Just heard on the radio [WA] that there is to be a trial of new, larger road trains [60m] carrying Iron Ore into Port Headland. these are 6.5m longer than any at the moment they will be restricted to 95kph. It is a three month trail, but at the cost of these you can bet it will be permanent. Where normal trailers have two point swivel between, these will only have one swivel point.
PeterH
kiwijims said
02:03 PM Oct 8, 2015
Well. at 60m long it will make people, maybe think twice, before overtaking one of those babies.
K.J.
Cruising Cruze said
02:19 PM Oct 8, 2015
Nothing wrong with driving 95kph
This week some fool with a Jeep overtook us at with at least 120 kph with a 3 axle caravan on the highway
Bruce and Bev said
02:25 PM Oct 8, 2015
yeah - but you can guarantee they wont hesitate to overtake you Jim ! And while most of these drivers are very skilled and know the roads they use 2-3 times every day, not all do.
We nearly got taken out by a road train on the Nullaboor. He overtook us where visibility was actually limited, got about half way past our van and was obviously fully loaded and didn't have the grunt to go faster. Suddenly he and I see an RV heading towards us. The truckie still thought he could get past, but it was obvious he lacked the power to increase his speed. It was necessary for me to increase my speed and force him to drop back behind me. He sat there till we got onto a long straight and passed me successfully this time, but it was a slow process. I was doing 110 and I reckon he couldn't get much past 115kmph. Once he got past he just called me on Ch40 and thanked me.
BTW I have driven road trains and knew what I was doing. Slowing down on his first overtake was not an option. He was obviously inexperienced or not familiar with his rig
rockylizard said
03:11 PM Oct 8, 2015
Bruce and Bev wrote:
yeah - but you can guarantee they wont hesitate to overtake you Jim ! And while most of these drivers are very skilled and know the roads they use 2-3 times every day, not all do.
We nearly got taken out by a road train on the Nullaboor. He overtook us where visibility was actually limited, got about half way past our van and was obviously fully loaded and didn't have the grunt to go faster. Suddenly he and I see an RV heading towards us. The truckie still thought he could get past, but it was obvious he lacked the power to increase his speed. It was necessary for me to increase my speed and force him to drop back behind me. He sat there till we got onto a long straight and passed me successfully this time, but it was a slow process. I was doing 110 and I reckon he couldn't get much past 115kmph. Once he got past he just called me on Ch40 and thanked me.
BTW I have driven road trains and knew what I was doing. Slowing down on his first overtake was not an option. He was obviously inexperienced or not familiar with his rig
Gday...
cheers - John
kiwijims said
03:55 PM Oct 8, 2015
rockylizard wrote:
Bruce and Bev wrote:
yeah - but you can guarantee they wont hesitate to overtake you Jim ! And while most of these drivers are very skilled and know the roads they use 2-3 times every day, not all do.
We nearly got taken out by a road train on the Nullaboor. He overtook us where visibility was actually limited, got about half way past our van and was obviously fully loaded and didn't have the grunt to go faster. Suddenly he and I see an RV heading towards us. The truckie still thought he could get past, but it was obvious he lacked the power to increase his speed. It was necessary for me to increase my speed and force him to drop back behind me. He sat there till we got onto a long straight and passed me successfully this time, but it was a slow process. I was doing 110 and I reckon he couldn't get much past 115kmph. Once he got past he just called me on Ch40 and thanked me.
BTW I have driven road trains and knew what I was doing. Slowing down on his first overtake was not an option. He was obviously inexperienced or not familiar with his rig
Gday...
cheers - John
Could you please explain, why it was necessary for you to increase your speed Bruce ?
To my way of thinking, I would have backed off and let that semi get back on the right side of the road, before he had a head-on , or he decided to come back regardless of your position which has happened to me before today.!!
K.J.
Mutt said
04:28 PM Oct 8, 2015
ut it was a slow process. I was doing 110
Thought the speed limit in WA for any vehicle towing is 100ks
WobblyNut said
04:37 PM Oct 8, 2015
KJ . I reckon John did the "best" thing .
at least it Was Desisive.
I don't care a fast a truck is going , if they catch up to me . I let them go.
Whatever I am in
pipes said
05:16 PM Oct 8, 2015
If anyone would like an e mail copy of my book, When CO-ORD was King, just e mail me. It's a lot of short stories about the road trains in the 1960's.
It's free, It contains adult themes. It contains course language. It is all true.
Regards.
Pipes. wencoordwasking@gmail.com
Radar said
05:44 PM Oct 8, 2015
A case of 2 wrongs don't make a right.
And honestly how many times have you stuck your nose out to see what coming when you have road speed up to assist you in your over taking excercise only to find a vehicle hidden in the scenery.
Come on, not taking the pxxx out of you. Ralph.
NeilandRaine said
07:02 PM Oct 8, 2015
Got me confused, if a Semi, road train or anything like that goes out to overtake me the first thing I do is back off the speed as soon as he is out. I would of thought it would be easier for me to reduce speed even more than to try to pick up speed. Of course it depends where the truck is when you see something approach.
