Need to get PSW probably get 2000w one surge to 4000w.
Will inverter draw same amps for say 1000 watt device and a 300 watt device used one at a time? ie does it know device doesn't need full power
Huge price diff with inverters, there are some around $400-500, other $900-1200.
Anyone have ideas on above ? anyone using one in the $400-500 range. if you lashed out $900-1200 why? extra features? reliable?
only going to use it for about 15 mins day, except when breadmaking
Izabarack said
10:08 AM Jun 18, 2016
Are you going to have the battery capacity to run such a large inverter? For only a short time each day, a generator might do the job for you. Despite all the whinging about generators, not many neighbours object to having one run for short periods during the day.
Iza
Woody46 said
10:12 AM Jun 18, 2016
Hi Stoney 123. As it happens I'm Woodbridge. I have had a few inverters and mostly because of mishaps and ignorance have blown some up. I currently have a powertech 1000 watt and an $360 3000 watt which seems to be a beauty. The smaller one cost near $750 and is good, I run the caravan of a night with it. The big one I run all day everyday using the toaster and microwave with excellent results . The power each inverter uses seems minimal so the choice is yours, from memory the 2000 watt powertech is around$1200, you can buy three and a half of the cheaper ones on ebay delivered to you wherever. Hope this is of some use. Cheers Woody46
stoney123 said
10:12 AM Jun 18, 2016
hi tza
yep, battery can handle it. Its big lifepo4. Most lifepo4s can only do 400 watts. They dont mention that in their ads.
cheers
macka17 said
02:21 PM Jun 18, 2016
Hi.
To supply power for a 2000/4000w Inverter, for any length of time.
You'd need solar and battery's coming out your butt.
I have a 300w runs TV coupla lights and 240v fan.
For an average evening.
600w unit runs above, plus satbox/T Box and more lights.
320w panels and 2 x 110AGM,s ran van fine.
Microwave. oven. Air cond. Bread maker Kettle. etc etc.
3.4kva Genny did fine. Or Mains when avail.
It actually runs 2 x Aircond,s plus lights tv etc
for two vans at same time
side by side.
My Genny has a chinese/Japanese Honda driving it.
IE sold to China under Trade agreements.
Orig Jap mfg, Honda engine with serial No's rubbed out.
$470 del, 7 yrs ago.
used regularly never missed a beat.
Don't forget those Inverters USE juice just being in line.
Bigger they r more they use.
Check the spec's.
dragonfly1 said
03:41 PM Jun 18, 2016
We have a 2500 watt inverter from ebay mishto brand from Bit Deals $278 runs everything coffee machine washing machine vacumn cleaner microwave .We only run one thing at a time and have 240 amps of batteries and 400 watts of solar
Dragonfly1
Woody46 said
04:19 PM Jun 18, 2016
Good on you Dragonfly 1, it's not that hard is it. I have twice as much but I could be classed as a fool. I love solar stuff. Keep on keeping on. Cheers Woody46
stoney123 said
04:38 PM Jun 18, 2016
cheers all
dragonfly and woody tks for your specs/usage.. i too will have 400 watts of solar + dcdc charger. i do not want gas or generator. climate change is real. not to mention total fire bans including gas are going to occur heaps more frequently and for longer duration.
after trailer is built with all the fun stuff, i intend to roam for at least 5-6 years, the solar and free camping + catching some fish and prawns will make that happen.
cheers
nap time euro 2012 on later
sportstream.tv
beiffe said
04:53 PM Jun 21, 2016
Stoney123.
Not sure where you got the 400w only for a LifePo4 battery. It will give you a very nasty shock if you accidentally short it out. LOL. If you mean Ah then look at building your own it is a lot cheaper just lots of people who have the figures wrong and are heading for disasters but we will see down the track.
I have had LiFePo4 for 5 years and have used a cheap charger inverter 2400w 50A. Think costs about $450 but the experts will tell you they are no good but who cares it works for me.( they changed the config to suit the LifePo4's. Most wont start high enough for LiFePo4's )
LiFePo4 will takes as much charge as you can gove it. 100A is nothing and will give you all you will ever need. I often pull over 100A at 24V using and induction stove and a 240v Kmart toaster at the same time so it will be a suck and see as you go.
