Hi With us living in the driest continent why aren't we putting our grey water on the ground where its needed ,hasn't someone come up with a filter that traps the bits and pieces from the sink that's easy cleaned,and lets the water thru as we use little dertergent and a body wash in the shower,im often asked by park owners to put my waste water on the garden for them,.got to be better than pouring it down the drain.mike g g
aussie_paul said
06:54 PM Mar 28, 2016
mike g g wrote:
Hi With us living in the driest continent why aren't we putting our grey water on the ground where its needed ,hasn't someone come up with a filter that traps the bits and pieces from the sink that's easy cleaned,and lets the water thru as we use little dertergent and a body wash in the shower,im often asked by park owners to put my waste water on the garden for them,.got to be better than pouring it down the drain.mike g g
Totally agree.
Aussie Paul.
KFT said
07:46 PM Mar 28, 2016
I agree too
We have a "frog stopper" on the end of our hose that also traps all the bits that do manage to get down the sink. I pull it off now and then and empty it into the bin.
Was at a RV rest area recently that could have done with a good watering BUT, rules said no grey water on the ground.
Frank
rockylizard said
07:53 PM Mar 28, 2016
Gday...
And thereby hangs the tale, Mike
The need to contain grey water depends totally on where you park your van and "camp" ... and maybe for how long.
There are an increasing number of 'rest areas', particularly along the east coast, that are being declared, and enforced, by local councils as "fully self-contained only" places to stop.
It is little wonder, as these 'rest areas' suffer the overwhelming popularity of the thousands of RVers travelling along the major highways between March and October - crowding in (wanting a free night's sleep) and creating a soggy, greasy mess for the locals to wade through when they want to make use of their 'council provided recreation area'.
Many other towns that allow short term parking, or "camping", are also beginning to nominate that parking on their 'rest areas' is only available for "fully self-contained" RVs - vans and motorhomes - and some campervans - those that can at least 'contain' their 'grey & black" water and take it with them.
However, if you travel mainly (exclusively?) inland to the smaller towns that don't have the constant, overwhelming, volume of RVs parking in, or near, their towns, you will find that the need to be "fully self-contained" is not as common nor as fiercely policed.
Indeed, most inland towns, including van parks and camping grounds (not 'rest areas') welcome the discharge of 'grey water' on their trees and grass - it is often the only water their trees, plants and grass get.
I guess, you should have some way of 'containing' your 'grey water' - eg at minimum, a sealable container such as a 10ltr/20ltr drum/jerry can that can catch all your 'grey water'. Then you can catch it, carry it to a 'suitable' discharge point and comply. Obviously, you would have a 'toilet cassette' that contains your 'black water' for EVERY place you camp/stop which you then discharge at a 'dump point' when you get to one.
Cheers - and welcome to the world of being an RVer - John
Tony Bev said
08:40 PM Mar 28, 2016
KFT wrote:
I agree too
We have a "frog stopper" on the end of our hose that also traps all the bits that do manage to get down the sink. I pull it off now and then and empty it into the bin.
Was at a RV rest area recently that could have done with a good watering BUT, rules said no grey water on the ground.
Frank
Hello KFT (Frank) and everyone
Frank I will assume, and could therefore be wrong, that a Frog stopper is some sort of mesh filter. Can you buy them, or are they home made?
At present we (err the boss), will wipe the dishes with a paper towel, and then clean them in a dish within the sink. There is very little food scraps that would make it into the grey water tank.
I place the grey water on a tree/s or bush/es, well away from the camp area
Also like most other reasonable travellers, if there is a self contained vehicles only sign, I will only drop the grey water in a dump point
Hey Jim said
08:56 PM Mar 28, 2016
Hi John,
Your on the money in every way.
That's why we have gone with the self containment. Plus one extra mod to drain ours direct to a bucket or use of our GW hoses. A win win for us.
Jim & Lambie
KFT said
09:10 PM Mar 28, 2016
Our "frog stopper" is home made from a bit of 40mm pipe with a cap on the end and a series of 10mm holes drilled in it. catches anything that gets past the sink strainer but lets the water out ok.
