After reading the front page on the Nomads' re road kill just thought I would mention that I always carry a tiny bottle and special powdered milk (both from Vets) not expensive, in case of finding a baby Joey in it's mothers pouch. I always try and check if I see a recent kill.
I have so far raised quite a few and then hand them over to a wildlife park.
Must get the special powder otherwise if you feed them cow's milk they will go blind.
Helen
Sheba said
08:19 PM Aug 11, 2016
The Vet will probably tell you that you'll need the Long Teats for the bottle. Before they used to sell the special powder, I used Digestelact, with raw Egg Yolk added, plus ground Charcoal. The Egg stopped Scours, and the Charcoal keeps the stomach healthy.
Always carry a bottle and teats with me, but haven't had to use them for years. [Yes, I do check reasonably fresh road kill.]
Chers,
Sheba.
Philw said
09:30 PM Aug 13, 2016
We carry a pet crate after finding a ****atoo needing help and not having anything to put him in. We finally got him to a carer and he is now living a secure and happy life with a loving family. He had been a dumped pet. So affectionate and friendly too. Will have a talk to the vet about the milk powder and teats. Thanks for posting this. Phil
Philw said
09:31 PM Aug 13, 2016
It seems the site doesnt allow the birds first four letters of the name. It was a white big bird with a sulphur crest...sheesh lol
macka17 said
02:50 AM Aug 14, 2016
All the yrs we been travelling.
I've never seen a young one in pocket.
A couple standing beside mum, yes.
But you couldn't get near them.
Just put out of future starvation misery.
-- Edited by macka17 on Sunday 14th of August 2016 02:52:38 AM
June said
10:29 AM Aug 14, 2016
WILD LIFE
To those caring people who rescue wild life that are found on the road side, good job. I have found small bottles such as vanilla bottles, are great for feeding baby joeys, and a long teat is the one to use. Vets have the formula and teats. The correct formula is made up of a special powder called Di-vetalact, it has no lactose in it as the joeys are lactose intolerant, cows milk will kill them as will stress. Keep them away from cats as they carry a protozoan called toxoplasmosis which is deadly to the babies. If you find a baby in the pouch of its deceased mother, just keep it warm until you can take it to a vet who will contact a wild life carer. I wrap the little ones in a hand towel or something similar and pop them inside my t/shirt.
When rescuing birds, it's a good idea to wear gloves as they don't appreciate you handling them when they are hurt and can bite. I carry a pair of gardening gloves for that purpose. I might add, birds carry lice so the less they are handled, the better.
The above is just a little information for those caring people who rescue our injured wild life, until they can get them help. Thank you so much.
My daughter is a Vet. and has a wild life hospital on her property.
June C.
adreamer said
01:55 PM Aug 14, 2016
macka17 wrote:
All the yrs we been travelling.
I've never seen a young one in pocket.
A couple standing beside mum, yes.
But you couldn't get near them.
Just put out of future starvation misery.
-- Edited by macka17 on Sunday 14th of August 2016 02:52:38 AM
Macka, I think the only place you have been in the last 40 years is space.
Stop making stupid comments!!
Helen
HunnyBunny said
08:16 PM Aug 15, 2016
Have you ever noticed the pink spray on dead roos by the roadside? These are left by wildlife carers who have left their mark to say the pouch has been checked. In remote areas we won't see this, so it is wonderful to know that people care enough to check . Having been involved with wildlife care over the years I have found that in these cases, because of the heat, the trauma & the ants, you need to be quick to save the baby. If you do find one, Digestalact is the best product to use. I have always used a large syringe with a long nippled teat specially for roos. This pulls down over the end of the syringe so you can slowly push the milk into the babies mouth. They are often not very strong to suckle so this helps. I would only recommend this until you find a local Vet who will pass the joey onto a local shelter. A hot water bottle & a pillowcase slung onto the back of a chair makes a cosey, warm pouch until you reach a Vet. June has also given sound advice!
-- Edited by HunnyBunny on Monday 15th of August 2016 08:17:57 PM
macka17 said
02:11 AM Aug 17, 2016
No Adreamer.
Just practical.
Mum flat. trucks/cars everywhere. Dingo's at night.
Just put out of misery b4 they flattened, or eaten alive.
Not pretty
Decades ago I used to shoot them, and Pigs. and Foxes. and bunnies for a living.
And feral cats. Did a spell on Buff's too once.
Can't even stand on an ant or beetle nowadays. Times change.
Farmer got a dozen/20 tag.
We'd knock over 3/350 in a paddock. 12/20 ears.
Bury the rest in a big pit. Didn't even skin them.
Then go to next paddock
You want your grain. It had to be done.
Blame the gov't for that.
Impractical.
Like it or not girl. That is/was life in '70's and '80's.
Later too but not with myself..
Same as eradication of the Buff's in Territory and bunnies everywhere.
Man destroys EVERYTHING. with excuse of
civilisation and "PROGRESS".
Anything in the way. we remove/destroy it. Regardless.