Just be aware of the inverter standby power as mine is very hungry but I have the Batteries to handle it so its a case of do you put all your money into the fancy appliances or spend the money on more batteries.
My bus was setup for Caravan Park only when I got it so I added the batteries and left the rest as it was except the stove which I now regret taking out.
If you are careful what you do such as not wanting a shower twice a day and leaving the water heater going 24/7 (mine uses excess charge capacity on auto) you can live easy on battery power. I have never had any gas all 240v.
Regards
Brian
stoney123 said
05:04 PM Jun 21, 2016
cheers brian
here is link warning not to use > 800watts on a lifepo4 (scroll down)
question re standby mode, i intend to have it turned off. do i have to disconnect as well?
good to see you got good setup.
cheers
peter
KevKim37 said
12:53 AM Jun 23, 2016
I have 400Ah LifePo4's with 600 watts of Solar, 25 amp 240 volt charger which I rarely use now, 30amp DC-DC ABR Side winder charger and a Cheap 2000/4000watt surge $300 PSW Inverter for close to 2 yrs without a problem.
I have seen this Inverter drawing 180 amps DC running a Hot Water 1400watt AC element and other small 240volt components at the same time. Also coffee pod machine 1300watts AC and Frother 650watts AC simultaneously drawing 180amps DC.
I also have 200watts of Portable Flexible Panels for Winter climes and poor weather and 300watts of Solar on the Ute with 100Ah LifePo4 for a 60 litreTrailblazer F/F and Shunting extra power to the van when required.
Cheers Kev.
-- Edited by KevKim37 on Thursday 23rd of June 2016 12:57:19 AM
-- Edited by KevKim37 on Thursday 23rd of June 2016 12:58:20 AM
-- Edited by KevKim37 on Thursday 23rd of June 2016 12:58:58 AM
oldtrack123 said
10:05 PM Jun 23, 2016
Ask Brian "how many watts of solar panels do you have??"
beiffe said
09:31 AM Jun 24, 2016
You never let up do you old track ???
oldtrack123 said
10:10 PM Jun 25, 2016
beiffe wrote:
You never let up do you old track ???
I thought that should be simple enough to give, considering you were saying all you could run
.I am sure others would be interested too
Other posters do not seem to have a problem with posting their solar capacity
-- Edited by oldtrack123 on Saturday 25th of June 2016 10:13:52 PM
Jaahn said
09:50 AM Jun 26, 2016
stoney123 wrote:
hi,
Need to get PSW probably get 2000w one surge to 4000w.
Will inverter draw same amps for say 1000 watt device and a 300 watt device used one at a time? ie does it know device doesn't need full power
Hi Stoney123,
No one has answered this question, just rabbited on a bit mostly
The inverter will only draw current(power) to run the power required at the time. So a small appliance will only draw a small power etc. My advice is to get one just rated enough to do the biggest lob with a margin of reserve. And wire it in correctly so the losses are low.
Jaahn
stoney123 said
11:01 AM Jun 26, 2016
hi Jaahn,
tks that's what i was hoping to hear.
oldtrack123 said
03:54 PM Jun 26, 2016
Jaahn wrote:
stoney123 wrote:
hi,
Need to get PSW probably get 2000w one surge to 4000w.
Will inverter draw same amps for say 1000 watt device and a 300 watt device used one at a time? ie does it know device doesn't need full power
Hi Stoney123,
No one has answered this question, just rabbited on a bit mostly
The inverter will only draw current(power) to run the power required at the time. So a small appliance will only draw a small power etc. My advice is to get one just rated enough to do the biggest lob with a margin of reserve. And wire it in correctly so the losses are low.
Jaahn
Not quite right
The bigger the inverter the more STANDBY current it will draw while supplied with power
The standby current should be shown in the Specs
But a bigger inverter will still draw the same" load" current as a smaller one which is added to the standby current
So Actually a bigger inverter than needed WILL draw more current than a closer sized one.
