if all travellers bought a fruit tree twice a year to plant in a free camping area putting it out of the way, fellow travellers water (grey Water) in passing imagine what it would be like in a few years. Google species for that area.
I would think powers to be would think twice about closing free camp areas if we are giving some input to there area.
Just a thought.
Billy
kandagal said
07:46 PM May 18, 2016
Sounds like a good idea
Philw said
07:48 PM May 18, 2016
Awesome. We would all be jonny grey seeds. But really a good idea.
Dunmowin said
08:42 PM May 18, 2016
We travel with our own herb garden, and as we pass through state borders where they have issues with this (i.e. quarantine) we find a free camp before the quarantine bins, and plant what we have, then start again at the next plant nursery in the new state.
Would be interesting to go back to see if the herbs survive.
A site in Queensland, I think it was Baralaba, there were some veggies growing along the fence line, with a sign that said "water me please". and "help your self". We had tomatoes and pumpkins when we were there.
Welcome Billy, what a great idea
goldfinger said
09:14 PM May 18, 2016
Great idea Billy, however I don't know how pragmatic it would be with so many intent on destroying what they find rather than doing something constructive....
I recall in a certain smallish S.A. country Town which should remain nameless.......the front paddock, adjoining the main Road, of the local plumber, had signs 'help yourself' and there were glorious pumpkins of most varieties, tomatoes of most varieties, corn, and an amazing variety of other seeds the locals had ingested and then 'passed'.........he occasionally emptied the Town's septic tanks there....never actually planted/fertilized/watered anything he told me....now 'that' is what I call comprehensive 'recycling'......they certainly smelt and looked healthy...I always picked from the top branches.....lmao.....Hoo Roo
PeterD said
10:20 PM May 18, 2016
I suggest that that is a bad idea. The early explorers did just that and that is how many of the weeds got into the outback. I for one clear any of those things out when I see them to try to get the bush back to its original condition. I have a lot of friends that also do that.
Desert Dweller said
05:26 AM May 19, 2016
Introducing more foreign species of plant life into the already weed infested Aussie bush is a bit of a stupid idea. Look at how many apple trees are growing adjacent to rural roads where someone has thrown an apple core out of the car window after they've finished eating it. They provide food for feral introduced Starlings. There are three more points that I'd like to make: 1. It wouldn't make any difference to the powers that be if you planted a whole orchard, they are still going to close the place down. 2. As soon as the fruit ripens the birds would eat it within a day or so without being protected by netting. 3. Planting things on crown land is illegal without permission & would require a permit.
the rocket said
07:11 AM May 19, 2016
Hi goldfinger, i was impressed until i read the part about town septic. if people had been taking drugs for say cancer or any other ailment , then that drug would be in the urine and faeces. I shudder at the thought.
the rocket said
07:17 AM May 19, 2016
Hi billy botswarna, welcome to the foruM. Regards. Rocket n strop
-- Edited by the rocket on Thursday 19th of May 2016 07:18:29 AM
gumpybsc said
08:07 AM May 19, 2016
Hi Billy,
Welcome and good onya for the suggestion. Mixed opinions, however the good intentions behind the suggestion is what is important. Nomads need free camps and are happy to contribute to the camps in many ways they can, to look after them and their fellow travellers.
Regarding the 'powers to be', unfortunately many are stuck in their ways, and I suspect the aggressive attitude toward free camping in many local government areas is partly related to trying to cut down maintenance costs after cleaning up after many messy inconsiderate campers who leave their mess behind (mostly younger yahoos) and partly related to commercial interests in protecting the caravan park industry.
At best the example we can show is to leave without a trace, and even better to contribute something to the campsite (such as cleaning up someone else's mess) so that we leave the campsite is in better condition than it was when we arrived.
Phil C said
11:43 AM May 20, 2016
Gday Billy and welcome to the forum
Every post I have read here makes some sense, frankly I love the idea of a fruit tree at each free camp. Not sure I can see where a fruit tree is a weed, however I understand the comment.
I think rather than a fruit tree we all spend 10 mins cleaning up to keep them open. We recently visited a free camp at Baxter on the Eyre Hwy in WA, used the filthy dump point and spent a bucket of our grey water cleaning it up. The campsite was a litter of everything from toilet paper to yesterdays newspaper. So while I endorse your idea I think cleaning up after pigs is probably going to be a winner as well.