Sorry. Back in hole and cuppa tea.
brickies said
01:37 PM Aug 21, 2016
Keep doing that Macka someone will report you to the RSPCA can go to jail for doing that
macka17 said
09:30 PM Aug 21, 2016
Talking 30/40 yrs ago Brickie.
Don't even own a gun nowadays.
Not a kind thing to do though.
Leaving a young hopper (out of the pouch size.)
around it's dead mum for the dingo's
and wild dogs, even feral cats..
Practicality and kindness comes into it. For every one that survives.
ten will be eaten, sorry.
I've spent a lot of yrs in the bush. Here and Sth Africa on the Cape mainly.
Came here from there.
And I'm a practical man when it comes to that.
JocknNik said
03:37 AM Sep 9, 2016
Macka, I've done pest culling too. You don't stand a chance of some people understanding the need. Many city dwellers just don't get it, and don't want to. They want the products of the farmer and to go see our wildlife - usually in an animal park - but won't accept the reality of 'roo overpopulation and the need to control them. Have to admit, it was one aspect of the process I had trouble handling, dealing with the joeys. I avoided kangaroo dealings in the end. I had no problem with foxes, cats and rabbits though. I happen to value our wildlife, and a feed of bread, lamb etc. And those ferals are incredibly destructive. 'Roos can be to farmlands as well. Most city people don't realise that in WA for instance, an open season with provisos exists for western grey kangaroos in some parts of the State's wheatbelt. Unfortunately it's often folks who weren't born in Oz who make the most anti- noise. They really need to spend time on a farm to try to get their heads around it. 'Nuf said!
Look, it's commendable to rescue a Grey or Red joey from a road kill. But it's simply a feel-good thing. It doesn't contribute to kangaroo conservation unless it's for one of the wallaby species which genuinely ARE threatened. And for most travellers it simply isn't practical. It's wise to carry some means of putting an injured or orphaned animal to sleep when outback travelling. It's all too easy to just drive on. Most do. And no, it isn't illegal to despatch, if necessary. The RSPCA has guidelines on it as a last resort. It just needs to be done as quickly and effectively as possible. The last time I had to do it, it was a wedge-tailed eagle which had been struck by a tourist bus ahead of us, which blithely travelled on, driver possibly unaware. I love birds and couldn't let the eagle die a slow death in stifling heat. We placed a light cover over the bird and I can tell you had a tear in my eye as I administered the coup-de-gras. I don't wish it on anyone. But trying to rescue the badly injured bird was a totally unrealistic proposition. If you haven't been there folks, I'd recommend you keep your counsel!
iana said
07:17 AM Sep 9, 2016
Pop corn, chips and coke quick!
Cupie said
07:50 PM Sep 25, 2016
JocknNik wrote:
Macka, I've done pest culling too. You don't stand a chance of some people understanding the need. Many city dwellers just don't get it, and don't want to. They want the products of the farmer and to go see our wildlife - usually in an animal park - but won't accept the reality of 'roo overpopulation and the need to control them. Have to admit, it was one aspect of the process I had trouble handling, dealing with the joeys. I avoided kangaroo dealings in the end. I had no problem with foxes, cats and rabbits though. I happen to value our wildlife, and a feed of bread, lamb etc. And those ferals are incredibly destructive. 'Roos can be to farmlands as well. Most city people don't realise that in WA for instance, an open season with provisos exists for western grey kangaroos in some parts of the State's wheatbelt. Unfortunately it's often folks who weren't born in Oz who make the most anti- noise. They really need to spend time on a farm to try to get their heads around it. 'Nuf said!
Look, it's commendable to rescue a Grey or Red joey from a road kill. But it's simply a feel-good thing. It doesn't contribute to kangaroo conservation unless it's for one of the wallaby species which genuinely ARE threatened. And for most travellers it simply isn't practical. It's wise to carry some means of putting an injured or orphaned animal to sleep when outback travelling. It's all too easy to just drive on. Most do. And no, it isn't illegal to despatch, if necessary. The RSPCA has guidelines on it as a last resort. It just needs to be done as quickly and effectively as possible. The last time I had to do it, it was a wedge-tailed eagle which had been struck by a tourist bus ahead of us, which blithely travelled on, driver possibly unaware. I love birds and couldn't let the eagle die a slow death in stifling heat. We placed a light cover over the bird and I can tell you had a tear in my eye as I administered the coup-de-gras. I don't wish it on anyone. But trying to rescue the badly injured bird was a totally unrealistic proposition. If you haven't been there folks, I'd recommend you keep your counsel!
Well said Jock.
-- Edited by Cupie on Sunday 25th of September 2016 07:51:47 PM
After reading the front page on the Nomads' re road kill just thought I would mention that I always carry a tiny bottle and special powdered milk (both from Vets) not expensive, in case of finding a baby Joey in it's mothers pouch. I always try and check if I see a recent kill.
I have so far raised quite a few and then hand them over to a wildlife park.
Must get the special powder otherwise if you feed them cow's milk they will go blind.