Woody n Sue said
07:46 PM Oct 8, 2015
Yes I too are struggling with how it was safer to speed up to 115 rather than backing off and letting him pass whether he was right to have tried to pass when he did or not if he chose to move left rather then have a head on (which he most likely would have ) I think I know who would have come off second best just let them go they are working we are not as for whether he was new or a skilled driver is a mute point if he pushed you off the road and were killed, you don't come back to life because you were in the right
Safety first for number 1 back off n let em go
03_Troopy said
07:50 PM Oct 8, 2015
NeilandRaine wrote:
Got me confused, if a Semi, road train or anything like that goes out to overtake me the first thing I do is back off the speed as soon as he is out. I would of thought it would be easier for me to reduce speed even more than to try to pick up speed. Of course it depends where the truck is when you see something approach.
Don't back off as soon as he is out, or you'll leave him no place to go if he changes his mind. Wait till he is well and truly committed to overtaking and the cab is at least level with you before you back off. It's actually much safer to maintain your speed, unless you can see he is struggling, or something looms on the horizon unexpectedly. (and if he is struggling, he shouldn't have attempted to overtake anyway)
Cruising Cruze said
08:38 PM Oct 8, 2015
Have a look at this clip, the second clip is bad language so you are warned
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jud7mxVX7uY
and this one from the truck he overtakes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk9nHsgV39M
Cheers John
-- Edited by Cruising Cruze on Thursday 8th of October 2015 08:48:29 PM
Radar said
03:36 AM Oct 9, 2015
Please Cruise delete your comment its off tropic and has nothing to do with 60 mtre road trains in WA
Totally Dislike. Don't need referring to the dash cam video footage.
Not very professional of the semi driver.
Once again 2 wrongs don't make a right.
I am so glad I am out of that industry. Ralph.
-- Edited by Radar on Friday 9th of October 2015 03:49:36 AM
-- Edited by Radar on Friday 9th of October 2015 08:16:37 AM
dishlicker said
07:46 AM Oct 9, 2015
As a retired truckie the sesemei street (hume) was one lane each way in the old days i decided not to tow a van and went the m/home so this would not happen i still think more education is needed the road system is to complacent and things happen so fast reaction time is low all drive safely and 60 mtres is way to long to even think about getting out and about cheers to you all and keep it safe.
Just heard on the radio [WA] that there is to be a trial of new, larger road trains [60m] carrying Iron Ore into Port Headland. these are 6.5m longer than any at the moment they will be restricted to 95kph. It is a three month trail, but at the cost of these you can bet it will be permanent.
Where normal trailers have two point swivel between, these will only have one swivel point.
PeterH
Well. at 60m long it will make people, maybe think twice, before overtaking one of those babies.
K.J.
Nothing wrong with driving 95kph
This week some fool with a Jeep overtook us at with at least 120 kph with a 3 axle caravan on the highway
We nearly got taken out by a road train on the Nullaboor. He overtook us where visibility was actually limited, got about half way past our van and was obviously fully loaded and didn't have the grunt to go faster. Suddenly he and I see an RV heading towards us. The truckie still thought he could get past, but it was obvious he lacked the power to increase his speed. It was necessary for me to increase my speed and force him to drop back behind me. He sat there till we got onto a long straight and passed me successfully this time, but it was a slow process. I was doing 110 and I reckon he couldn't get much past 115kmph. Once he got past he just called me on Ch40 and thanked me.
BTW I have driven road trains and knew what I was doing. Slowing down on his first overtake was not an option. He was obviously inexperienced or not familiar with his rig
Gday...
cheers - John
Could you please explain, why it was necessary for you to increase your speed Bruce ?
To my way of thinking, I would have backed off and let that semi get back on the right side of the road, before he had a head-on , or he decided to come back regardless of your position which has happened to me before today.!!
K.J.
KJ . I reckon John did the "best" thing .
at least it Was Desisive.
I don't care a fast a truck is going , if they catch up to me . I let them go.
Whatever I am in
It's free, It contains adult themes. It contains course language. It is all true.
Regards.
Pipes. wencoordwasking@gmail.com
A case of 2 wrongs don't make a right.
And honestly how many times have you stuck your nose out to see what coming when you have road speed up to assist you in your over taking excercise only to find a vehicle hidden in the scenery.
Come on, not taking the pxxx out of you. Ralph.
Safety first for number 1 back off n let em go
Don't back off as soon as he is out, or you'll leave him no place to go if he changes his mind. Wait till he is well and truly committed to overtaking and the cab is at least level with you before you back off. It's actually much safer to maintain your speed, unless you can see he is struggling, or something looms on the horizon unexpectedly. (and if he is struggling, he shouldn't have attempted to overtake anyway)
Have a look at this clip, the second clip is bad language so you are warned
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jud7mxVX7uY
and this one from the truck he overtakes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk9nHsgV39M
Cheers John
-- Edited by Cruising Cruze on Thursday 8th of October 2015 08:48:29 PM
Please Cruise delete your comment its off tropic and has nothing to do with 60 mtre road trains in WA
Totally Dislike. Don't need referring to the dash cam video footage.
Not very professional of the semi driver.
Once again 2 wrongs don't make a right.
I am so glad I am out of that industry. Ralph.
-- Edited by Radar on Friday 9th of October 2015 03:49:36 AM
-- Edited by Radar on Friday 9th of October 2015 08:16:37 AM
As a retired truckie the sesemei street (hume) was one lane each way in the old days i decided not to tow a van and went the m/home so this would not happen i still think more education is needed the road system is to complacent and things happen so fast reaction time is low all drive safely and 60 mtres is way to long to even think about getting out and about cheers to you all and keep it safe.