Has anybody got an opinion on these "new" curved mirrors fitted as standard issue to some / most new cars?
My new vehicle has both side view mirrors indicating that a following vehicle is much further behind than it actually is.
I don't like these mirrors one little bit. Just wondering why we need them or are they a compulsory part of the A.D.R.?
Have fun Haji-Baba
Hey Jim said
10:56 PM Mar 20, 2016
Hi Jeff,
If you don't like them, you can change them to standard flat 3mm mirrored float. ring your local Glazier $40 in the poor box.
Jim
blissonwheels said
06:33 AM Mar 21, 2016
Gooday,
Encountered these on both sides when we bought a new Jeep Commander in 2006. Phoned the dealer and asked him about it, said it was now legal under Aust Design Rules.
Hated them and still do, went to a bloke and had them replaced with flat glass, NOT a good move, the mirrors are reduced in physical size when they put these convex glasses in, put in flat glass and you have the other result where your vision is reduced with the flat glass, reduced field of vision.
Broke the left side glass a few years later, went back to my Mirror Man & he still had the original Convex glasses so I got him to put them back in as I had the ClearView by then.
I searched around the internet and found a product called an All-View Mirror in the US. Imported one, think it cost me $60-00 at the time with postage. Solved all my problems.
They are 15 ˝ inches long and clip over the existing internal rear view mirror very slight curve, but such terrific field of view, I can see up to & including the passengers head. Now I just check the side mirrors and then double check in the AllView to get a correct position of the following vehicle.
We brought a consignment of 20 in to sell later on and was hard work convincing people of their value. Also have one on our Suzuki Swift and would not be with out it, on the odd occasion we Rent a car I take one with me and clip it on during the rental.
Link above the Clip on model is the one we have, see they have gone up in price.
GOOD Rear Vision Mirrors an INVESTMENT IN SAFETY,NOT A COST.
Cheers,
Bliss on Wheels.
Ozzie_Traveller said
07:51 PM Mar 21, 2016
G'day mate
I'm with Jim here ... we have refitted the original mirrors with flat mirror glass glued onto the original ones
I first got a piece of paper and pushed it onto the mirror to get an approx outline, then cut a cardboard template which I took to a glass merchant
So for under $20 I now have 'regular' flat mirrors and love 'em
The 3 car mirrors are now aligned so that
a) the internal mirror goes straight down the road behind,
b) the left [and right] mirror/s are swung about 30deg outwards so that they just overlap the internal one at the edges
It gives me about 150 degrees coverage, left lane + behind + right lane and it all works beaut
Hope this helps a bit
Phil
Haji-Baba said
09:49 PM Mar 21, 2016
Thanks Jim, B on W and O.T. Just the sort of info I needed.
I can't for the life of me get used to these new mirrors and can't find any rules that state we have to have them.
I have searched all over the net and Gov. departments for a simple yes or no and it ain't there. Or at least I can't find it.
The A.D.R. makes for a lot of reading but no stated rule about flat or curved mirrors.
So I think I will swap over to flat glass and be done with it.
I have about 70 years of driving experience so far and never a prang from behind. One slight ding but not my fault.
Thanks again.
Have fun Haji-Baba
Haji-Baba said
09:57 PM Mar 21, 2016
I should have stated that The Northern Territory legislation calls for the right hand external mirror to be "Flat Glass."
That was today and the only reference I have that may be legal. ?????????????
I am not sure if that applies only to passenger type vehicles. Trucks maybe different.
Has anybody got an opinion on these "new" curved mirrors fitted as standard issue to some / most new cars?
My new vehicle has both side view mirrors indicating that a following vehicle is much further behind than it actually is.
I don't like these mirrors one little bit. Just wondering why we need them or are they a compulsory part of the A.D.R.?
Have fun Haji-Baba
Hi Jeff,
If you don't like them, you can change them to standard flat 3mm mirrored float. ring your local Glazier $40 in the poor box.
Jim
Gooday,
Encountered these on both sides when we bought a new Jeep Commander in 2006. Phoned the dealer and asked him about it, said it was now legal under Aust Design Rules.
Hated them and still do, went to a bloke and had them replaced with flat glass, NOT a good move, the mirrors are reduced in physical size when they put these convex glasses in, put in flat glass and you have the other result where your vision is reduced with the flat glass, reduced field of vision.
Broke the left side glass a few years later, went back to my Mirror Man & he still had the original Convex glasses so I got him to put them back in as I had the ClearView by then.
I searched around the internet and found a product called an All-View Mirror in the US. Imported one, think it cost me $60-00 at the time with postage. Solved all my problems.
They are 15 ˝ inches long and clip over the existing internal rear view mirror very slight curve, but such terrific field of view, I can see up to & including the passengers head. Now I just check the side mirrors and then double check in the AllView to get a correct position of the following vehicle.
We brought a consignment of 20 in to sell later on and was hard work convincing people of their value. Also have one on our Suzuki Swift and would not be with out it, on the odd occasion we Rent a car I take one with me and clip it on during the rental.
The ALLVIEW Mirror System | SEE WHAT YOU'VE BEEN ...
Link above the Clip on model is the one we have, see they have gone up in price.
GOOD Rear Vision Mirrors an INVESTMENT IN SAFETY,NOT A COST.
Cheers,
Bliss on Wheels.
I'm with Jim here ... we have refitted the original mirrors with flat mirror glass glued onto the original ones
I first got a piece of paper and pushed it onto the mirror to get an approx outline, then cut a cardboard template which I took to a glass merchant
So for under $20 I now have 'regular' flat mirrors and love 'em
The 3 car mirrors are now aligned so that
a) the internal mirror goes straight down the road behind,
b) the left [and right] mirror/s are swung about 30deg outwards so that they just overlap the internal one at the edges
It gives me about 150 degrees coverage, left lane + behind + right lane and it all works beaut
Hope this helps a bit
Phil
I can't for the life of me get used to these new mirrors and can't find any rules that state we have to have them.
I have searched all over the net and Gov. departments for a simple yes or no and it ain't there. Or at least I can't find it.
The A.D.R. makes for a lot of reading but no stated rule about flat or curved mirrors.
So I think I will swap over to flat glass and be done with it.
I have about 70 years of driving experience so far and never a prang from behind. One slight ding but not my fault.
Thanks again.
Have fun Haji-Baba
I should have stated that The Northern Territory legislation calls for the right hand external mirror to be "Flat Glass."
That was today and the only reference I have that may be legal. ?????????????
I am not sure if that applies only to passenger type vehicles. Trucks maybe different.
Have more fun Haji-Baba