I live on a battle axed block with access via a common driveway. On the deeds of my land there a rule that says you can't back out onto the common driveway.
03_Troopy said
10:13 AM Oct 22, 2015
grahamg wrote:
I live on a battle axed block with access via a common driveway. On the deeds of my land there a rule that says you can't back out onto the common driveway.
It would be interesting to see how enforceable that is. Although the common driveway would be on private land anyway.
Cadpete said
11:21 AM Oct 22, 2015
I work in Town Planning and many new lots are required to have forward entry AND egress when on main roads. This means that the owner is required to be able to turn their vehicle round within their block, usually by '3 point' style turnings. I have however wondered how enforcable this is in law. Like many things in planning it all starts with good intentions ....
Bruce and Bev said
12:30 PM Oct 22, 2015
another nanny state rule. No doubt the intention was meant to stop people reversing out into oncoming traffic, but what about when youre in a busy city street and reverse into a parallel car park - youre always reversing towards on-coming traffic who either (hopefully) stop to let you complete the parking or swerve out in front of traffic in the other lane rather than stop. This equally applies when you are required to reverse park into angle parking (very common in NSW towns).
Block sizes are getting smaller and smaller - in WA the Govt has just approved yet smaller blocks and there is no way you could turn around to drive out, as opposed to reversing out. This has been the case for years since "cottage" (aka small) blocks were allowed. Some estates are mainly these cottage block houses and the driveway is so short, that if you parked in it, the rear of your car (unless its a hatchback) will hang out onto the roadway or footpath.
But I guess all these poorly thought out rules keep our govt employees in work........
grahamg said
03:50 PM Oct 22, 2015
yes it is a planning rule to ensure that adequate land is available to provide a turning area. Once thru the planning stage is it ever enforced?
-- Edited by grahamg on Thursday 22nd of October 2015 03:51:17 PM
Joe50 said
12:42 AM Oct 23, 2015
Bruce and Bev wrote:
another nanny state rule. No doubt the intention was meant to stop people reversing out into oncoming traffic, but what about when youre in a busy city street and reverse into a parallel car park - youre always reversing towards on-coming traffic who either (hopefully) stop to let you complete the parking or swerve out in front of traffic in the other lane rather than stop. This equally applies when you are required to reverse park into angle parking (very common in NSW towns).
I'd much rather reverse into an angle parking spot, at least you can see what's coming from behind as you back it in. Here in Yeppoon it's nose-in angle parking on the main shopping street, and having to reverse virtually blind into traffic because a truck or behemoth 4WD has parked alongside gives me the heebie jeebies. I usually parallel park in a side street and walk back to where I'm going. Same thing with shopping centre car parks - I always reverse in to a parking spot.
Joe
Bruce and Bev said
07:39 PM Oct 23, 2015
Hi Joe. And how about many shopping centres and councils making the car parks only suitable to fit a 2 door hatchback into so they can have more shops and less total space needed for the mandatory (per shopping square metre) required.
We often struggle to get out of our vehicle when in these tiny spaces and usually I will park in a remote spot to hopefully prevent those parking beside you from door dinging the side of your vehicle.
I drive a DMax which is roughly the same length as most other 4 door utes and we usually end up hanging way out into the driving area in shopping centre car parks. No doubt the Patrols and L/Cruisers have similar problems.
In respect of Grahams comment about planning rules requiring turning space, this obviously does not apply in WA. None of the cottage block (usually 500 sq m or less) will even take a car in the driveway without hanging out over the footpath or roadway and there is no provision with many of them to parallel park across the Councils required native plants only gardens which are planted at the front of the house. From what little I saw in VIC in the newer areas, there didn't seem to be handkerchief blocks with tiny driveways (and garages that will only fit a hatchback in it) as WA does, but no doubt they exist.
Question (Road rules)
Can you reverse a vehicle out of a driveway on either public or private property????
Gday...
The Victorian situation -
http://www.racv.com.au/wps/wcm/connect/royalauto/home/motoring/information-advice/road-safety/whats-the-road-rule-august-2014
Cheers - John
spot on john ill try again
It would be interesting to see how enforceable that is. Although the common driveway would be on private land anyway.
I work in Town Planning and many new lots are required to have forward entry AND egress when on main roads. This means that the owner is required to be able to turn their vehicle round within their block, usually by '3 point' style turnings. I have however wondered how enforcable this is in law. Like many things in planning it all starts with good intentions ....
Block sizes are getting smaller and smaller - in WA the Govt has just approved yet smaller blocks and there is no way you could turn around to drive out, as opposed to reversing out. This has been the case for years since "cottage" (aka small) blocks were allowed. Some estates are mainly these cottage block houses and the driveway is so short, that if you parked in it, the rear of your car (unless its a hatchback) will hang out onto the roadway or footpath.
But I guess all these poorly thought out rules keep our govt employees in work........
yes it is a planning rule to ensure that adequate land is available to provide a turning area. Once thru the planning stage is it ever enforced?
-- Edited by grahamg on Thursday 22nd of October 2015 03:51:17 PM
I'd much rather reverse into an angle parking spot, at least you can see what's coming from behind as you back it in. Here in Yeppoon it's nose-in angle parking on the main shopping street, and having to reverse virtually blind into traffic because a truck or behemoth 4WD has parked alongside gives me the heebie jeebies. I usually parallel park in a side street and walk back to where I'm going. Same thing with shopping centre car parks - I always reverse in to a parking spot.
Joe
We often struggle to get out of our vehicle when in these tiny spaces and usually I will park in a remote spot to hopefully prevent those parking beside you from door dinging the side of your vehicle.
I drive a DMax which is roughly the same length as most other 4 door utes and we usually end up hanging way out into the driving area in shopping centre car parks. No doubt the Patrols and L/Cruisers have similar problems.
In respect of Grahams comment about planning rules requiring turning space, this obviously does not apply in WA. None of the cottage block (usually 500 sq m or less) will even take a car in the driveway without hanging out over the footpath or roadway and there is no provision with many of them to parallel park across the Councils required native plants only gardens which are planted at the front of the house. From what little I saw in VIC in the newer areas, there didn't seem to be handkerchief blocks with tiny driveways (and garages that will only fit a hatchback in it) as WA does, but no doubt they exist.