Catching Grey water and possibly storing in a Toyota hi ace
Evie n Rhys said
07:22 AM Jun 19, 2016
just wondering what people with a hi ace use for grey water. I find a normal bucket or even the square buckets don't fit under it. Also if you need to collect and remove the grey water as some shires insist on how do you handle that?
KJB said
09:32 AM Jun 19, 2016
Maybe a "Sump Oil " dish/container from Super Cheap.( plasic oil drainage dish - EBay)
KB
Izabarack said
09:39 AM Jun 19, 2016
Lots of discussions and suggestions on this subject on the CMCA forum. Simplest solution seems to involve a 20 litre drum on the ground adjacent to the discharge point from the van. Feed to the drum can be nearly at ground level and a breather ending above the level of the sink ensures free draining. A tap on the outlet and some way of disconnecting from the discharge point without spillage is the only real difficulty in setting somthing up. When the water in the sink will not drain, you know the collection drum is over full and that situation gets difficult to handle without spillage. The whole gray water issue now seems important because Councils are insisting on no gray water on the ground because of Health department rules.
Iza
BaupleNut said
09:54 AM Jun 19, 2016
How about a portable Grey Water Tank, they have wheels and lay flat at about 200mm high.
Evie n Rhys said
11:57 AM Jun 19, 2016
Thank you all for your help.
Ron-D said
12:49 PM Jun 19, 2016
This is slightly off topic I suppose We have just returned home after a couple of months on the road freecamping mostly this time out.
I was rather disappointed in one way after going to the trouble of making up a leave no trace tank, We only came across two places that had a leave no trace sign up.
Both spots were not policed, and people had there water simply draining onto the very dry grass areasl anyway , one question to the forum, with my newly constructed holding tank with a neat little drain hose that's sealed into the tank,do I need to have a shut off valve incorporated in it...
P/s just wondering how many places actually police this leave no trace ,We camped at a huge amount of sites and really carting those tanks around took up a lot of space i could have used , Iam no environmental bandit but I felt a bit lonely being the only one with a tank on the ground LoL....
Aus-Kiwi said
02:38 PM Jun 19, 2016
Some places environmentally need grey water control . Others don't .
Ron-D said
07:30 PM Jun 19, 2016
Yeah your right especially on hard surfaces ,( personal opinion ) I think RV water from what I have seen is not the bad thing that some special interest groups make it out to be. .How many caravan parks with really nice grassed surfaces just let you put your water on the ground quite a few that I have came across,
Anyway people running the campgrounds have to be respected,from personal experience the greater majority don't mind the water...
Aus-Kiwi said
08:21 PM Jun 19, 2016
I keep grease and oil out of grey water as much as I can . Generally the detergent will help water saturate into soil . Like water wetter .
Hylife said
09:53 PM Jun 19, 2016
Gravity works quite well if you just connect a short length of hose to your outlet and pop the other end into the bucket.
Liquids can flow uphill when there is sufficient pressure behind them. In this case, your sink is higher than the bucket so the waste will flow quite OK into your bucket.
Just think of the loop at the bottom of the hose as an S-bend like you find in normal household plumbing.
Izabarack said
01:39 PM Jun 20, 2016
Hylife wrote:
........ and pop the other end into the bucket.
Unlikely to be acceptable anywhere gray water disposal is controled. The open top bucket is prone to overflow and the method is banned in all the places I have visited that require dump point disposal.
Iza
Aus-Kiwi said
02:35 PM Jun 20, 2016
One option is to get plastic petrol tank out of 91 or latter Falcon or any plastic tank available these days . Using straps etc .,
aussie_paul said
02:47 PM Jun 20, 2016
Aus-Kiwi wrote:
One option is to get plastic petrol tank out of 91 or latter Falcon or any plastic tank available these days . Using straps etc .,
Now!! what a great idea.
Aussie Paul.
cjt55 said
10:40 AM Jun 21, 2016
A Tote Tank is ideal for this. You can get them in 35 or 45 Litre models. They can hold either Black or Grey water. I have attached a link below.
Just buy a 60/80/90ltr water tank from dealers.
and strap it up under van.
Mine works well with t piece tap to change over
Simple and easy.
Plus you can use it to balance van a bit more if needed
Heavy/light drawbar etc.
In front or behind axles.