Tony Bev said
09:47 PM Mar 28, 2016
KFT wrote:
Our "frog stopper" is home made from a bit of 40mm pipe with a cap on the end and a series of 10mm holes drilled in it. catches anything that gets past the sink strainer but lets the water out ok.
Hello KFT (Frank)
Thanks for that information Frank, it is appreciated, I shall make myself one
KFT said
10:28 PM Mar 28, 2016
Tony Bev wrote:
KFT wrote:
Our "frog stopper" is home made from a bit of 40mm pipe with a cap on the end and a series of 10mm holes drilled in it. catches anything that gets past the sink strainer but lets the water out ok.
Hello KFT (Frank)
Thanks for that information Frank, it is appreciated, I shall make myself one
Hey Tony
it also stops frogs from getting up my drain pipe.
Tony Bev said
11:05 PM Mar 28, 2016
KFT wrote:
Tony Bev wrote:
KFT wrote:
Our "frog stopper" is home made from a bit of 40mm pipe with a cap on the end and a series of 10mm holes drilled in it. catches anything that gets past the sink strainer but lets the water out ok.
Hello KFT (Frank)
Thanks for that information Frank, it is appreciated, I shall make myself one
Hey Tony
it also stops frogs from getting up my drain pipe.
Hello KFT (Frank)
In all honesty I had never given a thought about frogs climbing up the drain pipe.
At present, at the end of my grey water pipe, I have a 25 mm plastic ball valve, with a screwed in 25 mm plastic barrel union, and then a screwed in 25 mm plastic 90o elbow
When I am not using a bucket to empty the grey water, I remove half of the barrel union with the elbow, and attach the drain hose (with its own half barrel union), at the barrel union.
I can now visualise that the elbow and the barrel union, would be a nice seat for a small frog to hitch a ride. I shall rectify this before my next trip. So thanks for that information
Sarge9 said
01:17 PM Mar 29, 2016
I too agree, but I think I understand that we (and our leaders) can not trust our fellow man..... biggest risk is to the health of others..... a bit of sink water should not be a problem but we have all seen or heard of what some people will do in a sink.... maybe just even some denture wash water.... someone else just minutes after the last person leaves gets contaminated water on them or their kids rubber ball or on their shoes.... e-coli/gastro, Hep A or B or C, Cholera??? Probably nothing more than a wet hand/ball/shoe but who can afford to take the risk.
Ever wondered why the Melbourne Metropolitan Board of Works no longer has the Country's best market garden or Angus beef herds.... same reason, apparently some nasty germs can persist even after all the processing and time separation they went through.
And that does not include shower water.... we all know what other people do in showers. Swimming pool back wash water has to be dealt with through gravel pits etc underground just in case a 3 (or 63) year had a whoopsie accident.
I can only hope the trees in need get a discrete drop or two.
Sarge
mike g g said
01:44 PM Mar 29, 2016
thanks the project is a frog stopper great idea.mikeg
mike g g said
01:46 PM Mar 29, 2016
Hi Sarge like the acco drove one for a while ,twin stick bogie.
Hi With us living in the driest continent why aren't we putting our grey water on the ground where its needed ,hasn't someone come up with a filter that traps the bits and pieces from the sink that's easy cleaned,and lets the water thru as we use little dertergent and a body wash in the shower,im often asked by park owners to put my waste water on the garden for them,.got to be better than pouring it down the drain.mike g g
Totally agree.
Aussie Paul.
We have a "frog stopper" on the end of our hose that also traps all the bits that do manage to get down the sink. I pull it off now and then and empty it into the bin.
Was at a RV rest area recently that could have done with a good watering BUT, rules said no grey water on the ground.
Frank
Gday...
And thereby hangs the tale, Mike
The need to contain grey water depends totally on where you park your van and "camp" ... and maybe for how long.
There are an increasing number of 'rest areas', particularly along the east coast, that are being declared, and enforced, by local councils as "fully self-contained only" places to stop.