Just remember inverters often have two ratings
One, the larger, is a surge rating which it can only put out safely for seconds.
The other lower rating is the continuous rating which it should be capable of putting out indefinitely without overheating
Finally remember use with care, THAT 240V can kill
the safety recommendation is: Never connect more than ONE CLASS 1, have 3pin plugs, @ any time
-- Edited by oldtrack123 on Sunday 26th of June 2016 04:08:14 PM
stoney123 said
08:02 AM Jun 28, 2016
tks oldtrack,
i will have remote off/on but will power it off at inverter 99.99% of time. pity no smart inverters
Jaahn said
08:47 AM Jun 28, 2016
stoney123 wrote:
tks oldtrack,
i will have remote off/on but will power it off at inverter 99.99% of time. pity no smart inverters
Hi stoney123,
There are smart inverters. I have one and it is auto start when you switch something on !! It reverts to sleep mode normally. It is an old one though !
hi,
Need to get PSW probably get 2000w one surge to 4000w.
Will inverter draw same amps for say 1000 watt device and a 300 watt device used one at a time? ie does it know device doesn't need full power
Huge price diff with inverters, there are some around $400-500, other $900-1200.
Anyone have ideas on above ? anyone using one in the $400-500 range. if you lashed out $900-1200 why? extra features? reliable?
only going to use it for about 15 mins day, except when breadmaking
Are you going to have the battery capacity to run such a large inverter? For only a short time each day, a generator might do the job for you. Despite all the whinging about generators, not many neighbours object to having one run for short periods during the day.
Iza
Hi Stoney 123. As it happens I'm Woodbridge. I have had a few inverters and mostly because of mishaps and ignorance have blown some up. I currently have a powertech 1000 watt and an $360 3000 watt which seems to be a beauty. The smaller one cost near $750 and is good, I run the caravan of a night with it. The big one I run all day everyday using the toaster and microwave with excellent results . The power each inverter uses seems minimal so the choice is yours, from memory the 2000 watt powertech is around$1200, you can buy three and a half of the cheaper ones on ebay delivered to you wherever. Hope this is of some use. Cheers Woody46
hi tza
yep, battery can handle it. Its big lifepo4. Most lifepo4s can only do 400 watts. They dont mention that in their ads.
cheers
To supply power for a 2000/4000w Inverter, for any length of time.
You'd need solar and battery's coming out your butt.
I have a 300w runs TV coupla lights and 240v fan.
For an average evening.
600w unit runs above, plus satbox/T Box and more lights.
320w panels and 2 x 110AGM,s ran van fine.
Microwave. oven. Air cond. Bread maker Kettle. etc etc.
3.4kva Genny did fine. Or Mains when avail.
It actually runs 2 x Aircond,s plus lights tv etc
for two vans at same time
side by side.
My Genny has a chinese/Japanese Honda driving it.
IE sold to China under Trade agreements.
Orig Jap mfg, Honda engine with serial No's rubbed out.
$470 del, 7 yrs ago.
used regularly never missed a beat.
Don't forget those Inverters USE juice just being in line.
Bigger they r more they use.
Check the spec's.
We have a 2500 watt inverter from ebay mishto brand from Bit Deals $278 runs everything coffee machine washing machine vacumn cleaner microwave .We only run one thing at a time and have 240 amps of batteries and 400 watts of solar
Dragonfly1
Good on you Dragonfly 1, it's not that hard is it. I have twice as much but I could be classed as a fool. I love solar stuff. Keep on keeping on. Cheers Woody46
cheers all
dragonfly and woody tks for your specs/usage.. i too will have 400 watts of solar + dcdc charger. i do not want gas or generator. climate change is real. not to mention total fire bans including gas are going to occur heaps more frequently and for longer duration.
after trailer is built with all the fun stuff, i intend to roam for at least 5-6 years, the solar and free camping + catching some fish and prawns will make that happen.
cheers
nap time euro 2012 on later
sportstream.tv
Not sure where you got the 400w only for a LifePo4 battery. It will give you a very nasty shock if you accidentally short it out. LOL. If you mean Ah then look at building your own it is a lot cheaper just lots of people who have the figures wrong and are heading for disasters but we will see down the track.
