Just wondering what everyone's opinion is on rubbish disposal specifically for long term GNs ?
Ive done plenty of short term camping (1 to 4 weeks sort of thing) and rubbish disposal has not been a problem . Its either been disposing of small amounts of rubbish in camp ground/CP provided bins or simply save it up and take it home for disposal. As we are soon to become full time nomads and will be doing predominately free camping the take home option is not there . I was reading an article recently that bemoaned the disposal of rubbish by long term campers in places like roadside bins , skip bins owned by others etc. I can understand this , clearly long term campers will have more to dispose of and it would be unfair to others if I was to fill a roadside bin, for instance , with a weeks worth of rubbish.
Clearly rubbish responses to this thread are ok
Cheers Al
Aus-Kiwi said
12:49 PM Jan 11, 2016
Yep as I've often said . We free camp and leave NO reason to be dobbed in for anything . Not just me but for fellow campers .. Even to the point of cleaning up others mess .. It's more the back packers or bogan locals that leave mess ..
Happywanderer said
01:16 PM Jan 11, 2016
Take it with you until you find suitable disposal area. Some places will provide large skips as in Greens Lake where there are 3 good sized ones.
Others as in East boat ramp in Echuca, have one very large skip at the moment which is full to over flowing, but mainly from locals household rubbish as in sofas, mattresses, picture frames etc. Should be used for the campers looking for somewhere to dump.
Then there are normal rubbish bins either in campsites or road side stops, only leave rubbish there if there is room in the bins. No point leaving a black bag full on the ground beside bin for the crows to attack and spread around the area.
Oxley said
03:24 PM Jan 11, 2016
I find most smaller towns have a free waste transfer station or similar, though some are marked for locals only, I figure at most I'm only dropping off a small bag and recyclables, I figure if that want to fine me....
Swoffer said
03:34 PM Jan 11, 2016
Oxley wrote:
I find most smaller towns have a free waste transfer station or similar, though some are marked for locals only, I figure at most I'm only dropping off a small bag and recyclables, I figure if that want to fine me....
One if the things that spurred me to pose this question was about a week ago I took my LC trayback with half a load of junk to the local tip and when I got there I realised that I had forgotten my tip pass . I thought no problem I will just pay for entry this time ............... that'll be $65 plese sir ..... sorry , I dont think so .
So I wonder how many tips have a similar charging regime for non locals , thinking ahead to our upcoming life style change .
Desert Dweller said
03:56 PM Jan 11, 2016
Our vans spare wheel is carried at the rear. We bought a Ridge Rider 4x4 spare wheel rubbish container (Supercheap Auto)which hangs on the spare wheel. We put our rubbish (shopping) bags in it when we're bush camping. It holds about one week plus of rubbish. We empty it into bins when we stay at a CP for one night while in a town.
NeilandRaine said
04:35 PM Jan 11, 2016
It is something we don't do anymore because we don't have to many fires. However, back in my military days when we went bush we had a rule. Burn Bash and Bury. Not sure if this would still apply.
Peter_n_Margaret said
05:43 PM Jan 11, 2016
When we do our periodic shopping, we take our purchase back to the MH and transfer everything to plastic containers that fit in the places reserved for them and to reduce weight.
We then return all the original packaging to the bins provided by the supermarket that sold it.
It is their responsibility to accept it all back.
That takes care of 90% of the rubbish, then and there.
We then have a couple of vinyl bags on the spare wheels at the back and we hold anything else there until an appropriate dump is available.
Cheers,
Peter
jules47 said
06:22 PM Jan 11, 2016
We have no problem with rubbish disposal - when the rubbish bag (supermarket shopping bag) is full, I look for a relatively empty roadside bin to dump it in, or I put them into a large garbage bag, and carry that till we can dispose of it. No problems.
elliemike said
06:55 PM Jan 11, 2016
Never have a thought about NOT carrying our own rubbish out, till it can safely be disposed of in a Bin or refuse collection Skip.
I get a bit dismayed at the rubbish thrown into camp fires and left there. All that plastic, cans, Bottles, bottle tops, left in the ash. This is still litter that is left behind to pollute the camp area, and bad camping etiquette.
Dhutime said
11:53 PM Jan 11, 2016
We often use plastic bags of some description and store rubbish on our (extended) a-frame or under the spare tyre where we have a heavy duty mesh tray.
BUT sometimes the crows or possums or other little critters find the bags irresistible and leave a mess for me to clean up so thinking of investing in some sort of sealed box or something still thinking what would work .