It is little wonder, as these 'rest areas' suffer the overwhelming popularity of the thousands of RVers travelling along the major highways between March and October - crowding in (wanting a free night's sleep) and creating a soggy, greasy mess for the locals to wade through when they want to make use of their 'council provided recreation area'.
Many other towns that allow short term parking, or "camping", are also beginning to nominate that parking on their 'rest areas' is only available for "fully self-contained" RVs - vans and motorhomes - and some campervans - those that can at least 'contain' their 'grey & black" water and take it with them.
However, if you travel mainly (exclusively?) inland to the smaller towns that don't have the constant, overwhelming, volume of RVs parking in, or near, their towns, you will find that the need to be "fully self-contained" is not as common nor as fiercely policed.
Indeed, most inland towns, including van parks and camping grounds (not 'rest areas') welcome the discharge of 'grey water' on their trees and grass - it is often the only water their trees, plants and grass get.
I guess, you should have some way of 'containing' your 'grey water' - eg at minimum, a sealable container such as a 10ltr/20ltr drum/jerry can that can catch all your 'grey water'. Then you can catch it, carry it to a 'suitable' discharge point and comply. Obviously, you would have a 'toilet cassette' that contains your 'black water' for EVERY place you camp/stop which you then discharge at a 'dump point' when you get to one.
Cheers - and welcome to the world of being an RVer
- John
Hello KFT (Frank) and everyone
Frank I will assume, and could therefore be wrong, that a Frog stopper is some sort of mesh filter. Can you buy them, or are they home made?
At present we (err the boss), will wipe the dishes with a paper towel, and then clean them in a dish within the sink. There is very little food scraps that would make it into the grey water tank.
I place the grey water on a tree/s or bush/es, well away from the camp area
Also like most other reasonable travellers, if there is a self contained vehicles only sign, I will only drop the grey water in a dump point
Hi John,
Your on the money in every way.
That's why we have gone with the self containment. Plus one extra mod to drain ours direct to a bucket or use of our GW hoses. A win win for us.
Jim & Lambie
Our "frog stopper" is home made from a bit of 40mm pipe with a cap on the end and a series of 10mm holes drilled in it. catches anything that gets past the sink strainer but lets the water out ok.
Hello KFT (Frank)
Thanks for that information Frank, it is appreciated, I shall make myself one
Hey Tony
it also stops frogs from getting up my drain pipe.
Hello KFT (Frank)
In all honesty I had never given a thought about frogs climbing up the drain pipe.
At present, at the end of my grey water pipe, I have a 25 mm plastic ball valve, with a screwed in 25 mm plastic barrel union, and then a screwed in 25 mm plastic 90o elbow
When I am not using a bucket to empty the grey water, I remove half of the barrel union with the elbow, and attach the drain hose (with its own half barrel union), at the barrel union.
I can now visualise that the elbow and the barrel union, would be a nice seat for a small frog to hitch a ride. I shall rectify this before my next trip. So thanks for that information
I too agree, but I think I understand that we (and our leaders) can not trust our fellow man..... biggest risk is to the health of others..... a bit of sink water should not be a problem but we have all seen or heard of what some people will do in a sink.... maybe just even some denture wash water.... someone else just minutes after the last person leaves gets contaminated water on them or their kids rubber ball or on their shoes.... e-coli/gastro, Hep A or B or C, Cholera??? Probably nothing more than a wet hand/ball/shoe but who can afford to take the risk.
Ever wondered why the Melbourne Metropolitan Board of Works no longer has the Country's best market garden or Angus beef herds.... same reason, apparently some nasty germs can persist even after all the processing and time separation they went through.
And that does not include shower water.... we all know what other people do in showers. Swimming pool back wash water has to be dealt with through gravel pits etc underground just in case a 3 (or 63) year had a whoopsie accident.
I can only hope the trees in need get a discrete drop or two.
Sarge
thanks the project is a frog stopper great idea.mikeg
Hi Sarge like the acco drove one for a while ,twin stick bogie.