One reason why council booked Hey Jim for Parking on his footpath
brickies said
04:18 PM Jul 14, 2016
A lady in our street mother was visiting her on the school holidays to mind her grandchildren while the mother went to work . Our street is a small court and the lady park on the footpath has not to clog up the roadway . Well the council put a $90 ticket on her car for parking on the footpath , After contacting the local council has why this happen she was told the complaint was made by the postman who complain it made it dangerous to deliver the mail . And if they get complaint they must act , So that put a different slant onto council just been money grabbers
Bruce and Bev said
04:33 PM Jul 14, 2016
the council has the ultimate decision as to whether or not enforce their own by-laws. They could just warn her not to park there in future, but instead park on the roadway and, by the souns of it, cause inconvenience to neighbours and their car use.
And what was the Postie doing on the footpath? They are not exempt from riding a motor vehicle on a footpath ! We know they do, but in this case if the Council is going to be even handed, the Postie should also be issued an infringement notice (and I do appreciate that Aust Post don't give Posties the time to safely ride up a driveway, drop mail in a letter box and then return to the roadway.
The problem with councils doing this is that they are not trained like the police to enforce laws and notices and decisions to prosecute or demand payment of a fine are made by civilians.
As for not being money grabbers, of course they are. The Perth City Council, for example, has an annual budget for revenue from parking fines - it makes up a substantial portion of their total income. As an employee, if you are working to a budget, then of course you will try to meet or exceed it.
A couple of weeks ago we saw on the TV news a businessman being ticketed by a parking warden for parking his delivery truck outside his premises in a goods delivery zone. The businessman was able to show on date and time stamped CCTV that he had parked his truck briefly outside his shop, unloaded it and driven off. He returned later in the day and repeated the same thing, but was ticketed. The Council then claimed the truck had been parked in the same place for most of the day. Whoops - caught out in lies by CCTV !
brickies said
04:56 PM Jul 14, 2016
If you check postie are by law allowed to ride their bike on the footpath .
LLD said
05:13 PM Jul 14, 2016
I used to get warnings from the postie in my letterbox. However, they were always for my neighbour's cars so I dropped them in his letterbox. If the council gets a complaint, they must act. Happens all the time with grumpy neighbours who want council to police all the by-laws to the n th degree.
Strictly speaking, other than popping the bonnet on a car to jump start it, you are not allowed to do any maintenance on a vehicle at all in the street, even change a light bulb or check the oil.
If you check postie are by law allowed to ride their bike on the footpath .
Oh no theyre not. By law they must ride on the road, park their bike, get off and hand deliver. And that's a fact. I was in AP for a long time, it's only allowed by police "turning a blind eye".
dorian said
07:02 AM Jul 15, 2016
Our postperson leaves deep, ugly, muddy ruts in our grass on every wet day. Usually s/he is too lazy to deliver parcels or registered mail to our door, instead leaving behind a "sorry, you weren't home" notice in the mailbox, with the result that elderly people then have to make the trek to the post office. I can't wait for AP to be privatised.
Bushy said
08:25 AM Jul 15, 2016
G'day all , the postie is allowed to ride on the footpath for the purpose of delivering the mail . The motorcycle must be 110cc or less and the rider must not exceed 8 kph .this is an excemption for post only . As far as the comment made about privatisation of AP you are all to late it is privatised , Not sold but privatised from within .
-- Edited by Bushy on Friday 15th of July 2016 08:29:52 AM
brickies said
08:32 AM Jul 15, 2016
Thanks Bushy for your post I did know that but other did not believe it . Australia post have guide line training for posties rideing on footpaths .
macka17 said
04:20 PM Jul 15, 2016
We have a huge Frangipanni growing in our front raised (stepped) hgarden.
Every coupla yrs it's hanging out in front of brick letterbox built into retaing wall.
Around 14 yrs ago. the Posties knocked on door. (really abrupt and rude to missus)
and said if you don't shift that blocking my route.
I won't deliver to you anymore. Yea.
I cut it all back and stacked it in front of wall so he had to ride round it to get to box..
waiting for him to come next day.
"I cut it back and shifted it like you said"
and walked back in house.
Left there for a week then took down the dump.
Never heard from him again.
Niceness goes both ways mate.
Abuse my missus you likely to "fall" off your bike.
If he'd asked her nicely, it would have been gone that arvo.
I got that sticky **** all over me moving it, twice.
Up to your front wall/easement line is actually council land. Not yours.
Normally around ten feet or so.
Mainly so they can work on, dig trenches for services
without encroaching on your land.
Plain Truth said
06:56 PM Jul 16, 2016
Bruce and Bev wrote:
Posties are not allowed to ride on footpaths in W.A.......maybe they are in QLD and some other States....