Safe travels
Sue & K said
12:12 PM May 22, 2016
Last weekend Hubby & I with a few friends and the owner camped up at 'The Walnuts', a beautiful free camping spot near Mitta Mitta for a few days and planted about a dozen or so young walnuts trees. We did so as the big walnut trees that have shaded countless campers for generations are slowly dying. So if your up that way please throw a bucket of water out of the creek their way. We know we probably won't be around to see them get to their full height but we do have the satisfaction of knowing future generation will enjoy them, Sue
Bryan said
01:32 PM May 22, 2016
billy botswana wrote:
Hi al ,
SUGGESTION.
Just put it in another site as well.
Free Camping Sites.
if all travellers bought a fruit tree twice a year to plant in a free camping area putting it out of the way, fellow travellers water (grey Water) in passing imagine what it would be like in a few years. Google species for that area.
I would think powers to be would think twice about closing free camp areas if we are giving some input to there area.
Just a thought.
Billy
Welcome to the site Billy. I think the basic idea is a great one and I applaud your thoughts of doing something positive for future generations to enjoy. Fruit tress may not be ideal for all locations but the idea of planting a tree is a sound one.
Hi al ,
SUGGESTION.
Just put it in another site as well.
Free Camping Sites.
if all travellers bought a fruit tree twice a year to plant in a free camping area putting it out of the way, fellow travellers water (grey Water) in passing imagine what it would be like in a few years. Google species for that area.
I would think powers to be would think twice about closing free camp areas if we are giving some input to there area.
Just a thought.
Billy
We travel with our own herb garden, and as we pass through state borders where they have issues with this (i.e. quarantine) we find a free camp before the quarantine bins, and plant what we have, then start again at the next plant nursery in the new state.
Would be interesting to go back to see if the herbs survive.
A site in Queensland, I think it was Baralaba, there were some veggies growing along the fence line, with a sign that said "water me please". and "help your self". We had tomatoes and pumpkins when we were there.
Welcome Billy, what a great idea
I recall in a certain smallish S.A. country Town which should remain nameless.......the front paddock, adjoining the main Road, of the local plumber, had signs 'help yourself' and there were glorious pumpkins of most varieties, tomatoes of most varieties, corn, and an amazing variety of other seeds the locals had ingested and then 'passed'.........he occasionally emptied the Town's septic tanks there....never actually planted/fertilized/watered anything he told me....now 'that' is what I call comprehensive 'recycling'......they certainly smelt and looked healthy...I always picked from the top branches.....lmao.....Hoo Roo
I suggest that that is a bad idea. The early explorers did just that and that is how many of the weeds got into the outback. I for one clear any of those things out when I see them to try to get the bush back to its original condition. I have a lot of friends that also do that.
Hi goldfinger, i was impressed until i read the part about town septic. if people had been taking drugs for say cancer or any other ailment , then that drug would be in the urine and faeces. I shudder at the thought.
Hi billy botswarna, welcome to the foruM. Regards. Rocket n strop
-- Edited by the rocket on Thursday 19th of May 2016 07:18:29 AM
Hi Billy,
Welcome and good onya for the suggestion. Mixed opinions, however the good intentions behind the suggestion is what is important. Nomads need free camps and are happy to contribute to the camps in many ways they can, to look after them and their fellow travellers.
Regarding the 'powers to be', unfortunately many are stuck in their ways, and I suspect the aggressive attitude toward free camping in many local government areas is partly related to trying to cut down maintenance costs after cleaning up after many messy inconsiderate campers who leave their mess behind (mostly younger yahoos) and partly related to commercial interests in protecting the caravan park industry.
At best the example we can show is to leave without a trace, and even better to contribute something to the campsite (such as cleaning up someone else's mess) so that we leave the campsite is in better condition than it was when we arrived.
Every post I have read here makes some sense, frankly I love the idea of a fruit tree at each free camp. Not sure I can see where a fruit tree is a weed, however I understand the comment.
I think rather than a fruit tree we all spend 10 mins cleaning up to keep them open. We recently visited a free camp at Baxter on the Eyre Hwy in WA, used the filthy dump point and spent a bucket of our grey water cleaning it up. The campsite was a litter of everything from toilet paper to yesterdays newspaper. So while I endorse your idea I think cleaning up after pigs is probably going to be a winner as well.
Safe travels
Last weekend Hubby & I with a few friends and the owner camped up at 'The Walnuts', a beautiful free camping spot near Mitta Mitta for a few days and planted about a dozen or so young walnuts trees. We did so as the big walnut trees that have shaded countless campers for generations are slowly dying. So if your up that way please throw a bucket of water out of the creek their way. We know we probably won't be around to see them get to their full height but we do have the satisfaction of knowing future generation will enjoy them, Sue
Welcome to the site Billy. I think the basic idea is a great one and I applaud your thoughts of doing something positive for future generations to enjoy. Fruit tress may not be ideal for all locations but the idea of planting a tree is a sound one.