Bruce and Bev said
09:21 AM Jan 12, 2016
we wait till we get into a town and dispose of our rubbish in the street bins - we look for the larger wheelie bins. We probably only end up with about 7 supermarket bags which are about quarter full each week (I don't usually drink beer, so don't have lots of bottles or cans).
What does annoy me is Main Roads, WA, Southern Region. They cover the area from around Kalgoorlie south. Usually the bins they provide at rest areas are overflowing and with the lids tipped back, the wind and crows have a field day. Particularly bad on the Kal to Perth road and the Eyrie H/Way - both major tourist routes.
Yet the Main Roads region that does the north seems to be a bit more focused on rubbish and on our trips north, the bins are never overflowing - nor are their toilets filthy, unlike the southern region. On the Eyrie H/W that same govt dept is spending $1000's in erecting large signs asking us to keep the country rubbish free when they are the biggest offenders !!!
madcart said
09:26 AM Jan 12, 2016
we always take our rubbish with us untill we can depose of it properly, as well as clean up the site from other people to lazy to walk to bins that are provided. Our resoning is if the rubbish is left behind for the animals to tear open soon those free camps or spots will be closed and then everyone will be up in arms. Just common sense realy
aussie_paul said
09:52 AM Jan 12, 2016
madcart wrote:
we always take our rubbish with us untill we can depose of it properly, as well as clean up the site from other people to lazy to walk to bins that are provided. Our resoning is if the rubbish is left behind for the animals to tear open soon those free camps or spots will be closed and then everyone will be up in arms. Just common sense realy
So true madcart..
Aussie Paul.
elliemike said
10:48 AM Jan 12, 2016
Bruce and Bev wrote:
we wait till we get into a town and dispose of our rubbish in the street bins - we look for the larger wheelie bins. We probably only end up with about 7 supermarket bags which are about quarter full each week (I don't usually drink beer, so don't have lots of bottles or cans).
What does annoy me is Main Roads, WA, Southern Region. They cover the area from around Kalgoorlie south. Usually the bins they provide at rest areas are overflowing and with the lids tipped back, the wind and crows have a field day. Particularly bad on the Kal to Perth road and the Eyrie H/Way - both major tourist routes.
Yet the Main Roads region that does the north seems to be a bit more focused on rubbish and on our trips north, the bins are never overflowing - nor are their toilets filthy, unlike the southern region. On the Eyrie H/W that same govt dept is spending $1000's in erecting large signs asking us to keep the country rubbish free when they are the biggest offenders !!!
If the Bin is full I would carry the rubbish with us till you find one a bit less full. We have never found it that hard.
On the other hand we dont (try not to) generate that much rubbish that it becomes a problem for us to carry. I would not blame the authorities for the rubbish. In some National Parks they purposely don't supply Waste disposal points. You bring it with you You take it out with you. Seems to work in a lot of places.
Sarge9 said
11:38 AM Jan 12, 2016
Interesting conundrum this rubbish disposal:- at home we pay rates which include rubbish, some areas have tip tickets or you pay through then nose like Swoffer did (me too as it happens). But out on the lam, we want to dump it for nothing... same rubbish same people....
I am like the rest of you, I find a bin in due course. But carting a weeks rubbish into the next caravan park does not seem quite fair, and using the council bin at a wayside stop or street corner is a bit the same.... just saying. Cretins and ferals usually use the Salvos or Vinnies bins and front doors...
No solution.... just sayin'
Sarge
The Doo crew said
08:01 PM Jan 12, 2016
We carry the little rubbish we generate in our spare wheel bag, most times its just shopping bag size so we drop it the bin at the servo after filling up with fuel.
brickies said
05:40 PM Jan 13, 2016
I think it's amazing that people think they are good taking care of there own rubbish .
RosieW said
10:34 AM Jan 14, 2016
If we are stopped (like now) we use the park/showground bins. Otherwise, we stop in town post-supermarket, toss packaging into supermarket skips, and then store rubbish til we get back into town or pass a tip.
And if we do a 'sort & toss' we make damn sure we know where the nearest tip is...........
hako said
02:38 PM Jan 14, 2016
brickies wrote:
I think it's amazing that people think they are good taking care of there own rubbish .
Spot on there brickies.....when I take the grandkids to the park or shops I've got them trained to pick up 'clean' rubbish and put it in the bin and similarly in supermarkets where people just step over grocery items carelessly dropped on the ground. They have also been complimented by strangers when doing this so it sure pays dividends if you do just that little bit more.