I believe it is Australian Post,they can ride on footpathshttp://auspost.com.au/education/ourpost/students/our-post/posties-safe.html
Plain Truth said
06:57 PM Jul 16, 2016
Bruce and Bev wrote:
Posties are not allowed to ride on footpaths in W.A.......maybe they are in QLD and some other States....
I believe it is Australian Post,they can ride on footpathshttp://auspost.com.au/education/ourpost/students/our-post/posties-safe.html
Plain Truth said
07:05 PM Jul 16, 2016
Bruce and Bev wrote:
Posties are not allowed to ride on footpaths in W.A.......maybe they are in QLD and some other States....
Can you put up a link showing they cannot ride on the footpath in W.A
delatite said
09:25 PM Jul 16, 2016
Quite simple really. Just need to read the legislation.
This is the link. If it doesn't work, copy and paste.
A lady in our street mother was visiting her on the school holidays to mind her grandchildren while the mother went to work . Our street is a small court and the lady park on the footpath has not to clog up the roadway . Well the council put a $90 ticket on her car for parking on the footpath , After contacting the local council has why this happen she was told the complaint was made by the postman who complain it made it dangerous to deliver the mail . And if they get complaint they must act , So that put a different slant onto council just been money grabbers
And what was the Postie doing on the footpath? They are not exempt from riding a motor vehicle on a footpath ! We know they do, but in this case if the Council is going to be even handed, the Postie should also be issued an infringement notice (and I do appreciate that Aust Post don't give Posties the time to safely ride up a driveway, drop mail in a letter box and then return to the roadway.
The problem with councils doing this is that they are not trained like the police to enforce laws and notices and decisions to prosecute or demand payment of a fine are made by civilians.
As for not being money grabbers, of course they are. The Perth City Council, for example, has an annual budget for revenue from parking fines - it makes up a substantial portion of their total income. As an employee, if you are working to a budget, then of course you will try to meet or exceed it.
A couple of weeks ago we saw on the TV news a businessman being ticketed by a parking warden for parking his delivery truck outside his premises in a goods delivery zone. The businessman was able to show on date and time stamped CCTV that he had parked his truck briefly outside his shop, unloaded it and driven off. He returned later in the day and repeated the same thing, but was ticketed. The Council then claimed the truck had been parked in the same place for most of the day. Whoops - caught out in lies by CCTV !
Strictly speaking, other than popping the bonnet on a car to jump start it, you are not allowed to do any maintenance on a vehicle at all in the street, even change a light bulb or check the oil.
Oh no theyre not. By law they must ride on the road, park their bike, get off and hand deliver. And that's a fact. I was in AP for a long time, it's only allowed by police "turning a blind eye".
G'day all , the postie is allowed to ride on the footpath for the purpose of delivering the mail . The motorcycle must be 110cc or less and the rider must not exceed 8 kph .this is an excemption for post only . As far as the comment made about privatisation of AP you are all to late it is privatised , Not sold but privatised from within .
-- Edited by Bushy on Friday 15th of July 2016 08:29:52 AM
Every coupla yrs it's hanging out in front of brick letterbox built into retaing wall.
Around 14 yrs ago. the Posties knocked on door. (really abrupt and rude to missus)
and said if you don't shift that blocking my route.
I won't deliver to you anymore. Yea.
I cut it all back and stacked it in front of wall so he had to ride round it to get to box..
waiting for him to come next day.
"I cut it back and shifted it like you said"
and walked back in house.
Left there for a week then took down the dump.
Never heard from him again.
Niceness goes both ways mate.
Abuse my missus you likely to "fall" off your bike.
If he'd asked her nicely, it would have been gone that arvo.
I got that sticky **** all over me moving it, twice.
Up to your front wall/easement line is actually council land. Not yours.
Normally around ten feet or so.
Mainly so they can work on, dig trenches for services
without encroaching on your land.
I believe it is Australian Post,they can ride on footpathshttp://auspost.com.au/education/ourpost/students/our-post/posties-safe.html
I believe it is Australian Post,they can ride on footpathshttp://auspost.com.au/education/ourpost/students/our-post/posties-safe.html
Can you put up a link showing they cannot ride on the footpath in W.A
Quite simple really. Just need to read the legislation.
This is the link. If it doesn't work, copy and paste.
http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/wa/consol_reg/rtc2000113/s253.html
But essentially
Road Traffic Code 2000 - Reg 253
Driving on a Path
Subsection 1 creates the offence for driving on a path.
Subsection 2 provides the exemptions to Subsection 1.
Subsection 2h states,
(h) a person riding a bicycle, or a motor cycle, that is a postal vehicle, if
(i) the path is not more than 100 m from the next delivery point; and
(ii) the person takes adequate precautions to avoid colliding with, endangering or obstructing any person or vehicle on the path; and
(iii) the person is riding the bicycle or motor cycle at a speed not exceeding 10 km/h;
Hope this solves the problem. Whether or they comply with this rule to the letter is not the point here. The exemption is there.
This exemption is Australia wide.