Izabarack said
06:57 PM Jun 21, 2016
macka17 wrote:
Just buy a 60/80/90ltr water tank from dealers. and strap it up under van.
The original question relates to gray water storage in a Hi Ace.
Iza
Evie n Rhys said
05:59 AM Jun 23, 2016
Thank you that looks like a go...
goldenyears said
06:10 PM Feb 21, 2017
I have a hiace I run a hose from sink into a bucket no dramas ... no need for grey water tanks .. just water from the sink when washing up .....no damage done if it just runs on ground !!
madaboutled said
10:04 PM Feb 21, 2017
Back in the early 90's, I helped fit out a van into a pop top camper. I think it was a Hiace van... anyway it had a sub floor between the inside flat floor and the underside pan. Whilst the space wasn't that high, it was still usable and in part of it we fitted 2 cut down black poly caravan water tanks. They were 60 lt tanks but too high, so we cut out about 2 inches of the height and then had the top and bottom sections platic welded together. End result was 2 concealed water tanks which held about 40 liters each in a space that was rarely used.
I'm not sure if the modern vans still have that space because the last campervan I looked at had a small water tank inside the cabinet below the sink. But if your van has that space you might be able to use it with a small bladder tank. There's a mob in Melbourne that makes custom bladder tanks from PVC sheet and it would be a lot cheaper and easier than cutting down poly tanks.
just wondering what people with a hi ace use for grey water. I find a normal bucket or even the square buckets don't fit under it. Also if you need to collect and remove the grey water as some shires insist on how do you handle that?
Maybe a "Sump Oil " dish/container from Super Cheap.( plasic oil drainage dish - EBay)
KB
Iza
This is slightly off topic I suppose We have just returned home after a couple of months on the road freecamping mostly this time out.
I was rather disappointed in one way after going to the trouble of making up a leave no trace tank, We only came across two places that had a leave no trace sign up.
Both spots were not policed, and people had there water simply draining onto the very dry grass areasl anyway , one question to the forum, with my newly constructed holding tank with a neat little drain hose that's sealed into the tank,do I need to have a shut off valve incorporated in it...
P/s just wondering how many places actually police this leave no trace ,We camped at a huge amount of sites and really carting those tanks around took up a lot of space i could have used , Iam no environmental bandit but I felt a bit lonely being the only one with a tank on the ground LoL....
Yeah your right especially on hard surfaces ,( personal opinion ) I think RV water from what I have seen is not the bad thing that some special interest groups make it out to be. .How many caravan parks with really nice grassed surfaces just let you put your water on the ground quite a few that I have came across,
Anyway people running the campgrounds have to be respected,from personal experience the greater majority don't mind the water...
Liquids can flow uphill when there is sufficient pressure behind them. In this case, your sink is higher than the bucket so the waste will flow quite OK into your bucket.
Just think of the loop at the bottom of the hose as an S-bend like you find in normal household plumbing.
Unlikely to be acceptable anywhere gray water disposal is controled. The open top bucket is prone to overflow and the method is banned in all the places I have visited that require dump point disposal.
Iza
Now!! what a great idea.
Aussie Paul.
www.rvaccessories.com.au/index.php
and strap it up under van.
Mine works well with t piece tap to change over
Simple and easy.
Plus you can use it to balance van a bit more if needed
Heavy/light drawbar etc.
In front or behind axles.
The original question relates to gray water storage in a Hi Ace.
Iza
Thank you that looks like a go...
I have a hiace I run a hose from sink into a bucket no dramas ... no need for grey water tanks .. just water from the sink when washing up .....no damage done if it just runs on ground !!
Back in the early 90's, I helped fit out a van into a pop top camper. I think it was a Hiace van... anyway it had a sub floor between the inside flat floor and the underside pan. Whilst the space wasn't that high, it was still usable and in part of it we fitted 2 cut down black poly caravan water tanks. They were 60 lt tanks but too high, so we cut out about 2 inches of the height and then had the top and bottom sections platic welded together. End result was 2 concealed water tanks which held about 40 liters each in a space that was rarely used.
I'm not sure if the modern vans still have that space because the last campervan I looked at had a small water tank inside the cabinet below the sink. But if your van has that space you might be able to use it with a small bladder tank. There's a mob in Melbourne that makes custom bladder tanks from PVC sheet and it would be a lot cheaper and easier than cutting down poly tanks.