveller I am set up to do everything by myself without help, as that is how I have to do it. Using the 10mt length I find it easy to roll up by myself and just put valcro around in 2 places. As I am rolling it up I D'kink as I go. I also run the hose through a 'chux' like cloth to wipe any water or dirt off. All works for me but sure your way works well for you Bruce and others.
Cupie said
11:14 AM Oct 7, 2016
Dougwe wrote:
Bruce and Bev wrote:
we have 2 white food grade (RV use type) hoses. Yes, they have always been difficult to roll up in the traditional way of rolling up a soft garden hose. The way to avoid kinks is for 2 people to roll it up. One rolls it up and the other allows it to twist around and not drag through the sand/dirt - that way you avoid kinks. We then hold it in place with two lengths of double sided Velcro and stop dust from getting into it by joining the two ends with the @2 grey plastic joiners from Bunnings (obviously we leave the clip connectors to go on the tap ends when in use). We can control the diameter of the rolled up hose depending on where we are storing it, but allowing it to flip around and not kink - we can have the diameter as small as 12")
Just throwing this into the mix
As a solo traveller I am set up to do everything by myself without help, as that is how I have to do it. Using the 10mt length I find it easy to roll up by myself and just put valcro around in 2 places. As I am rolling it up I D'kink as I go. I also run the hose through a 'chux' like cloth to wipe any water or dirt off. All works for me but sure your way works well for you Bruce and others.
Given my work background I have a latent Quality Process inclination. So when I put the water hose away I follow a standard process that goes like this .
Turn off the water
... Remove the click lock fitting from the tap , holding my palm against the fitting to deflect the spray
.. unscrew the fitting from the tap
... go to the van end & turn off the stop & unclip the hose
... Pull the hose to the rear of the van, giving it a flick so that it ends up lying parallel to the van
... Fit a joiner to the hose & put the cap on after wiping the end & 'O' ring clean of debris/dirt.
... Feed the hose into its pipe carrier under the van with left hand while running the host through a cleaning rag
... Do same for the second length of pipe
Result .. a clean hose in its carrier with the ends cleaned & sealed with no kinks or coil memory.
Papou said
12:10 PM Oct 7, 2016
Yep experienced all of the above. Purchased a hose bag for carrying your water hose.
Just rotate the bag as you roll the hose in .
Eazypeazy n no probs no more , my blue water hose was from the big green shed also.
PeterD said
04:02 PM Oct 7, 2016
I have the same rule for hoses and power leads. Drag them along the ground as you are rolling them up. That gets the kinks out of hoses and it allows you to get the right twist when coiling leads.
Bruce and Bev said
12:10 PM Oct 8, 2016
Hiya Peter. Agree wit you entirely about dragging across the ground, unless you are in WA particularly, when you will end up with a very sand coated lead or hose. Great in most Eastern States that actually have soil and grass or Tassie :)
Cupie said
12:59 PM Oct 8, 2016
Bruce and Bev wrote:
Hiya Peter. Agree with you entirely about dragging across the ground, unless you are in WA particularly, when you will end up with a very sand coated lead or hose. Great in most Eastern States that actually have soil and grass or Tassie :)
Not a good idea in the centre with red dirt either but the principle is sound.
Best off not to have to coil the hose or pipe.
If you have to, then the use of a rag in the hand to wipe it as you coil the hose, pipe or lead works.
Aus-Kiwi said
01:56 PM Oct 8, 2016
i try to UNWIND hose rather than pulling it out . Or you end up with twists in hose ..
dishlicker said
07:26 AM Oct 15, 2016
Hi there LLD i got a bit sick of wrestling with the hose when trying to roll it then found The Hose Bag $18 odd dollars best thing out got mine on ebay check em out
Purchased some blue drinking water hose last year. Brand name (forgot brand) and not cheap. However it kinks something terrible. Kinks blow out when full of water but impossible to roll up on either a reel or in a bag without kinking again.
Recently I purchased a flat hose on a windup reel. Worst van accessory purchase ever. Hose split at the connections each end trying to clip it back into the reel, blistered and after the first use blew out so much would not all go back on the reel. After several weeks of use, the expansion increased in both directions and would not go back on the reel at all. Got my money back.
Off to the http://melbourneleisurefest.com.au/About this weekend and after anyone's thoughts / experiences on good hoses and what to avoid.
Hello LLD
I am sure that there must be an art to rolling up a water hose
I had a white one which was as stiff as board to roll up, I gave it away to a younger friend who has stronger arms than me
I now use a blue one (from Bunnings)
My secret is to lay it straight, after using, and then try to roll it up, as though you were trying to roll a barrel, but in the air. I then put it in a bag
Sometimes it kinks, and sometimes it does not, but as you say, the next time I use it, the kink/s blow out
But...
When I try to roll it by twisting it into a coil, it will always kink
I did see something on uTube once, where a man was rolling a water hose like a barrel, but also placing it inside a bag, at the same time.
Hope that this info is helpful
In front of feet and dia of roll to suit yourself.
Easy. They just wrap a velcro tie round one side when finished.
Me. I bought a 150mtr of H/Duty water hose from an Industrial Agents 20, probably 25 yrs ago.
Still got around 80yds left and it still has NO taste from water.
Kept out of sun when not being used
and emptied completely after every use.
