G-Day all . On Thursday decided to check wheel bearing on the van that we had purchased last June and at the time were told it had been fully serviced. We have done about 4000 kms since. Took left wheel off first and all ok.
Went to take drivers side off, found 2 studs that were hard to undo, 2 easy and 1 that was stripped. Had to get a grinder and cut the stud in half then break off. Great fun. Would have been nice 100 kms
from anywhere with a flat tyre. Yep and you can guess very little grease. Guess they could not get studs undone but said nothing to us.
Part 2.
Went to get new studs from a national car parts company . Yes ,how many would you like, 5 please, ok $50.00 . (ford studs) Well Ned Kelly is still alive in Cairns. Left them there, went to a
trailer parts supplier, 5 studs $ 12.00 thanks.
blaze said
07:12 PM Feb 20, 2016
the first ones would have been quality and at least a grade 5, maybe grade 8 tensile strength and the others would have the tensile strength of butter.
cheers
blaze
Hey Jim said
07:16 PM Feb 20, 2016
Go to Weckers $5.00 or free
Jim
Woody2 said
08:31 PM Feb 20, 2016
Hey Jim did go to weckers sent me to the trailer place.
blaze replyed to you in your topic.
Do not what to start a barney, came to this site because we are new to caravanning and would like to learn from others
and see this great country.
blaze said
09:35 PM Feb 20, 2016
Get your new stud and put them on a grinding wheel parallel to the stone and give them a light grind, do your old studs and the new studs and you will notice a distinct color different in the sparks, that will help determine the quality of the steel. I have been around this site from not long after it was formed, I don't make many post as seen by my post count and I certainly don't post to upset members, new or old, when I post it is to try and help and pass on some hard earned and learned knowledge
cheers
blaze
ps
take it as you will
Baz421 said
10:17 PM Feb 20, 2016
I think you being a bit over the top here Blaze.
I did a cursory search of wheel studs 8.8 or higher grade with rolled threads, available in Oz and prices were (typically) $3-5-7 EACH up to $190 each for racers, so I would suggest that PRICE IS NOT THE PARAMETER you are suggesting, and in all likelihood Woody has the correct grade studs.
How on earth do you expect a lay person to determine quality/strength by the sparks from grinding. We were taught this years ago and now 40 years later I would struggle to remember.
It's not a matter of upsetting anyone IMHO it's the QUALITY OF POSTS.
My 2 cents worth.
Bevandy2 said
11:47 PM Feb 20, 2016
Vital part of the equipment, with things like wheel studs you don't go by price.
Car accessory places probably have all sorts of rubbish made in China, studs, bolts etc are marked according to tensile strength, trailer makers, or truckies companies would be more likely to give you the best advice.
Once the correct items are fitted, always good to use a tension wrench for tightening, but you must find out the correct tension for that sized stud.
Over tightening stretches them and they eventually break.
I just recently bought a set of new studs for the OKA which has 8 per wheel = 32 studs @ $17.50 EACH. Yes, there were much cheaper ones available.
Cheers, Peter
Robshep said
08:02 AM Feb 22, 2016
Know all about stripped wheel studs on van!
Photos show the result of studs sheering off.
Had a new tyre fitted in Esperance WA and nuts were torqued to the recommended 110nm.
A couple of days later, 360kms west of Norseman, the wheel parted company with the van.
RACV Total Care to the rescue (never leave home without it); van was flat bedded the 360kms back to Norseman where repairs were made.
General consensus was that the weight of the van was being borne by the studs, rather than being borne by the hub.
Replaced both sets of studs ($5.60 ea.) and nuts ($2.00 ea.) and had spacers made up and fitted to both hubs; the weight is now borne by the hubs, not the studs.
New wheel and tyre cost $350.00.
Seems to have cured the problem as nothing has fallen off during the 6000kms travelled since.
G-Day all . On Thursday decided to check wheel bearing on the van that we had purchased last June and at the time were told it had been fully serviced. We have done about 4000 kms since. Took left wheel off first and all ok.
Went to take drivers side off, found 2 studs that were hard to undo, 2 easy and 1 that was stripped. Had to get a grinder and cut the stud in half then break off. Great fun. Would have been nice 100 kms
from anywhere with a flat tyre. Yep and you can guess very little grease. Guess they could not get studs undone but said nothing to us.
Part 2.
Went to get new studs from a national car parts company . Yes ,how many would you like, 5 please, ok $50.00 . (ford studs) Well Ned Kelly is still alive in Cairns. Left them there, went to a
trailer parts supplier, 5 studs $ 12.00 thanks.
cheers
blaze
Go to Weckers $5.00 or free
Jim
blaze replyed to you in your topic.
Do not what to start a barney, came to this site because we are new to caravanning and would like to learn from others
and see this great country.
cheers
blaze
ps
take it as you will
I think you being a bit over the top here Blaze.
I did a cursory search of wheel studs 8.8 or higher grade with rolled threads, available in Oz and prices were (typically) $3-5-7 EACH up to $190 each for racers, so I would suggest that PRICE IS NOT THE PARAMETER you are suggesting, and in all likelihood Woody has the correct grade studs.
How on earth do you expect a lay person to determine quality/strength by the sparks from grinding. We were taught this years ago and now 40 years later I would struggle to remember.
It's not a matter of upsetting anyone IMHO it's the QUALITY OF POSTS.
My 2 cents worth.
Car accessory places probably have all sorts of rubbish made in China, studs, bolts etc are marked according to tensile strength, trailer makers, or truckies companies would be more likely to give you the best advice.
Once the correct items are fitted, always good to use a tension wrench for tightening, but you must find out the correct tension for that sized stud.
Over tightening stretches them and they eventually break.
http://caravanandmotorhomebooks.com/why-wheels-fall-off-caravans/
I just recently bought a set of new studs for the OKA which has 8 per wheel = 32 studs @ $17.50 EACH.
Yes, there were much cheaper ones available.
Cheers,
Peter
Know all about stripped wheel studs on van!
Photos show the result of studs sheering off.
Had a new tyre fitted in Esperance WA and nuts were torqued to the recommended 110nm.
A couple of days later, 360kms west of Norseman, the wheel parted company with the van.
RACV Total Care to the rescue (never leave home without it); van was flat bedded the 360kms back to Norseman where repairs were made.
General consensus was that the weight of the van was being borne by the studs, rather than being borne by the hub.
Replaced both sets of studs ($5.60 ea.) and nuts ($2.00 ea.) and had spacers made up and fitted to both hubs; the weight is now borne by the hubs, not the studs.
New wheel and tyre cost $350.00.
Seems to have cured the problem as nothing has fallen off during the 6000kms travelled since.