Out of interest yesterday I went to the 4WD show in melb. I spoke to the various dealers at the show that were advocating remapping ECU's , I was told
that it would not void warranty as there are built in fail safes in the motor that the remapping cant over ride .???
Sounded like salesman's bulls..... to me . Also if a dealer did an update on the ECU that they would remap it for nothing once I was back near an outlet of theirs.
I was warned by another 4WD co that they had been CHing for remapping if it was removed by dealer up dating it at service and that remapping does over ride some fail safes.
I'm definitely thinking against it as the vehicle manufacturers spend a whole lot of money to develop a vehicle and employ the best engineers to do so .
Then small Co's come along with bugger all to lose and what real qualifications , and state that they can improve everything " SAFELY " .
I dont doubt they can increase things but whether its sustainable over the life of the motor is really dubious .
I was wondering if anyone had had a steinbauer chip fitted to their late model cars ? and the resultant effects
rockylizard said
08:54 AM Aug 20, 2016
Gday...
I'm not sure what "Water Bladder" has to do with engine re-mapping or chipping ... but this will give you some information to digest.
It is a bit long, but covers the subject quite fully -
I understand the general consensus is that 're-mapping' by the 'dealer' (or a reputable independent operator familiar with the vehicle) is preferred to installing a chip.
Others will disagree - but such is life.
Cheers - John
patrol03 said
09:10 AM Aug 20, 2016
I think you will find the factory map the ECU to comply with emission standards.If you want more power from an engine it basically comes from ignition and valve timing together with an increase of fuel supply. The ECU is remapped while the vehicle is on a dynamometer.For maximum power this is the way to go. Rule of thumb..you can't beat cubic capacity for towing.
mezza56 said
09:26 AM Aug 20, 2016
Yeah water bladder was on my mind b4 I wrote the post , shows what getting older does to you .
I seen a UV bladder at the show that weighs approx 2 kg rolled up to about 300 x 100 and holds 100 litres
thought it was a great idea to go into town and grab extra water when required .Better than 5 jerry cans for weight and storage
They come in various sizes up to whatever . Guy makes them for the army.
macka17 said
09:55 PM Aug 21, 2016
Bladders are ok as long as you keep them constrained.
They like a slippery snake.
We've used them up to 5000ltrs on boats.
Normally 1000.
I've seen 50000 and more gallons towed behind tugs across the short Oceans
and transferring from Tankers to refinery's.
They fine in van and floor of car.
Just strap them down and don't stand on it.
There are Water and diesel ones too.
Don't mix them. different material liners.
I have/had chips.
Next time it'll be a remap with copy of.
Factory settings are for min wear over longest time to cover idiots and warranty.
ALL engines WILL appreciate a remap.
Boosting the output, fuel burn. among a lot of other things.
Chips just do the fuel/timing thing. Can be naughty long term.
But BOTH, normally goes along with an exhaust upgrade
to help extract the more. hotter gasses.
Diggings said
12:11 PM Aug 26, 2016
I bought a Bladder some time ago and found it extremely handy when water is not close, and I have a DP chip in my PK ranger
macka17 said
07:26 PM Aug 26, 2016
A 100ltr sausage bladder is good.
It fits nicely along the footwell of my Dual cab floor
when we go bush or dams for fishing.
iana said
09:51 PM Aug 26, 2016
The bladder I have doesnt seem to move about much when traveling. Although I have on occasions, had to make stops and remove excess pressure build up, probably caused by the buffeting it gets because of our hard suspension. I usually keep it on the drivers seat with me, and luckily it hasnt to date, rolled off and become jammed under the seat. For as you know, unsupported, it could get punctured. I guess you already know that the fluid you keep in the bladder contains calcium, which can separate and form tiny stones, if left unchecked these stones can block the outlet, and together with the pressure build up can lead to dire consequences.
-- Edited by iana on Friday 26th of August 2016 09:52:21 PM
Out of interest yesterday I went to the 4WD show in melb. I spoke to the various dealers at the show that were advocating remapping ECU's , I was told
that it would not void warranty as there are built in fail safes in the motor that the remapping cant over ride .???
Sounded like salesman's bulls..... to me . Also if a dealer did an update on the ECU that they would remap it for nothing once I was back near an outlet of theirs.
I was warned by another 4WD co that they had been CHing for remapping if it was removed by dealer up dating it at service and that remapping does over ride some fail safes.
I'm definitely thinking against it as the vehicle manufacturers spend a whole lot of money to develop a vehicle and employ the best engineers to do so .
Then small Co's come along with bugger all to lose and what real qualifications , and state that they can improve everything " SAFELY " .
I dont doubt they can increase things but whether its sustainable over the life of the motor is really dubious .
I was wondering if anyone had had a steinbauer chip fitted to their late model cars ? and the resultant effects
Gday...
It is a bit long, but covers the subject quite fully -
https://outbackjoe.com/macho-divertissement/macho-articles/why-no-diesel-chip/
I understand the general consensus is that 're-mapping' by the 'dealer' (or a reputable independent operator familiar with the vehicle) is preferred to installing a chip.
Others will disagree - but such is life.
Cheers - John
Yeah water bladder was on my mind b4 I wrote the post , shows what getting older does to you .
I seen a UV bladder at the show that weighs approx 2 kg rolled up to about 300 x 100 and holds 100 litres
thought it was a great idea to go into town and grab extra water when required .Better than 5 jerry cans for weight and storage
They come in various sizes up to whatever . Guy makes them for the army.
They like a slippery snake.
We've used them up to 5000ltrs on boats.
Normally 1000.
I've seen 50000 and more gallons towed behind tugs across the short Oceans
and transferring from Tankers to refinery's.
They fine in van and floor of car.
Just strap them down and don't stand on it.
There are Water and diesel ones too.
Don't mix them. different material liners.
I have/had chips.
Next time it'll be a remap with copy of.
Factory settings are for min wear over longest time to cover idiots and warranty.
ALL engines WILL appreciate a remap.
Boosting the output, fuel burn. among a lot of other things.
Chips just do the fuel/timing thing. Can be naughty long term.
But BOTH, normally goes along with an exhaust upgrade
to help extract the more. hotter gasses.
It fits nicely along the footwell of my Dual cab floor
when we go bush or dams for fishing.
The bladder I have doesnt seem to move about much when traveling. Although I have on occasions, had to make stops and remove excess pressure build up, probably caused by the buffeting it gets because of our hard suspension.
I usually keep it on the drivers seat with me, and luckily it hasnt to date, rolled off and become jammed under the seat. For as you know, unsupported, it could get punctured.
I guess you already know that the fluid you keep in the bladder contains calcium, which can separate and form tiny stones, if left unchecked these stones can block the outlet, and together with the pressure build up can lead to dire consequences.
-- Edited by iana on Friday 26th of August 2016 09:52:21 PM