What we did with our very stiff blue 20 Mt water hose was to cut into three pieces and fit joiners to all ends. Lengths (1) 10 Mt (2) 6.7 Mt (3) 3.3 Mt. That way we use the appropriate length to do the job with inter-connects if required. Usually never need to use the 10 Mt piece and the smaller bits are easy to handle. Particularly good when filling water tank and your parked next to the tap.
Alan
I chopped my 20m of water hose into 10m, 6.5m & 3.5m. The 3.5 m coils up great. Have joined the 10m & 6.5m once. 6.5m is the most used as I have a filter and a bit of white hose that extends the 6.5m to about 8m.
Have chopped 15m x 30mm grey water hose into 10m & 5m that has been joined a few times (sullage & on garden beds). Join with a bit of bicycle tube. Also got a 2m (smaller diameter) if no sullage point and dumping in a bucket (and throwing away at some distance) or under van is preferred dump.
Have a 25m & 10m electrical. Used 25m a few times but never required both joined.
Usually have the 6.5m water, 5m grey and 10m electrical handy with the others buried deep in the bowels of the van.
All 3 cords are difficult but different to roll up. Have mastered all except the 10m & 6.5m water.
Just spotted the 10m camec curly-coil hose. Remember seeing a few people using this on a recent trip. Wonder if they are any good. Had a curly garden hose once and it was massively heavy (cannot remember what length). Only good if both ends were tethered which is what it will be on the van. camec.com/curly-coil-drinking-water-hose-10m.html
-- Edited by LLD on Wednesday 5th of October 2016 08:11:51 PM
It's never been rolled up.
Cut into 3 lengths & carried in conduits running under almost the full length of our 21'6" van.
Fittings allow me to use as many as necessary for the particular site.
I think that it was initially blue but is now mostly white.
I have replaced the 'O' rings on the connectors a few times and the brass fittings only once because the tiny white nylon 'fingers' wore down & high water pressure would cause the connection to blow apart.
Edit 2 .... Oops .... An observant reader might notice that the photo shows only two lengths of water hose & two sullage pipes. The third & rarely used length of water hose is in another conduit on the other side of the van. It is fitted with a garden spray nozzle. A third sullage back up pipe is stored in the chassis rail.
-- Edited by Cupie on Thursday 6th of October 2016 09:29:59 AM
-- Edited by Cupie on Thursday 6th of October 2016 12:56:39 PM
I have successfully used one of these for the last 5 years, I have 2 x 10mt lengths and join only when needed. I got it from evilbay but have seen them in caravan accessory places.
As for the drainage hose, I have two lengths of 30 mm (?) nylex hose. The main length is carried under the van through a 50 mm black irrigation hose which has been poked through the punchouts in the chassis members. All I do is simply pull the hose out from the 50 mm irrigation hose and lay it out to the drain. If I need a longer length, I have hee second piece rolled up in the van boot.
Hi, Hard pale blue hose for me, but I have never heard a bad report on the food grade white so can't comment. One of the best things I ever bought from a camping shop and I think BCF sell them as well was a bag to put the hose and another one for the extension lead. Google Hose Bag Company. So easy I think she could even do it :)) that's with the hard food grade like a coiled spring when wound up hose.
Garden hoses when left in the sun and the soft blue food grade hose ( I think its pope) from bunnings, are granted easy to wind up but the plastic taste. If you have water running through them all the time no problem but if the water- hose heats up, if something tastes that bad it can't be good for you.
We then hold it in place with two lengths of double sided Velcro and stop dust from getting into it by joining the two ends with the @2 grey plastic joiners from Bunnings (obviously we leave the clip connectors to go on the tap ends when in use). We can control the diameter of the rolled up hose depending on where we are storing it, but allowing it to flip around and not kink - we can have the diameter as small as 12")
I carry a 20, 10, and 5 meter length food grade water hoses
The free drinking water tap in Mount Isa (near the dump point) was a fair way, away from the road when I went through in 2014
Just throwing this into the mix
As a solo traveller I am set up to do everything by myself without help, as that is how I have to do it. Using the 10mt length I find it easy to roll up by myself and just put valcro around in 2 places. As I am rolling it up I D'kink as I go. I also run the hose through a 'chux' like cloth to wipe any water or dirt off. All works for me but sure your way works well for you Bruce and others.
Given my work background I have a latent Quality Process inclination. So when I put the water hose away I follow a standard process that goes like this .
Turn off the water
... Remove the click lock fitting from the tap , holding my palm against the fitting to deflect the spray
.. unscrew the fitting from the tap
... go to the van end & turn off the stop & unclip the hose
... Pull the hose to the rear of the van, giving it a flick so that it ends up lying parallel to the van
... Fit a joiner to the hose & put the cap on after wiping the end & 'O' ring clean of debris/dirt.
... Feed the hose into its pipe carrier under the van with left hand while running the host through a cleaning rag
... Do same for the second length of pipe
Result .. a clean hose in its carrier with the ends cleaned & sealed with no kinks or coil memory.
Not a good idea in the centre with red dirt either but the principle is sound.
Best off not to have to coil the hose or pipe.
If you have to, then the use of a rag in the hand to wipe it as you coil the hose, pipe or lead works.
Hi there LLD i got a bit sick of wrestling with the hose when trying to roll it then found The Hose Bag $18 odd dollars best thing out got mine on ebay check em out