I have had LiFePo4 for 5 years and have used a cheap charger inverter 2400w 50A. Think costs about $450 but the experts will tell you they are no good but who cares it works for me.( they changed the config to suit the LifePo4's. Most wont start high enough for LiFePo4's )
LiFePo4 will takes as much charge as you can gove it. 100A is nothing and will give you all you will ever need. I often pull over 100A at 24V using and induction stove and a 240v Kmart toaster at the same time so it will be a suck and see as you go.
Just be aware of the inverter standby power as mine is very hungry but I have the Batteries to handle it so its a case of do you put all your money into the fancy appliances or spend the money on more batteries.
My bus was setup for Caravan Park only when I got it so I added the batteries and left the rest as it was except the stove which I now regret taking out.
If you are careful what you do such as not wanting a shower twice a day and leaving the water heater going 24/7 (mine uses excess charge capacity on auto) you can live easy on battery power. I have never had any gas all 240v.
Regards
Brian
here is link warning not to use > 800watts on a lifepo4 (scroll down)
www.batteriesdirect.com.au/shop/product/23886/V-LFP-12-200.html
question re standby mode, i intend to have it turned off. do i have to disconnect as well?
good to see you got good setup.
cheers
peter
I have 400Ah LifePo4's with 600 watts of Solar, 25 amp 240 volt charger which I rarely use now, 30amp DC-DC ABR Side winder charger and a Cheap 2000/4000watt surge $300 PSW Inverter for close to 2 yrs without a problem.
I have seen this Inverter drawing 180 amps DC running a Hot Water 1400watt AC element and other small 240volt components at the same time. Also coffee pod machine 1300watts AC and Frother 650watts AC simultaneously drawing 180amps DC.
I also have 200watts of Portable Flexible Panels for Winter climes and poor weather and 300watts of Solar on the Ute with 100Ah LifePo4 for a 60 litreTrailblazer F/F and Shunting extra power to the van when required.
Cheers Kev.
-- Edited by KevKim37 on Thursday 23rd of June 2016 12:57:19 AM
-- Edited by KevKim37 on Thursday 23rd of June 2016 12:58:20 AM
-- Edited by KevKim37 on Thursday 23rd of June 2016 12:58:58 AM
I thought that should be simple enough to give, considering you were saying all you could run
.I am sure others would be interested too
Other posters do not seem to have a problem with posting their solar capacity
-- Edited by oldtrack123 on Saturday 25th of June 2016 10:13:52 PM
Hi Stoney123,
No one has answered this question, just rabbited on a bit mostly
The inverter will only draw current(power) to run the power required at the time. So a small appliance will only draw a small power etc. My advice is to get one just rated enough to do the biggest lob with a margin of reserve. And wire it in correctly so the losses are low.
Jaahn
tks that's what i was hoping to hear.
Not quite right
The bigger the inverter the more STANDBY current it will draw while supplied with power
The standby current should be shown in the Specs
But a bigger inverter will still draw the same" load" current as a smaller one which is added to the standby current
So Actually a bigger inverter than needed WILL draw more current than a closer sized one.
Just remember inverters often have two ratings
One, the larger, is a surge rating which it can only put out safely for seconds.
The other lower rating is the continuous rating which it should be capable of putting out indefinitely without overheating
Finally remember use with care, THAT 240V can kill
the safety recommendation is: Never connect more than ONE CLASS 1, have 3pin plugs, @ any time
-- Edited by oldtrack123 on Sunday 26th of June 2016 04:08:14 PM
i will have remote off/on but will power it off at inverter 99.99% of time. pity no smart inverters
Hi stoney123,
There are smart inverters. I have one and it is auto start when you switch something on !! It reverts to sleep mode normally. It is an old one though !
Jaahn