Just wondering what everyone's opinion is on rubbish disposal specifically for long term GNs ?
Ive done plenty of short term camping (1 to 4 weeks sort of thing) and rubbish disposal has not been a problem . Its either been disposing of small amounts of rubbish in camp ground/CP provided bins or simply save it up and take it home for disposal. As we are soon to become full time nomads and will be doing predominately free camping the take home option is not there . I was reading an article recently that bemoaned the disposal of rubbish by long term campers in places like roadside bins , skip bins owned by others etc. I can understand this , clearly long term campers will have more to dispose of and it would be unfair to others if I was to fill a roadside bin, for instance , with a weeks worth of rubbish.
Clearly rubbish responses to this thread are ok
Cheers Al
Others as in East boat ramp in Echuca, have one very large skip at the moment which is full to over flowing, but mainly from locals household rubbish as in sofas, mattresses, picture frames etc. Should be used for the campers looking for somewhere to dump.
Then there are normal rubbish bins either in campsites or road side stops, only leave rubbish there if there is room in the bins. No point leaving a black bag full on the ground beside bin for the crows to attack and spread around the area.
One if the things that spurred me to pose this question was about a week ago I took my LC trayback with half a load of junk to the local tip and when I got there I realised that I had forgotten my tip pass . I thought no problem I will just pay for entry this time ............... that'll be $65 plese sir ..... sorry , I dont think so .
So I wonder how many tips have a similar charging regime for non locals , thinking ahead to our upcoming life style change .
We then return all the original packaging to the bins provided by the supermarket that sold it.
It is their responsibility to accept it all back.
That takes care of 90% of the rubbish, then and there.
We then have a couple of vinyl bags on the spare wheels at the back and we hold anything else there until an appropriate dump is available.
Cheers,
Peter
Never have a thought about NOT carrying our own rubbish out, till it can safely be disposed of in a Bin or refuse collection Skip.
I get a bit dismayed at the rubbish thrown into camp fires and left there. All that plastic, cans, Bottles, bottle tops, left in the ash. This is still litter that is left behind to pollute the camp area, and bad camping etiquette.
BUT sometimes the crows or possums or other little critters find the bags irresistible and leave a mess for me to clean up so thinking of investing in some sort of sealed box or something still thinking what would work .
What does annoy me is Main Roads, WA, Southern Region. They cover the area from around Kalgoorlie south. Usually the bins they provide at rest areas are overflowing and with the lids tipped back, the wind and crows have a field day. Particularly bad on the Kal to Perth road and the Eyrie H/Way - both major tourist routes.
Yet the Main Roads region that does the north seems to be a bit more focused on rubbish and on our trips north, the bins are never overflowing - nor are their toilets filthy, unlike the southern region. On the Eyrie H/W that same govt dept is spending $1000's in erecting large signs asking us to keep the country rubbish free when they are the biggest offenders !!!
we always take our rubbish with us untill we can depose of it properly, as well as clean up the site from other people to lazy to walk to bins that are provided. Our resoning is if the rubbish is left behind for the animals to tear open soon those free camps or spots will be closed and then everyone will be up in arms. Just common sense realy
So true madcart..
Aussie Paul.
If the Bin is full I would carry the rubbish with us till you find one a bit less full. We have never found it that hard.
On the other hand we dont (try not to) generate that much rubbish that it becomes a problem for us to carry. I would not blame the authorities for the rubbish. In some National Parks they purposely don't supply Waste disposal points. You bring it with you You take it out with you. Seems to work in a lot of places.
Interesting conundrum this rubbish disposal:- at home we pay rates which include rubbish, some areas have tip tickets or you pay through then nose like Swoffer did (me too as it happens). But out on the lam, we want to dump it for nothing... same rubbish same people....
I am like the rest of you, I find a bin in due course. But carting a weeks rubbish into the next caravan park does not seem quite fair, and using the council bin at a wayside stop or street corner is a bit the same.... just saying. Cretins and ferals usually use the Salvos or Vinnies bins and front doors...
No solution.... just sayin'
Sarge
And if we do a 'sort & toss' we make damn sure we know where the nearest tip is...........
Spot on there brickies.....when I take the grandkids to the park or shops I've got them trained to pick up 'clean' rubbish and put it in the bin and similarly in supermarkets where people just step over grocery items carelessly dropped on the ground. They have also been complimented by strangers when doing this so it sure pays dividends if you do just that little bit more.
Regards.