Interesting product, do you know if it will adhere to silicone sealer, a lot of vans have copiuos amounts on the roof. I have had a good look on their website
Graham.... Thanks for putting up this thread.
I like you want a way to enjoy the outback in Summer when we bush camp.
I have noteed somewhere else where a comment was made, " that the roof paint could be seeen by a buyer as a cover up for water leakage."
@Would love to own a 12 volt Air Cond. But I don't think that one exists.
Marvellous ... we have a diesel heater for winter, so why has nobody invent something similar for the summer, is my Q.
I will watch you thread with interest.
Jay&Dee
the rocket said
09:07 AM Nov 17, 2015
Hello and welcome.
will watch this interesting thread. Rocket n strop
erad said
10:52 AM Nov 17, 2015
ABout 60 years ago, my father built his own caravan. No aircons in those days... We were living in the van for about a year whilst he built our house, and he made up a frame of electrical conduit and mounted a tarp over the roof of the van. This made the van a lot cooler from direct sun, but naturally didn't cool the van from the 40 Deg C days we had at the time. You can buy aluminised tarps these days which would reflect the sun from the van roof and make things more comfortable.
As for 12 V aircons, forget it. Even if you could find one, the power draw is staggering. Depending on where you go, evaporative aircon is a very good choice, but you have to have air being drawn into the van over the evap unit and then being exhausted - a one pass system - otherwise yuo will get a lot of mould built up inside the van.
-- Edited by erad on Tuesday 17th of November 2015 10:53:22 AM
jules47 said
04:17 PM Nov 17, 2015
We have aircon, but as we freecamp a lot, it doesn't get a lot of use. However, we have two 12volt fans - Caframo by Sirroco - best 12v fans ever - use minimal power on low speed, which is what we use, has three speeds, and a timer for 2,4,6 or 8 hours, great for night time, set it on 2 hours, turns itself off.
W know a lot of people with these fans, and all are happy with them.
Key Benefits & Features:
The 807 Sirocco 12 Volt fan is features a unique gimbaled design that allows airflow to be directed in any direction of the cabin - 360° and can be folded flat and out of the way against the bulkhead when not in use.
The fan has multiple speeds, timer settings and quiet operation which makes it a good choice for comfortable cabins and salons.
Features
Unique gimbaled design
Three speed push button control
Ultra quiet, long-life motor
Four preset timer settings (2, 4, 6 or 8 hours)
Low power draw
Two mounting options: self adhesive or permanent fixture
Stylish design
Specifications
Current Draw: 0.4 amps (high speed)
Dimensions: 10"(W) x 12"(H) x 3"(D)
Colour: White
Related product information: Please see below a list of related products for the Caframo 807 Sirocco Fan White - 12 Volt;
-- Edited by jules47 on Tuesday 17th of November 2015 04:21:17 PM
Yuglamron said
04:43 PM Nov 17, 2015
Check out this stuff.
Not cheap but with a Ten Year warranty and the stuff does work. I have a friend who used it on his 40' converted bus. He reckons it does work and looks good too.
This link is to a 24 Volt aircon. Can be retro fitted and I haven't time to check current draw or consumption. Not too difficult to wire some 12 volt batteries for 24 Volt output. Depends on your own power supply if it would be worth looking at.
No doubt there are exaggerated claims made by the manufacturers. However my experience of them comes from talking to a user of Thermoshield. He had a 50s aluminium van that he was renovating. I saw it at a roadhouse, still with the plywood lining removed The owner had painted only the roof. When you touched the inside surfaces the roof was certainly much cooler than the wall on the sunny side. The paint does have a significant effect and is probably worth the effort of applying.
El Gringo said
09:20 PM Nov 18, 2015
Being a painter by trade I was very sceptical that it would be worth while, but decided to give it a try.
I used 20L of Barrier Shield on my bus (36 foot) roof and top coated it with another 20l of Weathershield Gloss.
My verdict is that it does work, quite well in fact.
The paint has micro balls of silica in the mix and applied liberally ( I used an airless spray gun) it does work.
The reason for the top coat is that the Barrier Shield goes yellow and also tends to streak off the roof and down the sides of the vehicle.
I got the Barrier Shield from Inspirations Paint, but many paint shops have it.
It's cheaper than Thermo Shield and just as good.
Cheers.
Sharke said
09:26 PM Nov 18, 2015
I have tested the infracote by using 2 sheets of colourbond roofing 0ne recoated with white infracote . i placed the sheets side by side on 2 trestles in the midday sun. After 3 hours i could feel a difference in temperature of the top of the 2 sheets by touching and also a greater difference on the underside. The infracote was lower temp.