Helen
The Vet will probably tell you that you'll need the Long Teats for the bottle. Before they used to sell the special powder, I used Digestelact, with raw Egg Yolk added, plus ground Charcoal. The Egg stopped Scours, and the Charcoal keeps the stomach healthy.
Always carry a bottle and teats with me, but haven't had to use them for years. [Yes, I do check reasonably fresh road kill.]
Chers,
Sheba.
All the yrs we been travelling.
I've never seen a young one in pocket.
A couple standing beside mum, yes.
But you couldn't get near them.
Just put out of future starvation misery.
-- Edited by macka17 on Sunday 14th of August 2016 02:52:38 AM
To those caring people who rescue wild life that are found on the road side, good job. I have found small bottles such as vanilla bottles, are great for feeding baby joeys, and a long teat is the one to use. Vets have the formula and teats. The correct formula is made up of a special powder called Di-vetalact, it has no lactose in it as the joeys are lactose intolerant, cows milk will kill them as will stress. Keep them away from cats as they carry a protozoan called toxoplasmosis which is deadly to the babies. If you find a baby in the pouch of its deceased mother, just keep it warm until you can take it to a vet who will contact a wild life carer. I wrap the little ones in a hand towel or something similar and pop them inside my t/shirt.
When rescuing birds, it's a good idea to wear gloves as they don't appreciate you handling them when they are hurt and can bite. I carry a pair of gardening gloves for that purpose. I might add, birds carry lice so the less they are handled, the better.
The above is just a little information for those caring people who rescue our injured wild life, until they can get them help. Thank you so much.
My daughter is a Vet. and has a wild life hospital on her property.
June C.
Macka, I think the only place you have been in the last 40 years is space.
Stop making stupid comments!!
Helen
Have you ever noticed the pink spray on dead roos by the roadside? These are left by wildlife carers who have left their mark to say the pouch has been checked. In remote areas we won't see this, so it is wonderful to know that people care enough to check . Having been involved with wildlife care over the years I have found that in these cases, because of the heat, the trauma & the ants, you need to be quick to save the baby. If you do find one, Digestalact is the best product to use. I have always used a large syringe with a long nippled teat specially for roos. This pulls down over the end of the syringe so you can slowly push the milk into the babies mouth. They are often not very strong to suckle so this helps. I would only recommend this until you find a local Vet who will pass the joey onto a local shelter. A hot water bottle & a pillowcase slung onto the back of a chair makes a cosey, warm pouch until you reach a Vet. June has also given sound advice!
-- Edited by HunnyBunny on Monday 15th of August 2016 08:17:57 PM
Just practical.
Mum flat. trucks/cars everywhere. Dingo's at night.
Just put out of misery b4 they flattened, or eaten alive.
Not pretty
Decades ago I used to shoot them, and Pigs. and Foxes. and bunnies for a living.
And feral cats. Did a spell on Buff's too once.
Can't even stand on an ant or beetle nowadays. Times change.
Farmer got a dozen/20 tag.
We'd knock over 3/350 in a paddock. 12/20 ears.
Bury the rest in a big pit. Didn't even skin them.
Then go to next paddock
You want your grain. It had to be done.
Blame the gov't for that.
Impractical.
Like it or not girl. That is/was life in '70's and '80's.
Later too but not with myself..
Same as eradication of the Buff's in Territory and bunnies everywhere.
Man destroys EVERYTHING. with excuse of
civilisation and "PROGRESS".
Anything in the way. we remove/destroy it. Regardless.
Sorry. Back in hole and cuppa tea.
Don't even own a gun nowadays.
Not a kind thing to do though.
Leaving a young hopper (out of the pouch size.)
around it's dead mum for the dingo's
and wild dogs, even feral cats..
Practicality and kindness comes into it. For every one that survives.
ten will be eaten, sorry.
I've spent a lot of yrs in the bush. Here and Sth Africa on the Cape mainly.
Came here from there.
And I'm a practical man when it comes to that.
Look, it's commendable to rescue a Grey or Red joey from a road kill. But it's simply a feel-good thing. It doesn't contribute to kangaroo conservation unless it's for one of the wallaby species which genuinely ARE threatened. And for most travellers it simply isn't practical. It's wise to carry some means of putting an injured or orphaned animal to sleep when outback travelling. It's all too easy to just drive on. Most do. And no, it isn't illegal to despatch, if necessary. The RSPCA has guidelines on it as a last resort. It just needs to be done as quickly and effectively as possible. The last time I had to do it, it was a wedge-tailed eagle which had been struck by a tourist bus ahead of us, which blithely travelled on, driver possibly unaware. I love birds and couldn't let the eagle die a slow death in stifling heat. We placed a light cover over the bird and I can tell you had a tear in my eye as I administered the coup-de-gras. I don't wish it on anyone. But trying to rescue the badly injured bird was a totally unrealistic proposition. If you haven't been there folks, I'd recommend you keep your counsel!
Well said Jock.
-- Edited by Cupie on Sunday 25th of September 2016 07:51:47 PM