I have been thinking about and need to do some research though.
I just watched an episode of a Pommie show on Foxtel about a 1903 Vintage car for the run in the London Brighton Rally.
It had a problem with overheating. A very rudimentary water pump set up.
Basically they renewed some internals and refilled using a waterless coolant. Ran for half an hour and the temp was stable at 95 degrees. Measured by an infra red Thermocouple. Boiling temp of coolant was 190 so well under the max. Very interesting so I will be investigating for myself.
Jaahn said
04:42 PM May 14, 2016
Hi
There must be a couple of million engineers working on the design of motors. None have produced a motor using this stuff for original use. Not one AFSAIK.
BUT there is always a smart salesman who can reinvent the wheel and sell it to some people. Easier now with Utube and the internet. I have a good looking bridge if you are interested ??
Just my professional opinion really
Jaahn
wasn_me said
05:29 PM May 14, 2016
Totally agree Jaahn, all engine componets & operating effeciency are affected by engine coolant temperature. Engine oil works most efficiently at this engine temperature. The optimum engine coolant temp is 90 degrees C.
Vehicle engineers put a lot of research into the best product for their vehicle. Stick with the OEM product. My opinion.
Cheers Pete
Yuglamron said
07:16 PM May 14, 2016
First ELECTRIC car designed and built in 1898,
Honda trashed all their early electric cars in the sixties putting back the design and use of Electric cars by forty years plus.
Ceramic engine components trashed in the seventies because they used no oil to lubricate the engine.
Nulon products to help lubrication Good or not?
Synthetic oils........ Good or not?
The list goes on and on.
On the down side
Glyphosphates shown to be Carcinogenic. A World Health Organisation report.
Still on sale today.
Aspartame the same but known for twenty plus years. Still sold.
Asbestos...... We all know about how long they pulled that one.
Not every advance is good but if we don't have advances we wouldn't get ahead.
Coolants were water based because they can take heat away from the engine and be cooled in a radiator.. Agreed.
Water is also very corrosive... Rust/Electrolysis etc.
Take a liquid that takes away the heat and can be cooled in the radiator with no corrosive properties..... A No Brainer in my opinion.
DeBe said
07:46 PM May 14, 2016
Looking at there site it appears to be an Expensive Glycol coolant. Have found as a mechanic that 50% Glycol water mix coolant to be very effective over the years, & doesn't corrode systems at all. And isn't expensive to change every 4 Yrs. The only time ive found systems have corroded in vehicles, is due to neglect.
Jaahn said
09:49 AM May 15, 2016
DeBe wrote:
Looking at there site it appears to be an Expensive Glycol coolant. Have found as a mechanic that 50% Glycol water mix coolant to be very effective over the years, & doesn't corrode systems at all. And isn't expensive to change every 4 Yrs. The only time ive found systems have corroded in vehicles, is due to neglect.
Hi
When I was working on cars in the '60s I was blown away with the 'new' coolant technology in Renaults with the sealed systems and gycol/water/ anti corrosive agents. They were just so clean in the alloy heads when pulled apart. The old style motors cast iron or alloy were always rusty and any alloy corroded. I learnt then the benefits and have used proper designed coolants since with NO PROBLEMS. Just as DeBe said.
However people may choose to use whatever they like ! But remember that the water in the mix is much more effective at moving the heat to the radiator than the glycol. That is a fact and could be verified by some more internet research if you care to look for it. That is why the existing mix is still used. The only change in recent times is in the anti corrosion chemical packages. And mostly to do with using more environmentally friendly chemicals that are just as effective. IMHO
As far as watching some video to show a product works. Snake oil sellers have been around for ever. Which of these two made the difference "Basically they renewed some internals and refilled using a waterless coolant " ????????? I think I know the answer but you may think otherwise. Actually we are both guessing watching a video.
Jaahn
-- Edited by Jaahn on Sunday 15th of May 2016 09:53:35 AM
who uses Evans waterless coolant
dibs
I have been thinking about and need to do some research though.
I just watched an episode of a Pommie show on Foxtel about a 1903 Vintage car for the run in the London Brighton Rally.
It had a problem with overheating. A very rudimentary water pump set up.
Basically they renewed some internals and refilled using a waterless coolant. Ran for half an hour and the temp was stable at 95 degrees. Measured by an infra red Thermocouple. Boiling temp of coolant was 190 so well under the max. Very interesting so I will be investigating for myself.
Hi
There must be a couple of million engineers working on the design of motors. None have produced a motor using this stuff for original use. Not one AFSAIK.
BUT there is always a smart salesman who can reinvent the wheel and sell it to some people. Easier now with Utube and the internet. I have a good looking bridge if you are interested ??
Just my professional opinion really
Jaahn
First ELECTRIC car designed and built in 1898,
Honda trashed all their early electric cars in the sixties putting back the design and use of Electric cars by forty years plus.
Ceramic engine components trashed in the seventies because they used no oil to lubricate the engine.
Nulon products to help lubrication Good or not?
Synthetic oils........ Good or not?
The list goes on and on.
On the down side
Glyphosphates shown to be Carcinogenic. A World Health Organisation report.
Still on sale today.
Aspartame the same but known for twenty plus years. Still sold.
Asbestos...... We all know about how long they pulled that one.
Not every advance is good but if we don't have advances we wouldn't get ahead.
Coolants were water based because they can take heat away from the engine and be cooled in a radiator.. Agreed.
Water is also very corrosive... Rust/Electrolysis etc.
Take a liquid that takes away the heat and can be cooled in the radiator with no corrosive properties..... A No Brainer in my opinion.
Looking at there site it appears to be an Expensive Glycol coolant. Have found as a mechanic that 50% Glycol water mix coolant to be very effective over the years, & doesn't corrode systems at all. And isn't expensive to change every 4 Yrs. The only time ive found systems have corroded in vehicles, is due to neglect.
Hi
When I was working on cars in the '60s I was blown away with the 'new' coolant technology in Renaults with the sealed systems and gycol/water/ anti corrosive agents. They were just so clean in the alloy heads when pulled apart. The old style motors cast iron or alloy were always rusty and any alloy corroded. I learnt then the benefits and have used proper designed coolants since with NO PROBLEMS.
Just as DeBe said.
However people may choose to use whatever they like ! But remember that the water in the mix is much more effective at moving the heat to the radiator than the glycol. That is a fact and could be verified by some more internet research if you care to look for it.
That is why the existing mix is still used. The only change in recent times is in the anti corrosion chemical packages. And mostly to do with using more environmentally friendly chemicals that are just as effective. IMHO
As far as watching some video to show a product works. Snake oil sellers have been around for ever. Which of these two made the difference "Basically they renewed some internals and refilled using a waterless coolant " ????????? I think I know the answer but you may think otherwise. Actually we are both guessing watching a video.
Jaahn
-- Edited by Jaahn on Sunday 15th of May 2016 09:53:35 AM