Cheers
Jeff
Aus-Kiwi said
02:31 AM Nov 22, 2015
Is it easier to fit a double roof or permanent lightweight shade ?
I see most late model taxi's in Asia with screening on roof ..
Like its cut ff the same model and fitted 120mm above roof..
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Hello to everyone.
We are new to this site and looking forward to reading all the great topics.
We have a big Q! We are purchasing a new van for our big adventure, we are not having airconditioning installed as we will be mostly bush camping.
My Q is does anyone know of a product which we can paint on the roof of our van, as added protection and added insulation.
I seen an add for a product called Barrier Shield but cannot make contact and cannot find any info.
Anyone's ideas, suggestions or help in any way would be very much appreciated.
This is a first for us so hoping at all goes through ok.
Cheers;
Graham
Sunshine Coast QLD
Hi Graham
First of all welcome to this site,ask as many questions as you like.
It's the only way to learn more,I still do and I'm not ashamed to say so
coming back to your question I'm not really the man to answer that one
I'm sure someone will give you the fore and against it
Cheers John
cheers
Jeff
www.scientificamerican.com/article/benefits-of-insulating-paint/
I like you want a way to enjoy the outback in Summer when we bush camp.
I have noteed somewhere else where a comment was made, " that the roof paint could be seeen by a buyer as a cover up for water leakage."
@Would love to own a 12 volt Air Cond. But I don't think that one exists.
Marvellous ... we have a diesel heater for winter, so why has nobody invent something similar for the summer, is my Q.
I will watch you thread with interest.
Jay&Dee
Hello and welcome.
will watch this interesting thread. Rocket n strop
ABout 60 years ago, my father built his own caravan. No aircons in those days... We were living in the van for about a year whilst he built our house, and he made up a frame of electrical conduit and mounted a tarp over the roof of the van. This made the van a lot cooler from direct sun, but naturally didn't cool the van from the 40 Deg C days we had at the time. You can buy aluminised tarps these days which would reflect the sun from the van roof and make things more comfortable.
As for 12 V aircons, forget it. Even if you could find one, the power draw is staggering. Depending on where you go, evaporative aircon is a very good choice, but you have to have air being drawn into the van over the evap unit and then being exhausted - a one pass system - otherwise yuo will get a lot of mould built up inside the van.
-- Edited by erad on Tuesday 17th of November 2015 10:53:22 AM
We have aircon, but as we freecamp a lot, it doesn't get a lot of use. However, we have two 12volt fans - Caframo by Sirroco - best 12v fans ever - use minimal power on low speed, which is what we use, has three speeds, and a timer for 2,4,6 or 8 hours, great for night time, set it on 2 hours, turns itself off.
W know a lot of people with these fans, and all are happy with them.
The fan has multiple speeds, timer settings and quiet operation which makes it a good choice for comfortable cabins and salons.
Features
Specifications
Please see below a list of related products for the Caframo 807 Sirocco Fan White - 12 Volt;
-- Edited by jules47 on Tuesday 17th of November 2015 04:21:17 PM
Check out this stuff.
Not cheap but with a Ten Year warranty and the stuff does work. I have a friend who used it on his 40' converted bus. He reckons it does work and looks good too.
http://www.thermoshield.com.au/
This link is to a 24 Volt aircon. Can be retro fitted and I haven't time to check current draw or consumption. Not too difficult to wire some 12 volt batteries for 24 Volt output. Depends on your own power supply if it would be worth looking at.
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/12v-24v-48-air-conditioner-for-cabin-of-truck-sleeper-mining-machine-grab-excavator/470721425.html
If you want to use the A/C get a Generator
Stay Cool
Cheers
Vince
Wise words Vince.
Aussie Paul.
No doubt there are exaggerated claims made by the manufacturers. However my experience of them comes from talking to a user of Thermoshield. He had a 50s aluminium van that he was renovating. I saw it at a roadhouse, still with the plywood lining removed The owner had painted only the roof. When you touched the inside surfaces the roof was certainly much cooler than the wall on the sunny side. The paint does have a significant effect and is probably worth the effort of applying.
I used 20L of Barrier Shield on my bus (36 foot) roof and top coated it with another 20l of Weathershield Gloss.
My verdict is that it does work, quite well in fact.
The paint has micro balls of silica in the mix and applied liberally ( I used an airless spray gun) it does work.
The reason for the top coat is that the Barrier Shield goes yellow and also tends to streak off the roof and down the sides of the vehicle.
I got the Barrier Shield from Inspirations Paint, but many paint shops have it.
It's cheaper than Thermo Shield and just as good.
Cheers.
Cheers
Jeff
I see most late model taxi's in Asia with screening on roof ..
Like its cut ff the same model and fitted 120mm above roof..