I really hope this is fair dinkum . The only drawback is a real downturn in the worlds economy as we are dependant on oil and weaning us off that will be a big ask
Going one step further why not recycle the exhaust air into another tank and go again surely a small stage compressor on the exhaust side would transfer the exhaust into another spare tank at pressure so in essence the system becomes a close loop with a never ending supply.. An alternator driven from the wheel or frontal fan would supply the battery charge for the electrics . Who would of thought this coming out of India Not me
Subject: Modern technology from India
What is this? Will it be the next big thing? Tata Motors of India thinks so. What will the Oil Companies do to stop it?
It is an auto engine that runs on air.
That's right; air not gas or diesel or electric but just the air around us. Take
a look. Tata Motors of India has scheduled the Air Car to hit Indian streets
The Air Car, developed by ex-Formula One engineer Guy N. For Luxembourg-based MDI,
uses compressed air to push its engine's pistons and make the car go. The Air Car, called the "Mini CAT" could cost around 365,757 rupees in India or $8,177 US. The Mini CAT which is a simple, light urban car, with a tubular chassis,
a body of fiberglass that is glued not welded and powered by compressed air.
A Microprocessor is used to control all electrical functions of the car.
One tiny radio transmitter sends instructions to the lights, turn signals
and every other electrical device on the car. Which are not many. The temperature of the clean air expelled by the exhaust pipe is between
0-15 degrees below zero, which makes it suitable for use by the
internal air conditioning system with no need for gases or loss of power. There are no keys, just an access card which can be read by the car from your pocket.
According to the designers, it costs less than 50 rupees per 100 KM,
that's about a tenth the cost of a car running on gas. It's mileage is about double
that of the most advanced electric car, a factor which makes it a perfect choice
for city motorists. The car has a top speed of 105 KM per hour or 60 mph and
would have a range of around 300 km or 185 miles between refuels.
Refilling the car will take place at adapted gas stations with special air compressors.
A fill up will only take two to three minutes and costs approximately
100 rupees ($1.78 CAD!) and the car will be ready to go another 300 kilometers. This car can also be filled at home with it's on board compressor.
It will take 3-4 hours to refill the tank, but it can be done while you sleep.
Because there is no combustion engine, changing the 1 liter of vegetable oil
is only necessary every 50,000 KM or 30,000 miles. Due to its simplicity, there is very little maintenance to be done on this car.
-- Edited by Wombat 280 on Friday 20th of May 2016 12:32:33 PM
-- Edited by Wombat 280 on Friday 20th of May 2016 12:34:05 PM
laurieoz said
01:49 PM May 20, 2016
I do not see the link to the article
Delta18 said
02:02 PM May 20, 2016
laurieoz wrote:
I do not see the link to the article
Google Tata Air Car & you will find enough links to keep you reading all day.
Wombat 280 said
05:14 PM May 20, 2016
laurieoz wrote:
I do not see the link to the article
I copied the entire article to the post didn't it come up on your screen , comes up on all of mine and others .. Take the time to track it down it's really worth the read and makes one think about oil alternatives . Sorry if it won't come up
dorian said
06:23 PM May 20, 2016
Wombat 280 wrote:
laurieoz wrote:
I do not see the link to the article
I copied the entire article to the post didn't it come up on your screen , comes up on all of mine and others .. Take the time to track it down it's really worth the read and makes one think about oil alternatives . Sorry if it won't come up
Copying an entire article without proper attribution is a questionable practice. For all we know, you could have simply cut-and-pasted some dubious viral email. Anyway, why should we all "take the time to track it down" when you can simply copy the link into your post?
In any case this announcement seems to have been making the news for several years. If Wikipedia can be believed, there are no such vehicles in production, except possibly hybrid types. To me it seems like vapourware, at least for the foreseeable future.
I would have thought in India that it would have an on board hand pump to refuel with air.
From my expience with an air powered sheep shearing hand piece it takes a takes a 15cf/m at 80 psi compressor to drive. Would expect a car would need more power than that to drive so would need a big air tank at very high pressure to be of any use.
Just my thoughts
Neil
Jaahn said
02:25 PM May 21, 2016
Hi Wombat 180,
I saw a good idea some time ago. It was to replace the motor in your tug with a big flywheel. Put a small electric motor to rev it up before you leave home. When you drive it can charge up down the hills and also use those " alternator driven from the wheel or frontal fan" to keep it going at speed.
Now if you believe this will work then go for it. It will save a fortune on the evil oil. Not sure how far you will get though Just as far as that Indian compressed air invention I would say.
Jaahn
vince56 said
01:22 PM May 24, 2016
Hi Wombat280,
As I recall compressed air engines have been around for many years but the compressed air must be replaced by an outside source.
Hindering the exhaust to recycle would cost more energy.
An alternator on a wheel would slow the wheel, more energy needed at the source.
A frontal fan would create more drag through the air therefore more energy required, you can see the logic.
One unshakable law is that you never get something for nothing.
I really hope this is fair dinkum . The only drawback is a real downturn in the worlds economy as we are dependant on oil and weaning us off that will be a big ask
Going one step further why not recycle the exhaust air into another tank and go again surely a small stage compressor on the exhaust side would transfer the exhaust into another spare tank at pressure so in essence the system becomes a close loop with a never ending supply.. An alternator driven from the wheel or frontal fan would supply the battery charge for the electrics . Who would of thought this coming out of India Not me
Subject: Modern technology from India
-- Edited by Wombat 280 on Friday 20th of May 2016 12:32:33 PM
-- Edited by Wombat 280 on Friday 20th of May 2016 12:34:05 PM
Google Tata Air Car & you will find enough links to keep you reading all day.
I copied the entire article to the post didn't it come up on your screen , comes up on all of mine and others .. Take the time to track it down it's really worth the read and makes one think about oil alternatives . Sorry if it won't come up
Copying an entire article without proper attribution is a questionable practice. For all we know, you could have simply cut-and-pasted some dubious viral email. Anyway, why should we all "take the time to track it down" when you can simply copy the link into your post?
In any case this announcement seems to have been making the news for several years. If Wikipedia can be believed, there are no such vehicles in production, except possibly hybrid types. To me it seems like vapourware, at least for the foreseeable future.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compressed_air_car
Here's an Australian design that runs on air:
http://www.drive.com.au/motor-news/the-motorbike-that-runs-on-air-20111103-1mwq2.html
I would have thought in India that it would have an on board hand pump to refuel with air.
From my expience with an air powered sheep shearing hand piece it takes a takes a 15cf/m at 80 psi compressor to drive. Would expect a car would need more power than that to drive so would need a big air tank at very high pressure to be of any use.
Just my thoughts
Neil
Hi Wombat 180,
I saw a good idea some time ago. It was to replace the motor in your tug with a big flywheel. Put a small electric motor to rev it up before you leave home. When you drive it can charge up down the hills and also use those " alternator driven from the wheel or frontal fan" to keep it going at speed.
Now if you believe this will work then go for it. It will save a fortune on the evil oil. Not sure how far you will get though
Just as far as that Indian compressed air invention I would say.
Jaahn
As I recall compressed air engines have been around for many years but the compressed air must be replaced by an outside source.
Hindering the exhaust to recycle would cost more energy.
An alternator on a wheel would slow the wheel, more energy needed at the source.
A frontal fan would create more drag through the air therefore more energy required, you can see the logic.
One unshakable law is that you never get something for nothing.
Cheers Vince